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In post 575, ClearlyClarity wrote:

In post 560, Irrelephant11 wrote:MKM where you at
Insomnia you've seemingly gone quiet too

MKM requested replacement (due to off-site reasons, in case anyone was going to replacement spec).

Like this one. Yeah sure it's okay for her to say it.

But it's a pagetop, and she has no other posts on that page, or the previous one.

Cj prob isnt scum with clarity imo

^Agreed

If CJ is town (not sure he is but I at least kinda feel like the way the PL is treating him is semi-spewing him town),

I'm not lynching skitter/chara/persivul today,

I've decided to townread smile,


Mmmmm I'm just now realizing I'm just gonna need Flavor Leaf and Brown Eyes to play before I can really narrow down who I'm most interested in lynching

Talk to me about your chara read?

I think their play so far is kinda like coalition, kinda like forkbomb which I was following along with
I think their reads on you, me, and fuscosco make sense for town!them
The only reason I can think of to scumread them is their high number of townreads in a game where I don’t know that someone uninformed should have that many townreads, but I somewhat believe Chara is playing in the “kill paranoia, hold to townreads where they’re deserved” way they profess to be using.

Oh I also liked their recent moment re:CJ read

RCE might be scum but also might just be telling the truth when saying “I’m out of sync with this game”

Skitter talk to me about your Smile and tris scumreads
I’m leaning town on both

I’d like if you town cased Smile.

[spoiler-If I towncased smile]

In post 30, Smile wrote:

In post 2, funkybike1 wrote:

Role PMs will be sent shortly. Night 0 begins now; Day 1 will begin after everyone has confirmed and night actions have been taken.

Since I'm sure at least one of you skimmed through the rules: There are two Jailkeepers.

I suggest that the Town try and keep them alive.

[/b]

That seems to imply both JKs are town, no? thoughts?

- March

This was the first time I thought about Smile being town, iirc. I don't think scum so blatantly goes rolefishing (maybe I'm wrong), but also the setup spec is town indicative because
-The mod quote does indeed imply that both jailkeepers are town, SO:
-> in the scenario where one jailkeeper is scum, scum gains nothing, and kinda outs themselves, by starting a discussion on the alignment of the jailkeepers.
-> In the scenario where neither jailkeeper is scum, scum gains nothing, and kinda softconfirms two roles that will probably later claim, by pointing out the way the mod post implies they're both town

Anyway if Smile is scum this post was more helpful to town than scum, so
If Smile is 3P jailkeeper then I guess this post was maybe good for them tho


249-253 is a fine/good progression & conversation on insomnia imo

In post 312, Smile wrote:Anyway lemme make it clear. If I were to choose someone to lynch rn it's insomnia, then CJ.
It's not my fault you misinterpret how I say things and/or manipulated it to make it seem like theres no reads from us or whatever

- March

Towny self-righteousness

In post 339, Smile wrote:Actually now I think about it I don't recall much about a lot of players

um

Skitter
Does RCE ping you somehow
Do you have thoughts on insomnia's spew about his own meta and all that
Reads on Clarity

- March

Based on skitter's 340, I don't think Smile is partners with skitter

In post 341, Smile wrote:You know I somehow thought it was irrelephant who said those things =.=

anyhow I call these questions yelling at people until they spew their alignment *shrug*

- March

Not over-defensive when called out on "busywork"

In post 358, Smile wrote:Why has Baezu not been replaced yet?

-Beauty

Not partners with Fuscezu

In post 388, Smile wrote:the real hot take is I actually like irrelephant a lot for throw out a random ass hot take

- March

This maybe made me more warm and fuzzy than it should have but I thought

In post 394, Smile wrote:If I can put it into words

I guess I don't see the scum motivation for randomly saying this dude is scum and unnecessarily make enemies
because he sure aint doing anything with the hot take

- March

This was a reasonable explanation for liking my post

In post 505, Smile wrote:Percy why did you drop your push on insomnia, when we could have gotten something going
especially when the new vote is shiidaji which fundamentally does nothing

- March

Somewhat towny to follow up on the insomnia scumread and keep another player accountable for pushing an empty slot
Not towny if Shiidaji-slot flips scum tho I guess

In post 508, Smile wrote:

In post 360, funkybike1 wrote:

I've given enough of a grace period for prods. They start now; Shiidaji has been prodded.

VOTE COUNT

7 of 13 votes are required to lynch.

