Mini 1603 - Air Combat Mafia - Game Over

[xRECKONERx]

To continue the fakeness of reck.

You have the good case on Matt, and it was tso case.
Fun fact myko I believe mentioned Matt once with the rest tso.
So fake read.
To his vote on Anatole.
The only pushing of the wagon when I posted was between ESP and Anatole so his comment to me about handing waving a case that is being primary pushed is by esp. Not him or Matt.

1) Yes, I misread, I explained how I misread and how it happened, literally nobody else thinks this is some kind of slip except you.
2) myko mentioned Matt once in a post that was mostly quotes and a couple sentences from myko himself. You're acting like I latched onto Matt's name in a massive wall post.
3) I'm struggling to see how mistyping the name I meant to say means a 'fake read'. I've pointed this out a dozen times and nobody has had an answer.
4) I literally cannot understand what the fuck you're trying to say in this last sentence. I've reread it five times.

[xRECKONERx]

it's still shit shit shit. It's still a terrible terrible terrible way to go on csareo.

"I warned him that I needed a vote justification." is basically the worst bit of those 4 quotes, and I wish wish wish people wouldn't be stupid stupid stupid about logic.

I have no idea what you're doing here. What is shit, who committed the crime, what's a terrible way to go on csareo, are you saying you agree with the posts, and who is being stupid and how are they not using logic?

[farside22]

it's still shit shit shit. It's still a terrible terrible terrible way to go on csareo.

"I warned him that I needed a vote justification." is basically the worst bit of those 4 quotes, and I wish wish wish people wouldn't be stupid stupid stupid about logic.

Oh ew, how did I not see 189?

See what I mean.
Fake ass shit from reck.
That post he praised is fucking crap.

Michael:myko why would you think these fake praises is anything more then scum kiss ass and sucking the shit out of someone's asshole?

*Looks to see reck* reply.
Yea all that will wait till after work.
Not using the word tomorrow because apparently it means day 2 on the planet reck.

[Anatole Kuragin]

I don't know if Csareo's vote on me is any more scummy than Espresso's bullshit "reaction test" into "I think you may be a power role..", "HAHA I WAS WRONG YOU ARE TOTALLY SCUM LOOK AT YOU FLAIL!" after I make one comment about his case being dumb, into completely avoiding my asking him for reads which he said he would post "tomorrow" two days ago.

And reck, your voting with espresso is even dumber than the dumb vote from farside you're referring to. Like, his case is that I have been trying to push every little thing I could, but I didn't even vote him after his horrendous series of "please play the game for me" posts. So how does that even follow?

[Anatole Kuragin]

He predicated his case on a reaction test that didn't even work. I bitched at him for being a waste of space in the game after he offered to replace out in lieu of actually playing. And didn't vote him. That's evidence for me trying to lynch anything at all.

Was threatening to replace out part of the reaction test? Is that the impression you got reck?

[MattP]

don't know if Csareo's vote on me is any more scummy than Espresso's bullshit "reaction test" into "I think you may be a power role..", "HAHA I WAS WRONG YOU ARE TOTALLY SCUM LOOK AT YOU FLAIL!" after I make one comment about his case being dumb, into completely avoiding my asking him for reads which he said he would post "tomorrow" two days ago.

I was JUST thinking about this being the scummiest thing that's happened so far in the game, and then I ran into this thread to recheck it and saw the situation with vizak/reck/farside

Reck is town, but I need to look over some stuff

[mykonian]

Michael:myko why would you think these fake praises is anything more then scum kiss ass and sucking the shit out of someone's asshole?

Initial meta* read mostly. I don't get what is going on with reck, but his play is incoherent. I've seen him as town and as scum and kissing ass is hardly ever the point of either plays. Doesn't fit the person. He keeps appearing in thread randomly, ends up with some impressions then doesn't end up having those backed up properly and disappears again, to do it a little while later again. I have no clue why but at no point is he putting his weight behind anything, which I would expect from reck. But everything he says blows up in his face because he's simply not with his head in the game when he's posting (or whoever has a better reasoning here can introduce it, this is the part that I simply do not get) and as a consequence nothing works and he's being pushed into the defensive before he can get going, which he does on either allignment.

So my read into this is goes mistakes -> defensive -> disappearance -> recycle and I have never seen this before from Reck. The dots do not connect at the mistakes part, it doesn't make sense to me as scum or as town.

So the best thing I have is the feeling of his posts. I don't think he's scum but I sure as hell wished he would get his stuff together. He could be useful.

*disclaimer, this is attempting to apply what I know of recks person rather than actual "he did this last game in town so he's town again" meta.

[mykonian]

it's still shit shit shit. It's still a terrible terrible terrible way to go on csareo.

"I warned him that I needed a vote justification." is basically the worst bit of those 4 quotes, and I wish wish wish people wouldn't be stupid stupid stupid about logic.

I have no idea what you're doing here. What is shit, who committed the crime, what's a terrible way to go on csareo, are you saying you agree with the posts, and who is being stupid and how are they not using logic?

Going on csareo by using the contradiction.

[MattP]

I think think Reck has been incoherent

I also think you're town so I don't really care to argue about it with you

[MattP]

I don't think Reck has been incoherent*

[mykonian]

regarding cesario cases: (matts posts got in between).

which I wish wouldn't be done by 3 people because that more or less means I have to figure out who's the scum between them.

My money is on vezok.

@matt. Wrong word maybe. Does the rest of the post makes sense?

[MattP]

I don't think Reck is super invested in this game, but I don't think he usually is super invested in games.

