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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:11 am
by PlusJOYED
In post 648, EddieFenix wrote:Very, very annoyed to come back to a quick lynch. I should have been in here on Monday, I take responsibility for not being in here. But, ok. Battle Mage was one of my reads that was off. However, I don't think this one is...

VOTE: Pob Long
we're in a gladiate

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:11 am
by PlusJOYED
In post 648, EddieFenix wrote:Very, very annoyed to come back to a quick lynch. I should have been in here on Monday, I take responsibility for not being in here. But, ok. Battle Mage was one of my reads that was off. However, I don't think this one is...

VOTE: Pob Long
we're in a gladiate

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:11 am
by EddieFenix
Wait....

Unvote
Am the dumb, we have the 3 to choose from

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:11 am
by PlusJOYED
VOTE: noseferatu

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:35 am
by Titus
In post 633, Vecna wrote:Titus, given that we know that the OP says a D1 scum lynch will be especially bad for town, how does that impact how youre gonna look at the voted on D1?
The scum lynch on Day 1 being bad and then the battle mage kill heavily favor scumreading Pete. I still personslly feel Pete is town but the objective nature must put him in the DTL pile.

I need to look at the three names and see who most likely was scum in both a town and scum PickAxe world.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:37 am
by Titus
In post 637, pob long wrote:
In post 636, Gypyx wrote:I mean... 3 peeps to gladiate : 0 scum = horrible / 1 scum = failure / 2 scum = success / 3 scum = perfect

I find it really fitting tbh, and maybe scum has a say in the result
for day 1??? thats way too powerful
It's swingy, and we have no known PRs. We also have no method of determining if Shelley passed or failed.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:44 am
by Saudade
what's the gladiate

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:45 am
by Saudade
oh i see
VOTE: nosferatu

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:46 am
by pob long
??????????/ did I miss something completely Ridiculous???

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:58 am
by Tayl0r Swift
yesssssss

im glad to see people coming around on my nos read

VOTE: nos

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:09 am
by Titus
In post 659, Tayl0r Swift wrote:yesssssss

im glad to see people coming around on my nos read

VOTE: nos
Regardless of Nos alignment, you're still scummy to me. I don't know whether this is mislynch bravado or bussing but you have provided no articulable reason for a NOS fos.

What is your read on Plus joy? He was the major turning point against the PickAxe wagon. Your ignorance of him makes no sense.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:15 am
by Tayl0r Swift
In post 660, Titus wrote:
In post 659, Tayl0r Swift wrote:yesssssss

im glad to see people coming around on my nos read

VOTE: nos
Regardless of Nos alignment, you're still scummy to me. I don't know whether this is mislynch bravado or bussing but you have provided no articulable reason for a NOS fos.

What is your read on Plus joy? He was the major turning point against the PickAxe wagon. Your ignorance of him makes no sense.
i have provided a reason for a Nos scumread. and i think gut is a perfectly valid reason. Plus is kinda obvscum, but given the gladiate, scum probably put plus there on purpose to bait us. Theres really not much content from plus other than always being on the leading wagon and then the hammer. I dont understand a town motivation for any of it, but I dont understand a scum motivation either. So im withholding judgement on plus for now. DGB seemed townie to me yesterday, which leaves Nos by PoE as well as on individual scumminess.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:35 am
by Titus
TS: Plus is obvscum, so he can't be scum. So let's vote the vocal townie out inside because of gut.

Me: Gut is not a valid reason. Town should vote out obvious scum. There's no evidence to support scum picking the gladiate.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:40 am
by Fidget
In post 619, PlusJOYED wrote:oh i know how i can get SR easily
UNVOTE:
VOTE: shellyc
Did you not even believe in the wagon when you hammered it? Why would you get SR if you thought shelly was going to flip scum?

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:44 am
by Fidget
I'm guessing shelly picked out the gladiate, and the results of her trial is determined by how many scum she picked. 0 - horrible consequences for town and she loses, 1 - better, she doesn't lose and we got a chance, 2+ she wins on the spot and we get great odds.

Something like that.

Sure scum could have picked it too but that feels a lot less elegant of a game mechanic. Cause then there'd be obviously 2 town 1 scum gladiated and it just seems like it'd be messy to me.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:46 am
by Fidget
That theory seems to be supported by how we weren't told shelly's trial results (pass/fail). Just this gladiate thing instead.
In post 628, Titus wrote:
In post 626, Vecna wrote:Like, based on the last few posts from shelly, if she did get a good result and she got to decide who would be fighting eachother, I bet pickaxe Pete wouldve been in there.
A good result could vary by number of scums in the gladiate without Shelley having control.
Hm yeah that's also true, maybe the task was unrelated and it just decided the amount of scum inside the gladiate.

