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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:11 pm
by SleepyKrew
shaddowez
(3) - DeasVail, implosion, AGar
ZZZX
(2) - Malakittens, phokdapolees
DeasVail
(2) - shaddowez, BipolarChemist
BipolarChemist
(1) - Aneninen
Not Voting
(3) - ZZZX, notscience, sthar8
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
Day 2 deadline will hit in: (expired on 2014-09-13 13:15:56).
ZZZX is V/LA until the 11th.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:13 pm
by shaddowez
Reads list as promised, later than I planned:
Agar
- Early and consistent town read. He's been pressuring people for explanations and motives, as well as consistent voting patterns. His tunneling of late has been offputting, but it's probably just me since that's his current target.
Anen
- Town read. Had a pretty weak D1, but was mostly a nulltell with a few scummy posts. D2 has been much stronger, with actual reasons and content in his posts.
BPC
- Currently leaning town on BPC, but will go through the slot. Riabi didn't really have enough content to go off of before his replace out, so was a null tell at the time. Oso's entrance was a bit odd, but I can't say I think it was scummy. IMO it would have been much scummier to come in and hammer off the bat, regardless of the flip. He then does get involved, and gives some pretty detailed answers and reasons to his posts. BPC came in with a substantial reads list pretty much off the bat, then some fluff interlaced with some more content.
DV
- Scum McScumfin. Please see my posts at
Post #618 and
Post #644 for my DV reads, and
Post #513 for where I read Elias as scum right after the replace.
implosion
- Scum. Was going to put reasons here, but ended up too long, so will do so in another post.
Mala
- Null. There's been a lot of joking/fluff mixed in with some thought. Not really getting a scum read at all, but not really a town read either.
ns
- Null, leaning scum on the slot, though I want to hear more from ns. I know I'm in the minority for this one, but there was just something about tman's posts I didn't like.
phok
- Null. Had a weird intro with the whole Flames/Tammy bit and has little content to speak of, but nothing that reeks of scumminess to me.
sthar
- Who? I'm leaning town on the slot, only because I started getting a town read on Rack D1. Grandi gave us nothing to speak of, and we've heard nothing of consequence from sthar.
ZZZX
- Leaning scum on the slot. chaos provided very little content, very weak arguments for the content he did provide, and two reads lists that were almost entirely inverse of each other with no reasonings for most of either.
My current scum pool is {DV, implosion, ns, ZZZX}. The first two are my strongest reads, and subsequent posting from the latter two will solidify my stance on those slots.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:16 pm
by shaddowez
D1 was full of almost entirely fluff. The biggest town read I have from implosion on D1 is his interaction with Neil. There was already enough pressure on Neil that this seems to pull a lot of attention for what would be a bus. That being said, his voting pattern with regards to the wagon leaves much to be desired. He votes for Flames in
Post #208, then rages against Neil and unvotes in
Post #318, saying "Although honestly my desire to not unvote is kind of more out of some kind of rage than it is out of thinking his slot is scum". Jumps on again in
Post #333, off again in
Post #398, and on again in 443, where he also says this:
↑ implosion wrote:People keep convincing me he's scum. The weirdest thing about the neil wagon is the sheer fact that I don't hear any loud voices against it. Which means if he's scum, then other scum are keeping quiet/on the sidelines or are bussing pretty strongly. But that's perfectly reasonable.
At the beginning of D2 he builds a case against me, strongly revolving around my vote interaction on the Flames wagon. The
only
vote change I did was due to the replace, which is something I do anytime I have a vote on a slot that replaces (note that I did it for chaos later, and I can point to another game where I've done so if people would like). Hypocrisy much?
He then unvotes me 7 posts later, and then:
↑ implosion wrote:@SK
, you forgot to replace Oso with BPC in the votecount.
Anywho, I'm going to do this just because I feel like it/because Oso was replaced, so why not.
Unvote
VOTE: shaddowez
I'm completely behind on this game and there's no chance in hell that I'm ever going to be in the mood to catch up so if there's anything super interesting to point out to me please do so.
I'm going to keep my DV vote for now, but would have absolutely no problem hopping on an implosion wagon.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:17 pm
by shaddowez
Meant to lead off the previous post by saying it was my detailed read on implosion
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:18 pm
by notscience
ARGH WHY ARENT YOU TOWNREADING ME STHAR
IT MAKES ME ANGRY
amidoinitrite
Can you try to put words to what you didn't like about tman pls shadow
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:24 pm
by notscience
bahahhaha
tammy was so town on page 1
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:34 pm
by notscience
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:38 pm
by notscience
town
tammy mala agar
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:46 pm
by AGar
Gurg.
Arg.
Tomorrow.
(I should probably just say don't expect real posts on Wednesdays going forward. Wednesdays suck.)
