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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:50 am
by Isis
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Not voting (5): Hoctac, Dunnstral, shiki, Pigman, Titus
Lynching deadline:(expired on 2020-06-24 11:59:59)


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The woman stops watching the video when the figures begin conversing, a duller event given the footage's lack of audio.
"They seem to have a special bond," she summarizes, surprisingly clinically. "But I've never had a friendship with quite that type of dynamic, so it seems foreign to me. But I'd say there's about one of you that has." She slowly closes the laptop and pulls it closer in her lap, the heat of the laptop's strain from playing video warming her from the chilly day.
"You're coming close to having enough stones for everyone, I think," the lady mused. "But as there are fewer of you, you might have to get even more creative in how you share your stones. I can't wait to see what you come up with."
She fit her pair of headphones snug around her head and connected it to a wPod, playing classical music as she watched the next developments. What would happen next?

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:56 am
by Hoctac
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Enjoy all 5 of those frames.

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:57 am
by Hoctac
In post 650, Isis wrote:
Lynching deadline: (expired on 2020-06-19 11:59:59)
Assuming this means that we'll be able to lynch after this deadline is up, and the IC will be revealed at the end of it?

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:01 am
by Isis
Sorry, after two 48 hour deadlines in a row I forgot my policy.

It has been corrected, day 3 is a 7 day deadline according to 5 players + 2 additional days

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:08 am
by Hoctac
Ah, I see.

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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:10 am
by Hoctac
In post 648, Isis wrote: (expired on 2020-06-18 15:59:59)
The IC will be revealed at the end of this countdown?

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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:11 am
by Hoctac
In post 645, Isis wrote:
"I want to focus on my godlike qualities!"
Dunnstral announced it to the world, not caring who knows it.
Visions run through his head of joining forces with other powerful gods for a god based team.

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Well, first things first.

Why would you ever pick God over Devil there, Dunny?

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:16 am
by Hoctac
In post 639, shiki wrote:
In post 638, Titus wrote:VOTE: Elements
look i found a town
Agree. This is towny for shiki as well if she was intentionally waiting around deadline to see if anyone would hammer last minute.

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:25 am
by Hoctac
Pigman/Dunny ends the game I reckon. Pigman's "townslip" from Day 1 means a whole lot less if scum were both inactive in scumchat and didn't discuss the implications of throws properly.

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:28 am
by Isis
In post 655, Hoctac wrote:
In post 648, Isis wrote: (expired on 2020-06-18 15:59:59)
The IC will be revealed at the end of this countdown?

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That countdown was a deadline for the mafia to submit a selection. It is no longer relevant.

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:56 am
by Hoctac
Am I lost or confused? When does our IC get revealed to us?

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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:23 am
by Isis
The Innocent Child ability granted last night is an immediate reveal variant, that generates a moderator announcement at the first moment the player has the Innocent Child ability and is town-aligned simultaneously. There is no delay.

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:17 am
by Hoctac
I'm afraid I still don't completely understand. Are you saying it's an ability that the IC can choose to activate at any time to reveal themselves as town?

As far as I can understand, what you've said indicates the IC should've triggered a moderator announcement immediately, since the IC will always simultaneously have the ability and be town-aligned.

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:21 am
by Titus
Not so sure I'd call Shiki town based on their comments. They could easily be scum hoping for an NL and went oh shit when I came back from my Saturday night game group early.

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:42 am
by Hoctac
It's possible. She was quick to call you town after your post, which means it may have been the intention of her waiting. But I suppose she could be scum hoping for a no-lynch, and have that as a premeditated response in case someone came back in time to hammer.

Who do you think is the last scum, Titus?

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:51 am
by Dunnstral
In post 656, Hoctac wrote:
In post 645, Isis wrote:
"I want to focus on my godlike qualities!"
Dunnstral announced it to the world, not caring who knows it.
Visions run through his head of joining forces with other powerful gods for a god based team.

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Well, first things first.

Why would you ever pick God over Devil there, Dunny?
Because it provides 2 clears over 1? Mafia have to ch oose to clear 2 people over Town choosing to clear 1 person. Makes sense to me.

With that said, I'm not sure why nobody is revealed right now. I too must be missing something, I reread the god bonus too

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:53 am
by Dunnstral
The optimal strategy for scum last night would be to night kill Pigman, because then it's the two colors don't match bonus, and it only ends up revealing Titus' alignment because the other fire card is dead

But that didn't happen

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:55 am
by Dunnstral
In post 1, Isis wrote:2 Gods : If there are two living mafia, the mafia immediately strongkills one mafia and one townie. If there is one living mafia, that player public cops two other players.
This is what I'm reading for the power... I don't understand the IC talk, right now it doesn't seem like anything happened?

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:39 pm
by Hoctac
You never checked the NK cheat sheet in any of the VCs?

For example, this one:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11900271

I think Isis forgot to update that initial setup post.

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:05 pm
by Isis
Uck.
There has been sloppy moderation. The version of the setup in post 1 was outdated before gamestart, I'm not sure how it was preserved and made it in there. I had nerfed Gods to one public cop a long time ago.

NK cheat sheet wasn't meant to to have force-of-rules, but I forgot that at some point somehow, so the effect given was that from the cheat sheet, instead of
2
1 public cop.

In the future I will avoid setup summaries, I think it seems too harmful to have any inexact description of the setup floating around.

Two public cops was a typo but not a gamebreaking one, therefore such an error preserved through gamestart should have been treated as canon.

Since it is a situation where the mod error has not reached a severity that locks either side out of winning I'm not going to issue any undos.

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:12 pm
by Isis
Lone scum picks someone to become an IC
This is the bonus that was granted. A living player has the Innocent Child role.

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:17 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 668, Hoctac wrote:You never checked the NK cheat sheet in any of the VCs?
Uh... no.

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:20 pm
by Hoctac
Okay, I'm gonna someone has the IC role and can choose to reveal themselves whenever they want.

Unsure what to think of Dunny's slip. It's certainly town-indicative if genuine, but I don't think I can put
that
much stock in this one being real. I've had a pretty steady trend of townreading townslips this game, so it's very possible scum!Dunny is trying to take advantage of that.

Also, I do find it kind of hard to believe you never opened up the NK cheat sheet and noticed the difference, Dunny.

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:21 pm
by Hoctac
*gonna assume someone has the IC role

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:23 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 661, Isis wrote:
The Innocent Child ability granted last night is an immediate reveal variant, that generates a moderator announcement at the first moment the player has the Innocent Child ability and is town-aligned simultaneously. There is no delay.
This is mod talk for "the mafia gave themselves the innocent child so it does nothing"