Shiidaji (4):

Chara, tris, Irrelephant11, Persivul

Fuscezu (3):

Smile, Miss Kobayashi Maru, ceejayvinoya

Irrelephant11 (2):

Shiidaji, RCEnigma

Miss Kobayashi Maru (1):

ClearlyClarity

insomnia (1):

insomnia

RCEnigma (1):

skitter30

Not Voting (1):

Fuscezu

Deadline is in (expired on 2019-05-22 12:00:00)

Stagnant game state probably implies top wagons being villagers or something
Or it's just shiidaji and he can't post and his partners don't really bother defending there

either way I think its a good look for fus? idk

- March

Maybe not a good post for smile to suggest that Fuscezu is towny because of the wagon on them..... when Smile is part of that wagon....
Yeah this is actually a red flag in retrospect but not damning on its own

In post 510, Smile wrote:

ceejayvinoya

[line]Chara
ClearlyClarity
Fuscezu[/line]

insomnia

[line]Irrelephant11[/line]
Miss Kobayashi Maru
Persivul
RCEnigma
Shiidaji

skitter30

[line]Smile[/line]

tris

never touching strikethrough names d1
should probably lynch within bolded
underlined is shit thrown at the wall scum for post game ego

- March

Consistent reads from earlier in the game and a fine PoE. Maybe too much consistency, actually. Not sure what to glean alignment-wise from this post now that I think about it.
Still not scum with skitter though
595-605 is not my favorite progression on tris but if the Beauty head is who I think it is, then the fact that I think they're overanalyzing things is somewhat NAI.[/spoiler]

Not the strongest townread, in retrospect. Hm. There's a few flashes of towniness in the ISO that I was holding onto but I'm not sure I actually like the direction of their pushes

@Smile can you explain what caused you to rule out ClearlyClarity and Fuscezu from today's lynch?

Oh no! those bb tags :'(
At least the wall isn't as long as some others

It’s useless to get into wagonomics this early though, that clear sure is interesting. Also, Percy not posting much relevant information / anything that stands out to me like it did in other games is making me putting him back on my scumdar. I usually have a bad habit of rulig out the people that back out from pushing me, I have to look at his progression on me

Percy = Persivul

Flava Leef post content bruv

i'm also thinking i know who March is now. 312 in particular is one i remember liking.

i also like insomnia's last three posts here. i don't remember if i had a read on him before.

I just went back to catch up and saw you asking me if Smile is my strongest scum read, yes.

As for reading RCE I’ve already addressed it, I’ll never be able to read him, I only read him when he gets to like at L-1 and starts raging because of it, his tone can give him away while on the chopping block.

Having stronger players like Skitter and whoever’s left to determine his alignment if they have Meta with him is better as it generates info, if they misrep his meta then they have high scum equity, so I’ll just do that.

i'll admit there's a part of me that's worried i'm simply townreading active posters, but then that just makes me worry about skitter and i think that's really foolish on day 1. if you're town it's on you to show it, is my thinking.

Percy's push on tris is objectively a good push to make, but my experience with tris makes me not want to agree with it. i wish i knew how tris approached scum in a general sense. if anyone has input please let me know.

Although for me right now I have to decide in between Percy and Smile as they’re probably never scum together, the fact that Smile tried to get Percy back on my push is probably scummier than him actually tunneling me and it points to town / scum in between those two

In post 665, insomnia wrote:I just went back to catch up and saw you asking me if Smile is my strongest scum read, yes.

As for reading RCE I’ve already addressed it, I’ll never be able to read him, I only read him when he gets to like at L-1 and starts raging because of it, his tone can give him away while on the chopping block.

Having stronger players like Skitter and whoever’s left to determine his alignment if they have Meta with him is better as it generates info, if they misrep his meta then they have high scum equity, so I’ll just do that.

This isn't accurate meta, it was an outlier solely because Nero and I don't mesh well. AtE should never be the go to.

Well, me, Skitter and tris were in a game where the both of them were scum and I was town, so Skitter should have some insight on tris

Besides smile attempting to pit you and Percy against each other is there anything else you scumread them for?

Tris played exceptionally well and was an easy town read for me in that game, I don’t know if that can be applied the other way around as well, I’d find it weird.

659 from irre is good.

that's what i like to see from him

In post 632, RCEnigma wrote:CC walk me through your read on irrel.

In post 635, tris wrote:@Clarity You haven't said much about most of the players in the game. Could you share some reads?

In post 648, ceejayvinoya wrote:

In post 644, Irrelephant11 wrote:Hi CJ! Ummm talk to me about Clearly Clarity. Shorter ISO: Newbtown or Scum using newbtone for towniness?

As an aside: ngl I'm extremely nervous that Flavor repped in an a very mysterious slot

Generally I don't like voting people by the way they post and I have no idea how to sort real newbtown from faked one so I'm not gonna try.

What I can note is that she comes across to me as sort of awkward. There are more posts from her about setup spec, her awkward entrance, and posts that doesn't advance the game than posts that actually help.

She's below the null line to me.

I'm just not feeling this game. I'm out of my league. I'm reactive rather than proactive here because I don't know where to begin and the best thing I can do is nod along. I think my flaky play here ought to be town-indicative due to how evident it is that I'm acting completely on my own

- Smile
- Chara
- Irrelephant

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- Fuscezu
- skitter
- CJ

Rest are null. Best I can give you for now