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:48 pm
by shaddowez
↑ notscience wrote:
Can you try to put words to what you didn't like about tman pls shadow
This is the best I have:
↑ shaddowez wrote:tman - He seems to be buddying tammy a little bit in the beginning. He defends the Flames/tammy joke argument that Phok was making, and then brings up tammy's insistence she's town. Doesn't provide much content, and then comments in his read regarding tammy that "I mean, I read her as town, but she's not outstandingly so." (Post #228) Breaks down Anen's reads list, and again doesn't provide much in the way of content. He continues to ask questions, and I like Post #344, but then he seems to fade back and not contribute as much. Also noted, he hasn't posted since the flip except to say he'd post more later.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:16 pm
by Malakittens
that's what you love most about me!
my awesome sense of horrible humor ;D
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:17 pm
by Malakittens
ps
you should sheep me on zzzx pls
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:18 pm
by notscience
lemme finish reading
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:20 pm
by Malakittens
no.
jk
go ahead and finish reading <33
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:10 pm
by sthar8
↑ notscience wrote:ARGH WHY ARENT YOU TOWNREADING ME STHAR
IT MAKES ME ANGRY
amidoinitrite
Can you try to put words to what you didn't like about tman pls shadow
what are you talking fool. i have a light townread on tman and a mollie-read on you.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:29 pm
by notscience
↑ sthar8 wrote:**please post like mad until I really believe this.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:53 pm
by sthar8
yeah thats what i said. a mollie-read.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:54 pm
by sthar8
oh i get the joke. my bad.
good job.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:35 pm
by implosion
Hooray, motivation to post.
↑ shaddowez wrote:D1 was full of almost entirely fluff. The biggest town read I have from implosion on D1 is his interaction with Neil. There was already enough pressure on Neil that this seems to pull a lot of attention for what would be a bus. That being said, his voting pattern with regards to the wagon leaves much to be desired. He votes for Flames in
Post #208, then rages against Neil and unvotes in
Post #318, saying "Although honestly my desire to not unvote is kind of more out of some kind of rage than it is out of thinking his slot is scum". Jumps on again in
Post #333, off again in
Post #398, and on again in 443, where he also says this:
↑ implosion wrote:People keep convincing me he's scum. The weirdest thing about the neil wagon is the sheer fact that I don't hear any loud voices against it. Which means if he's scum, then other scum are keeping quiet/on the sidelines or are bussing pretty strongly. But that's perfectly reasonable.
At the beginning of D2 he builds a case against me, strongly revolving around my vote interaction on the Flames wagon. The
only
vote change I did was due to the replace, which is something I do anytime I have a vote on a slot that replaces (note that I did it for chaos later, and I can point to another game where I've done so if people would like). Hypocrisy much?
He then unvotes me 7 posts later, and then:
↑ implosion wrote:@SK
, you forgot to replace Oso with BPC in the votecount.
Anywho, I'm going to do this just because I feel like it/because Oso was replaced, so why not.
Unvote
VOTE: shaddowez
I'm completely behind on this game and there's no chance in hell that I'm ever going to be in the mood to catch up so if there's anything super interesting to point out to me please do so.
I'm going to keep my DV vote for now, but would have absolutely no problem hopping on an implosion wagon.
This is a really disgusting strawman of my case on shadow. I never try to argue that his unvoting Flames due to him being replaced is what makes shadow scummy; I merely mentioned it offhandedly as it was necessary for proper chronology. Accusing me of hypocrisy is patently absurd for two main reasons. One, I didn't accuse shadow of being scum for unvoting at the replacement. Two, I did accuse shadow of doing scummy things in the way that shadow voted, unvoted, and interacted with the wagon, and those are things that I did not myself do. Ergo, calling my case hypocrisy is just pure BS.
It's great that shadow can recount all of the times I voted and unvoted that slot; unfortunately, shadow makes absolutely no attempt to explain why my pattern of voting and unvoting is in any way scummy.
There's also the accusation that most of my d1 was fluff without any justification of most of my d1 being fluff (read: it really wasn't), and without any explanation of why that would be scummy (read: fluffposting isn't scummy).
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:57 pm
by sthar8
yeah not really feeling the shadow wagon.
After reviewing VCA, I feel good about my lynchpool.
let's try this:
VOTE: phok
sleeping on associatives. coming back in the morning
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:01 pm
by DeasVail
↑ Aneninen wrote:Erm... I know that I'm not the sharpest pencil in the box but something is strange.
I thought I was the only one who scumread BPC. And now I've seen that both MalaKitty and Phokdapolees calls him a possible scum. Have I skimmed over something? Or have these scumreads just come out of nowhere?
Oso was a pretty popular scumread!
↑ shaddowez wrote:So you're saying I'm the second best bet for scum, but not scummy, just not town, but you're voting me, not trying to find someone you actually think is scum?
Oh I think you're scum. I have never stopped thinking that you're scum. There is just nothing in particular I can point to in your posts that I think indicates scum. This is not incredibly surprising to me since scum are often quite actively trying not to look scummy. Sometimes they might succeed! However, I have much stronger reasons to think everyone else town (except for maybe ZZZX) than I do for you, so my conclusion at the moment is that you're scum doing a good job of avoiding posting scummy things.
~~
I would very happily go back to ZZZX but I need ZZZX to post. It's important.
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:12 am
by Malakittens
Gah.
The tones of both DV and BPC feel so off. Wow, maybe I'm wrong and just haven't played enough games or talk with them enough, but something is deff up. It's not even them talking to each other.
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:31 am
by phokdapolees
↑ sthar8 wrote:yeah not really feeling the shadow wagon.
After reviewing VCA, I feel good about my lynchpool.
let's try this:
VOTE: phok
sleeping on associatives. coming back in the morning
How am I "sleeping" on them? I'm just pointing out that I think them most likely to be scum based on their interactions.
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:33 am
by SleepyKrew
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by SleepyKrew
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