Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 8:28 am
Bingle's gone suspiciously quiet, makes me feel we hit scum here.
https://forum.mafiascum-staging.net/
Positioning, just like when he suggested I was not expecting no to be willing to hammer.In post 649, NorwegianboyEE wrote:N_M i hope for the sake of your general well-being that you hammered scum here.
What is weird about it?In post 648, GuiltyLion wrote:This feels like a weird post - I just stated in my last post that I'm not really feeling TvT from Hopkirk/Bingle, but I haven't yet had time to feel comfortable throwing a vote down especially since there's been so much action between the two of them. It's also odd to me that you're asking Hopkirk these questions??In post 616, Lukewarm wrote:Currently GuiltyLion, Marci, and Hopkirk are all off of the Hopkirk and the Bingle wagons.
So to each of you, do you think Hopkirk and Bingle are TvT?
Do you think someone else would be a better Day 1 elim?
What makes you think they are scummier then hopkirk/Bingle?
If you are wrong, and it is a minelim, do you think it would give us more information then a flip on Hop or Bingle, and if so why?
Actively opposed? Pretty sure I helped convince people to vote for him lol.In post 653, NorwegianboyEE wrote:In fact, just lim Lukewarm. Dunnstrall sometimes be acting this lazy and uninspired in their towngames, but Lukewarms actively opposed the Bingle elimination and advanced their agenda. If Bingle!scum he needs to go.
In post 573, Lukewarm wrote:Would you agree to a vote on you given the same premise?In post 477, Bingle wrote:I'll hammer Scamp if he hits E-1 on the premise we turbolim Hop then Norwee after.
In post 589, Lukewarm wrote: I personally think that everyone in the thread should move their vote to either Hopkirk or Bingle. I just don't see them being TvT
VOTE: Hopkirk
I can clearly show where I convinced both Marci and Bingle to vote for bingle, so you were literally spewing lies rnIn post 634, Lukewarm wrote:I say go for it. I don't really forsee anyone other then hopkirk or Bingle going though at this point, so if that is your scum read between the two of themIn post 633, marcistar wrote:huh, would it be fine to?In post 632, Not_Mafia wrote:marci vote Bingle with us
Like this in general is pretty manipulative framing, there are reasons to not vote someone if you don't want the day to end or want to see where other players are thinking their vote might go. How am I to look at this and see it as anything but an attempt to further poison Hopkirk's standing on a town!Bingle flip?In post 654, Lukewarm wrote:I wanted him to state for the thread why he was not voting for Bingle, because that is for us to analyze once Bingle flips.
I like to understand the positions of people I Town read just as much as the people I scum read.In post 656, GuiltyLion wrote:I explained what's weird about it, you're assuming I'm "not on board" when I had already suggested I *would* be on board. And it makes no sense to ask Hopkirk why he thinks another scumread "is scummier than Hopkirk/Bingle" or whether his own flip would be informative. Just feels like thoughtless busywork questioning all around, especially since you claim to TR marcistar and myself as well
Those are valid reasons, and I was wanting to see if those were the reasons he gave.In post 658, GuiltyLion wrote:Like this in general is pretty manipulative framing, there are reasons to not vote someone if you don't want the day to end or want to see where other players are thinking their vote might go. How am I to look at this and see it as anything but an attempt to further poison Hopkirk's standing on a town!Bingle flip?In post 654, Lukewarm wrote:I wanted him to state for the thread why he was not voting for Bingle, because that is for us to analyze once Bingle flips.
Only if you are not reading my iso .....In post 660, GuiltyLion wrote:especially since in the hood you gave pretty good reasons as to why you didn't personally think Bingle was likely to be scum, but then here you're championing eliminating him ASAP by telling everyone to vote between the two of them?? Do you see how that raises yellow flags for me?
I think you can see pretty clearly here I'm not sure on how it'll go. Luke making comments like 'Hop must be not voting Bingle because scum' rather than because I'm clearly trying to solve bingle (eg when I just said he was 50% scum at best). I didn't vote bingle because I'm unsure and didn't want his hammered. You're insane if you think 'town hop wouldn't put his vote on someone he's scumleaming but sorting' when there literal intent to hammer. Are you not reading my posts luke, or just ignoring them?In post 614, Hopkirk wrote:Current takes from me and my alts
Hopkirk- i want to keep pushing bingle as much as because he's annoying me because as scumreads
Sarah- so like... scum don't shitpush this hard in practice so you're wrong on Bingle!scum which makes NM much more susssss... plus like vanders is obvscum lol. you blind or something
(real name redacted)- I'm not really sure. I'm town on Norway/Marc and Vanders is definitely pinging me right now. I want to look more at him. A lot of his takes feel weird right now.
Hoppy - Bingle is a big meanie but probably isn't scum unless small pool. ugh i really need to solve dunn's alignment to solve this
Hoctic with a simulated hectic - Norway is town, remember what i told you about his WIM
Hipkork - lOl ReAdS, sToP tRyHaRdInG nOoB!
To be quite honest with you, I cared more about Hopkirk's answers to the questions then yours, but thought I was more likely to get telling answers if I did not come across like I was interrogating him.In post 665, GuiltyLion wrote:bruh I've played mafia for 5+ years you don't need to say things like "Picking at peoples motivations is a key way to get a feel for whether or not their actions and motivations line up or if you think their actions are genuine.". My point is that your questions specifically were generic and bad and demonstrated no attempt to infer my thinking from what I had literally just posted.
Now you making him sound rascist.In post 671, Hopkirk wrote:I feel like there'd be coaching there and Luke wouldn't keep openly trying to line up Muslims.
I still stand by my earlier statement, that I think this was the best path to a win for town.In post 669, GuiltyLion wrote:and if Bingle/Hop is in fact TvT then all of your posts and actions are setting us straight on a path to two straight miseliminations. If you really thought Bingle was town you should not have been goading marcistar/Bingle to eliminate there today