His tone and thought process (no matter it being mildly to moderately uninvested) is what makes him town. He's invested enough that I can see clarity and a pretty natural direction in where he is going.

I like Vezok's reads. I think Cstareo and Espresso are scummy. I like an espresso lynch, and the only thing that makes me iffy is farside's reaction to the cstareo votes. They are the first thing that made me severely doubt my town read on farside. But at worst, I feel more confident that farside, if scum, would not chainsaw so hard and would more likely be doing this if cstareo was a mislynch and she was looking forward to dismantling the game tomorrow and sending people off on reck / vezok lynches.

I want an espresso lynch today.

UNVOTE

VOTE: Espresso

[MattP]

Espresso is singly scummy, besides everything else going on. I feel very content with an Espresso lynch.

[T S O]

I am not responding to mykonian again.

I have responded to

everything you posted.

[T S O]

Have you ever read an Espresso game, Matt?

[MattP]

Just for associative tells tomorrow:

Farside has never even hinted at her stance on Espresso and has only asked him one or two very uncommitted questions that she never expanded upon afterwards.

Pedit: No, but this isn't an "active lurking" or "never posting content" thing, this is directly related to tone and the only things he's ever tried to be useful about

But why

[Flubbernugget]

I'm still drawing blanks on how myko is trying to get his reads. And he's probably going to scum read me for saying I'm drawing blanks. Like that's the kind of logic I feel like he's trying to push. I don't get it. I almost got it in the beginning of the game but now idk.

And?
Like this is pretty much just posting to post.

What is your view on let's say csa or tso? You have a view on them ?

Its posting to say that if myko keeps going after shallow reads this late in the day he's scum.

Csareo had a permanent VI read from me. I haven't seen him as town but from his play so far I honestly think that the day he gets a scum pm is the day he lurks so hard SSK ends up calling him out in it.

TSO is null/scum. Like normally, "saying this game sucks" or something to that effect as an excuse to half-ass your way through the game is a scum tell to me. But I kinda feel where he's coming from here. I don't see anything juicy to latch onto, and as MattP can tell you, I'm not quite the conversationalist to really put life into the game. Maybe he's the same way?

@TSO. Weird question. I can understand if you don't want to answer it. You go to a party of about 20-30 people, with only 3 of which you know. What do you think you would do in a situation like this?

[T S O]

Get the three I know, meet around 3 more with the previous three. I wouldn't have an interest in meeting the whole party, just a few new people.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Have you ever read an Espresso game, Matt?

I've played with him twice, once as each alignment. He played equally poorly/scummily as both scum and town. What's your point?

[farside22]

I don't think Reck is super invested in this game, but I don't think he usually is super invested in games.

His tone and thought process (no matter it being mildly to moderately uninvested) is what makes him town. He's invested enough that I can see clarity and a pretty natural direction in where he is going.

I like Vezok's reads. I think Cstareo and Espresso are scummy. I like an espresso lynch, and the only thing that makes me iffy is farside's reaction to the cstareo votes. They are the first thing that made me severely doubt my town read on farside. But at worst,

I feel more confident that farside, if scum, would not chainsaw so hard and would more likely be doing this if cstareo was a mislynch and she was looking forward to dismantling the game tomorrow and sending people off on reck / vezok lynches. [/]

I want an espresso lynch today.

UNVOTE

VOTE: Espresso

Can you explain why the bold makes sense to do as scum.
Also why you think this when ki was on you null list

This sounds like your saying I know it's a mislynch and will use it to lynch reck/vezo because of that instead of shitty fake reads and never mind ki being scum read for ever in a day?
You saying you ignore the later for a reason?

Just for associative tells tomorrow:

Farside has never even hinted at her stance on Espresso and has only asked him one or two very uncommitted questions that she never expanded upon afterwards.

Pedit: No, but this isn't an "active lurking" or "never posting content" thing, this is directly related to tone and the only things he's ever tried to be useful about

But why

ESP is null. The fake test rubbed me wrong but what does he gain from pushing this test? His disappearance bothers me.

[Anatole Kuragin]

TSO do you have 0 scum reads?

[MattP]

Can you explain why the bold makes sense to do as scum.
Also why you think this when ki was on you null list

This sounds like your saying I know it's a mislynch and will use it to lynch reck/vezo because of that instead of shitty fake reads and never mind ki being scum read for ever in a day?
You saying you ignore the later for a reason?

Ki was on my null list specifically, as I stated, because having been gone for 5 days made him fall out of my town list since reads fade over time without constant reminding. I thought Ki was town when he was actively engaged in discussion.

I explained in the post why it makes sense for scum to do. And I'm not entertaining the idea as something I legitimately care about / believe at this moment, it simply made me hesitant about who to lynch today in the condition you were scum, and entertaining the idea put me more at ease with lynching espresso over csareo since I highly doubt you as scum would have chainsawed csareo so hard, especially when reck came into the equation. I think it would be much more likely csareo was town were you scum.

[MattP]

Not that I think it's worth the effort trying to put an alignment on you at this moment. You're not on my radar at all for a lynch right now and I think you'll be sorted out by associative tells

[mykonian]

Its posting to say that if myko keeps going after shallow reads this late in the day he's scum.

Your face is shallow.

So I did get that post right. You are backing up your shit vote. Vote parking on

VOTE: myko

Cuz 325 and 350.

is as bad as it gets. Now somehow you put an ultimatum on when I become scum.

vote flubber

[MattP]

I think Flubber is very scummy but I think Espresso is worse