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In post 645, Datisi wrote:this game makes my head hurt and i'm lowkey wishing i rolled scum to not have to figure it out

TBH same, rolling scum would make this easier

Two things:
I think I was awake and online when QQ voted for Aldus. There might be no way to conclusively prove this though.

Also yes I agree you don't need walls and PbP to push reads and admittedly that was how I did it before.

I will willingly admit I am beetlejuicing and I do post as a response to when people call my attention. I am at fault for dismissing the other contributions in the game due to preconceived gut tells about everyone, but I do think that these interactions have been solidifying my reads (and I realize this is ironic because I am accusing Ico of just confirming his scum tells rather than reevaluating his town bloc - this I will confirm)

In post 650, DoctorPepper wrote:but I do think that these interactions have been solidifying my reads

what interactions have solidified which reads?

Look, I'm willingly going to admit that I get why I'm being seen as not productive to town but I refuse to be read as scum for things that are at best NAI

I'm willing to work and learn how to play better and see what you guys are seeing that I am not with regards to Ico, Euph and Aldus.

But let's face it, the game state in and of itself is messy to read as it is don't you think?

P-Edit: That I still think you're scum

But maybe I do agree with you on this

VOTE: Quantum

In post 632, DoctorPepper wrote:I mean after a quick glance of your ISO, aside from meta reads you have just had your initial reads, you have been using your line of posting more to convince yourself or this town of your scum reads rather than sorting them

Are you standing behind this statement that i've never had more then my initial reads?

In post 652, DoctorPepper wrote:P-Edit: That I still think you're scum

can you put in a few words *why* you actually scumread me?

In post 653, Iconeum wrote:

In post 632, DoctorPepper wrote:I mean after a quick glance of your ISO, aside from meta reads you have just had your initial reads, you have been using your line of posting more to convince yourself or this town of your scum reads rather than sorting them

Are you standing behind this statement that i've never had more then my initial reads?

I'm saying you say you soften up your scum reads or vary their scumminess but your town block is solid

In post 655, DoctorPepper wrote:I'm saying you say you soften up your scum reads or vary their scumminess but your town block is solid

my initial scumread was you

i moved on to kanna and aldus, then I tried to sort between them

then i moved on to QQ

I townread certain people, that hasn't changed sure

how, the fuck, did my reads not evolve

In post 655, DoctorPepper wrote:I'm saying you say you soften up your scum reads or vary their scumminess but your town block is solid

and this is why you scumread me? because i have townreads that haven't changed and because i have scumreads that evolved?

In post 651, Iconeum wrote:

In post 650, DoctorPepper wrote:but I do think that these interactions have been solidifying my reads

what interactions have solidified which reads?

i want this answered tho

In post 652, DoctorPepper wrote:P-Edit: That I still think you're scum
But maybe I do agree with you on this
VOTE: Quantum

this is totally not creepy

you still think i'm scum
but you agree with me that QQ is scum
so you vote alongside with me on QQ

UNVOTE:
VOTE: drpepper

oh, oh, i have a fun fact!

In post 645, Datisi wrote:

In post 609, OkaPoka wrote:actually since nobody has commented on this yet

are you guys not irked by QQ's l1 post?

i am

when i was typing this part^^, i orginially wrote something like "i am irked by QQ's vote, but i think he's not scum because the game kinda doesn't make sense with him as scum" but i decided to leave the second part out because i saw ico/oka started building a wagon there and i kinda thought "hey maybe if i don't say i'm against it someone will actually jump on it"

and lo and behold now it happened and now i'm like :thonk:

Because I feel like your push on me is quite inorganic and is based on playstyle tells rather than scumtells that you're trying to justify as scumtells. Your engagement with me feels like its a means to confirm your scumtells guised as a means to get answers from me.

And again, gut.

Though, a big town read of mine in Dats is playing like you with regards to me. So either in reading you guys wrong and I should pay better attention, or I'm being very stubborn with my reads with you, thus ironically falling into the same trap I am accusing you of

P-Edit: my scum read on you is the answer to 651.

Yes, it's because you claim your reads to evolve but really you're just switching around your suspects but you keep a pocket for your town reads. At best as a townie you are already conf biasing to incline that they are town and are interacting less with them with the risk of pocketing scum.
At worst, it looks like you're evolving reads but it's artificial, it's just a means to look like they're evolving when only thing that's happening is you're switching the order of scum reads (if that makes any sense)

Datisi it's time for you to show some colour and be a little more straightforward with your view on this game

got any juice?

pepper why are you comortable voting alongside me if you are that sure i'm scum

do you think it's me with QQ?

In post 659, Iconeum wrote:

In post 652, DoctorPepper wrote:P-Edit: That I still think you're scum
But maybe I do agree with you on this
VOTE: Quantum

this is totally not creepy

you still think i'm scum
but you agree with me that QQ is scum
so you vote alongside with me on QQ

UNVOTE:
VOTE: drpepper

Ahh yes because I've completely devolved into associative tells on Day 1 and have not considered the possibility of people I think are scum can be not scum together (i.e. I could be wrong)

And also I'm allowed to vote for other people other than my top scum reads

But I feel like this is going here

VOTE: Iconeum

In post 663, Iconeum wrote:pepper why are you comortable voting alongside me if you are that sure i'm scum

do you think it's me with QQ?

No, I could be wrong about either of you.

One of you could actually be town

But I think you guys could be scum, just not scum together.

Was hoping that if QQ was scum I'd be wrong about you but hey, let's see where this goes

In post 658, Iconeum wrote:

In post 651, Iconeum wrote:

In post 650, DoctorPepper wrote:but I do think that these interactions have been solidifying my reads

what interactions have solidified which reads?

i want this answered tho

having trouble answering this?

In post 661, DoctorPepper wrote:P-Edit: my scum read on you is the answer to 651.

what does this mean?

... I literally did

Our engagement has me thinking you are scum, that read is solidified

But you do raise a valuable point hence I considered my read on dats seeing as you have a similar read as him on me and our interactions are the same. Thus either I could be wrong town reading one and scum reading the other.

Initially this is why I was willing to move to QQ so I could evaluate that bit hey, you're being so insistent I think we won't be proven right or wrong til we see a flip from either of us

In post 669, DoctorPepper wrote:Our engagement has me thinking you are scum, that read is solidified

But you do raise a valuable point hence I considered my read on dats seeing as you have a similar read as him on me and our interactions are the same. Thus either I could be wrong town reading one and scum reading the other.

Initially this is why I was willing to move to QQ so I could evaluate that bit hey, you're being so insistent I think we won't be proven right or wrong til we see a flip from either of us

i have both Oka and Datisi in my townblock, and you are hammering me on it
and in your other hand you also have Oka and datisi as town

but giving me crap about 'not evolving' my townreads

get real or get out

1. I'm saying I want to reevaluate my read because I admit it's weird for me to scum read you and town read dats even if you are functionally the same with your interactions with me
2. I say it's weird that you claim your reads are evolving when you're just switching around the position of scum in your reads

I'm not trying to be dense on purpose but it seems like I'm very easily painted as I am here.

pepper, I think your scumread on me consists of 2 things:

1) I haven't changed my townreads
2) OMGUS for voting and pushing you

is there more to it?

In post 671, DoctorPepper wrote:1. I'm saying I want to reevaluate my read because I admit it's weird for me to scum read you and town read dats even if you are functionally the same with your interactions with me
2. I say it's weird that you claim your reads are evolving when you're just switching around the position of scum in your reads

How have your reads evolved this game?