In post 568, SirCakez wrote:alright I think scum probably already figured this out and it looks like you're both against me so I'm just gonna drop that I was the Merlin on enomis/BM slot
That's why I kept pushing on BM as soon as he replaced in and why I had enomis in my back SRs the whole game.
I don't get the "scum probably already figured this out" bit. If Hiraki was scum, they'd surely be more inclined to think he was your target.
And you're admitting here your Merlin strategy was poor if you think they'd have figured it out?
I was the first one on BM with my meta argument before other people were paying attention.
I was saying it wasn't nearly subtle enough by saying scum had probably figured it out. But according to you I should have been more obvious? Idk dude.
This is especially stupid
What is the goal of distancing? To push someone you know is scum and avoid associations with them.
What is the goal of Merlin? To push someone you know is scum and avoid associations with them.
So ofc it's gonna look like distancing
Because an aggressive push is going to give it away
I know my "slip" was scummy so I can forgive you SRing me on that. But it's really dumb that you are calling me scummy for not playing a role the way you think it should be played.
Whatever
you've obviously made your mind up (judging by the fact you haven't asked Hiraki about anything once) and are not really listening to me so let's just end this
I don't want to out the other Merlins on the slight chance you change your mind
I don't think their identities would do anything to change your mind anyways
My mind isn't nearly as made up as you think it is, Dessert Merlin, but you're making me feel bad for "dragging this out" as you put it. There are things that point to Blindfolded Merlin, but they're not things that I can ask him about.
TSE voting for Hiraki when he thinks he's going down is actually scum points for Hiraki. Since I remembered that the last time I played with scum!TSE, he started hard bussing as soon as he thought he was going down from the mid of the day up till the end.
Jesus. Are you mad because I'm not playing in your pre-defined structure of how you think I should be? Are you mad because I'm voting you? Look around. If you're not scum, quit acting like it.
This game has been a slog. I don't think too many people really know how to approach it yet. TSE made a dumb strategy post that outed him as scum Day 1. Midari made a post Day 1 to the effect of how many understand the rules/setup. That sounded townie to me at the time, and even though she's kind of scum claimed since then, I think that still may be one of the most honest posts of the game. Other than Hiraki's rant. If you look at that, he pretty much nailed the game dynamic at the time. And his ISO is essentially a mind meld with where I'm at. Now we have cakez scum reading four or five people, penguin saying he's okay lynching Midari but not voting there, and Manatee and candles, I don't really know what they're about. Enomis was honest enough to bail, and like I said before, I don't see scum repping out of a lurk party. Battle Mage, bless him, also honestly said he is having difficulty with the mechanic.
If y'all want to lynch Midari, fine, but I think cakez is the better candidate today.
This resonates with me. SirCakez you're right that this is not how I played in Jigsaw, however:
A. My play in Jigsaw single-handedly screwed up the entire game for the town, so it's hardly a meta I'm trying to re-create.
B. I'm not a complete try-hard in every game as town - my drive generally links to my level of engagement, and confidence in my reads.
I wonder if you're genuinely scumreading me based on that meta, or if you're trying to encourage me to play like I did in Jigsaw? The latter is tantamount to fishing in this game.
That's a little risky if you're both scum. If you get lynched there, BM's in a terrible position because I don't think he could solo from that position.
I will be pretty annoyed if you vote for me considering that SirCakez scumclaimed. I don't need nor want to ask questions - I'm still not sure why this is a debate in your head.
My primary question to Hiraki is why has he spent the entirety of today trying to rush a hammer on me and shut down discussion rather than allow 5C to actually think things through
Oh yeah and also Hiraki has been completely ignoring pretty much all play and game prior to today. His entire reasoning presented has been "obvious scum" and "he slipped". If I hadn't been a dumbass and missed part of my rolecard where would we be here?
In post 113, Hiraki wrote:The only reason I'm not hammering right now is that I want more reads FYI. TSE doesn't even seem to care about the votes on him.
This also looks bad in light of TSE scumflip. Why even make this post? Seems like delaying in hopes of a wagon shift.
And I could also get into his ridiculous overreaction to my push on him d1.
In post 659, SirCakez wrote:My primary question to Hiraki is why has he spent the entirety of today trying to rush a hammer on me and shut down discussion rather than allow 5C to actually think things through
I haven't rushed anything? You're the one who started the day asking for it to be done before you need to replace out? I just said I'd be annoyed - that's not rushing.
In post 660, SirCakez wrote:Another question I have is why do I kill PP instead of 5C here?
PP suspected both of us. I don't know why you keep reading his post as if it clears you for some reason.
In post 661, SirCakez wrote:And the last thing is why did he claim Merlin? Because all of his explanations for it have been nonsensical.
Already explained this but okay, sure, let's just throw in a "you don't make sense!"
In post 663, SirCakez wrote:Consider that Hiraki opened day 3 voting for Galron instead of BM.
In post 113, Hiraki wrote:The only reason I'm not hammering right now is that I want more reads FYI. TSE doesn't even seem to care about the votes on him.
This also looks bad in light of TSE scumflip. Why even make this post? Seems like delaying in hopes of a wagon shift.
And I could also get into his ridiculous overreaction to my push on him d1.
In post 663, SirCakez wrote:Consider that Hiraki opened day 3 voting for Galron instead of BM.
In fact, reading this more and more makes me think that this is SirCakez trying to dig deeper to figure out which Merlin I am. This is why I do not want to answer any questions. Not because I don't want to pin down SirCakez but that there's still a second layer of the game once SirCakez gets lynched.
Like i've stated multiple times, what was the last post that BM made before i voted BM
answer
In post 524, Battle Mage wrote:As we lose if I die today anyway, and I figure scum will have worked it out anyway, I'm a Merlin and had Thesoulenergy as confirmed scum (who was lynched before I even got here). I've been trying to avoid saying too much to give away who the other Merlins (or indeed myself) were, and likewise, they haven't given much away either which is why we are in a pretty shitty spot in terms of actually lynching scum.
BONUS - who does BM vote before he dies
In post 525, Battle Mage wrote:I'm gonna go with VOTE: SirCakez as I'm more confident on that one.
also for avoiding questions, i've answered a lot of them but you had a problem with
one
answer that just shows how your throwing those darts. the one question that i had a serious problem with to write two posts about it? let's push that under the rug???
In post 659, SirCakez wrote:My primary question to Hiraki is why has he spent the entirety of today trying to rush a hammer on me and shut down discussion rather than allow 5C to actually think things through
I haven't rushed anything? You're the one who started the day asking for it to be done before you need to replace out? I just said I'd be annoyed - that's not rushing.
In post 660, SirCakez wrote:Another question I have is why do I kill PP instead of 5C here?
PP suspected both of us. I don't know why you keep reading his post as if it clears you for some reason.
In post 661, SirCakez wrote:And the last thing is why did he claim Merlin? Because all of his explanations for it have been nonsensical.
Already explained this but okay, sure, let's just throw in a "you don't make sense!"
In post 663, SirCakez wrote:Consider that Hiraki opened day 3 voting for Galron instead of BM.
In post 113, Hiraki wrote:The only reason I'm not hammering right now is that I want more reads FYI. TSE doesn't even seem to care about the votes on him.
This also looks bad in light of TSE scumflip. Why even make this post? Seems like delaying in hopes of a wagon shift.
And I could also get into his ridiculous overreaction to my push on him d1.