Either way, I don't think scum had a hand in it

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:47 am
by Gypyx
Tbh both nos and Goofball are looking like cool wagons

VOTE: dripping

- she's apparently quite vocal as scum, but has been laying pretty low

- had a VERY opportunistic vote on shelly, while expression a townread on her earlier

- townreaded BM pretty hard, which might explain him as the nightkill imo

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:47 am
by Gypyx
As town*

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:48 am
by Fidget
In post 636, Gypyx wrote:I mean... 3 peeps to gladiate : 0 scum = horrible / 1 scum = failure / 2 scum = success / 3 scum = perfect

I find it really fitting tbh, and maybe scum has a say in the result
Maybe I should have read the thread first before giving thoughts but yes this
In post 649, PlusJOYED wrote:I think its noserferatu since dgb's iso is horrid like mine
my guess is that shelly got a fail result and 2 townies (the scummier townies) were put in and 1 scum in solid standing
Lol what determined who were the "scummier townies"?

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:50 am
by Gypyx
In post 668, Fidget wrote:
In post 636, Gypyx wrote:I mean... 3 peeps to gladiate : 0 scum = horrible / 1 scum = failure / 2 scum = success / 3 scum = perfect

I find it really fitting tbh, and maybe scum has a say in the result
Maybe I should have read the thread first before giving thoughts but yes this
I know right

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:50 am
by Fidget
In post 661, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 660, Titus wrote:
In post 659, Tayl0r Swift wrote:yesssssss

im glad to see people coming around on my nos read

VOTE: nos
Regardless of Nos alignment, you're still scummy to me. I don't know whether this is mislynch bravado or bussing but you have provided no articulable reason for a NOS fos.

What is your read on Plus joy? He was the major turning point against the PickAxe wagon. Your ignorance of him makes no sense.
i have provided a reason for a Nos scumread. and i think gut is a perfectly valid reason. Plus is kinda obvscum, but given the gladiate,
scum probably put plus there on purpose to bait us.
Theres really not much content from plus other than always being on the leading wagon and then the hammer. I dont understand a town motivation for any of it, but I dont understand a scum motivation either. So im withholding judgement on plus for now. DGB seemed townie to me yesterday, which leaves Nos by PoE as well as on individual scumminess.
I am almost certain the bold is false. Does that change your opinion on Plus?

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:52 am
by Gypyx
In post 649, PlusJOYED wrote:I think its noserferatu since dgb's iso is horrid like mine
my guess is that shelly got a fail result and 2 townies (the scummier townies) were put in and 1 scum in solid standing
I mean, who would you think is the "solid standing scum" here? All of you 3 are realistic wagons

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:04 am
by Fidget
I actively hate everything in plusJOYED's ISO. It's actually hard to believe one can be so scummy.
In post 477, PlusJOYED wrote:shit bros my mafia processing power is having trouble booting im in too many games
i do think pete is sus though UNVOTE:
VOTE: pete
In post 618, PlusJOYED wrote:
In post 593, shellyc wrote:yes. PlusJoy is a stronger scumread to me atm with even less of a solving mindset / overall blendiness
jokes on you im trying to get put on trial town be damned
guess I haven't done a good job if only you have voted me, how can I scumslip harder?
In post 619, PlusJOYED wrote:oh i know how i can get SR easily
UNVOTE:
VOTE: shellyc
What the hell is this? What was the point of ending the day short on a wagon that your wording implies you don't even believe in? Why would you get SR for it?

So weird.

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Nosferatu's ISO is really empty. Not familiar enough with him to know if that's indicative of anything. I don't hate it like I do plusJOY's. Perhaps that is telling in of itself but I'd have to do a lot of talking with Plus first in order to prefer Nos over him.

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DPG doesn't take a lot of stances does she? These are pretty vague on what she's thinking:
Spoiler:
In post 439, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 405, Tayl0r Swift wrote:so titus and fidget were just distancing? this reconciliation reads really strange to me. but maybe thats just because its past bedtime.
Something is VERY OFF

I can't put my finger on what, exactly.

On one hand I am reading Fidget as town, but am puzzled by the extreme deference and attention paid to mollifying Titus, as if it was more important to convince Titus than the rest of the town.

On the other hand, Titus' phony gambit was just that, a phony gambit. But is it alignment-indicative? If so, which alignment?
In post 452, DrippingGoofball wrote:Pickaxe Pete's iso is pretty bizarre with the shellyc obsession... but at the same time his points against shellyc are on point.
In post 469, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 467, Fidget wrote:Do you want me to make an unofficial VC for you Titus
Titus, who do you feel about having a pet in the game? Is this grovelling from scum or town?

There's also the vote itself where she sheeps Titus' VCA on shelly. I obviously had a very different reaction to the VCA but whatever.

I'm not sure if I prefer DPG or Plus more

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:49 am
by Saudade
Titus is scum with nos, just ignore her

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:31 am
by Marashu
In post 636, Gypyx wrote:I mean... 3 peeps to gladiate : 0 scum = horrible / 1 scum = failure / 2 scum = success / 3 scum = perfect

I find it really fitting tbh, and maybe scum has a say in the result
That was my take-away from it too.