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popopopopopopo(6) ~ Luna Fox(24), Firebringer(31), Nero Cain(23), NorwegianboyEE(21), Peter Pan(8), profii(15)

Peter Pan(6) ~ Luna Fox(30), Firebringer(47), Zantetsu(45), popopopopopopo(31), Alchemist21(23), Elements(7)

Jake the Wolfie(6) ~ Luna Fox(49), Firebringer(89), Zantetsu(64), popopopopopopo(44), Churros(135), Jake the Wolfie(39)


Some interesting stuff in there.

With popopo on both the other wagons I'm wondering if that suggests scum #2 is trying to make sure that initial wagon doesn't resurface. Going to apply some scrutiny to {Luna/Fire/Zant} - obviously luna and fire will point out they were on the popopo wagon, but if they have some paltry reason for getting off, then that could be an indication of scum imo.

Hmm, nothing interesting happening

[Jake, Peter, Norwe]

There's probably at least one wolf in the above.

Jake, you should claim.

I think Jake kind of almost admitted being scum back there unless he claims miller which would make a lot of sense to that explanation from before I guess.

You could trade peter place with proffi.

[Jake, Peter, Proffi, Norwe]

Now that looks better and I have near certainty there's at least one wolf in the above

There most certainly is someone by the name of Wolfie in there.

Norwe I'm not town reading you.

My original message would be that if Jake isn't wolf I can see you being but I thought that it's too early to settle on a read on you. I'm not going to explain my reasons either at this point...

But yeah...

I did my own survey of Jake the Wolf's meta. He has not been posting much in any games since our game started, and mostly posting in some "mish mash" game that is not a proper mafia game as far as I can tell. So in his defense, not posting in our game is not totally outside of the scope of his recent behavior.

Much more damning to me are two factors:

1. In the completed mafia games he has played, his town games always start with some jovial sh**posting early and he reads as relaxed and ready to have fun. But his scum games start with almost no 'fun' posts and he feels more wooden and procedural.
2. His response to Churros' case is classic caught scum, it's so prototypical caught scum that I almost can't believe it because it's so obvious. He's flailing so heavily with weird nonsensical posts grasping at every straw possible (death mason?!?). Made no attempt whatsoever to 'reset' and re-approach the game with town reads or really anything that would advance a town agenda.

Looking back on his play history it feels very obvious to me that he's a super casual player that likes to play weird games and 'have fun' and that when the game doesn't look like it's going to be fun for him, or is turning out not to be fun, he just doesn't even want to bother, and that is expressed usually by not making a lot of effort. That jives with not posting in this game, then prod dodging, then his first post being a very procedural and honestly non-effort post. After his first post he was defending against Churros and like I said it looks like caught scum from there.

I really can't recall a scum as obvious as this one in any game I have ever played.

I'm Vanilla Town.

Why the hell would my claim make you reconsider?

In post 644, Firebringer wrote:

In post 641, Nero Cain wrote:it's really not

umm yeh it is. Its an artificial L-1. If the person moves their vote its back to L-2. So him saying "claim or I hammer" is fucking out there.

who cares how he got there, its still the townie thing to intent to hammer @ L-1. If you want to argue that its 4 profii (and ele too, i guess) then fine but it's still the correct play here.

In post 660, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 644, Firebringer wrote:

In post 641, Nero Cain wrote:it's really not

umm yeh it is. Its an artificial L-1. If the person moves their vote its back to L-2. So him saying "claim or I hammer" is fucking out there.

who cares how he got there, its still the townie thing to intent to hammer @ L-1. If you want to argue that its

LAMIST

4 profii (and ele too, i guess) then fine but it's still the correct play here.

when Nero cain doesn't read or misses the point.

yea im really not getting your point.

if this gets hammered and locked before I get back.

scum don't night kill me. I have COVID. u might catch it if u go for me.

or IG your pont was "he could retract his self vote so he shouldn't claim." idk

I was saying he wasn't under any real pressure to claim since he could just remove his vote instead of claiming.

In post 659, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I'm Vanilla Town.

Why the hell would my claim make you reconsider?

I don't think it would. I think you know the only thing that could possibly save you. But that would take work, and since I think you already gave up on the game, you're not willing to put in that work.

hey zantetus, I am in a giving mood.
u got any questions I can help u with since I am still a scumread for u

In post 667, Firebringer wrote:hey zantetus, I am in a giving mood.
u got any questions I can help u with since I am still a scumread for u

I'm not scum reading you any more. My paranoia has worn off and you've really looked quite town for some time now. Sorry to disappoint.

Wow, ive been cockteased.

Just a reminder profii you never answered this:

In post 403, Zantetsu wrote:

In post 371, profii wrote:No one has given any serious thought to why wed get 2 wagons to l-1

I'm sad about that

Do you think the wagon velocities in this game says something predominantly about town, predominantly about scum, or equally about both?

In post 670, profii wrote:UNVOTE:

was it the vt claim?

Profii unvoted popopo, not Jake.

oh right