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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:49 pm
by Shrek
no because his game plan is just to not talk about the game at all

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:49 pm
by Shrek
like idk what you'd want me to go off of with my reads on nm to begin with

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:03 pm
by Not_Mafia
In post 649, Pavowski wrote:Shrek got something out of NM so he's got that going for him
This could be scum

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:58 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 612, alstroemerial wrote:
In post 607, ArcAngel9 wrote:
Vote Count 1-12
Shrek:
alstroemerial, Umlaut
Pavowski :

alstroemerial :

Zyla :

Lukewarm :
Val89,
Val89 :
,
Not_Mafia :
Lukewarm, Shrek
Umlaut :
Not_Mafia, Zyla
marcistar :


Not Voting
: marcistar, Pavowski

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.



Deadline: July 16, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-18 12:50:00)

Mod Notes:


- :]
Hey @Mod, just to confirm the deadline, is it the end of the 17th now with the extension?
It will be 18th second half as we had the timeline paused for a day

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:02 am
by ArcAngel9
Vote Count 1-13
Shrek:
alstroemerial, Lukewarm, Not_Mafia (E-2)
Pavowski :

alstroemerial :

Zyla :

Lukewarm :
Val89, Pavowski
Val89 :
,
Not_Mafia :
, Shrek, Zyla
Umlaut :
,
marcistar :


Not Voting
: marcistar, Umlaut

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.



Deadline: July 18, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-18 12:50:00)

Mod Notes:

Val89 V/LA until Sunday EOD.
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:48 am
by alstroemerial
In post 628, Shrek wrote:anyways my remaining reads are as follows:

alstro and pavowski: i think alstro actually has high teammate equity with pavowski. i feel like alstro is trying to go for the easy miselim by not involving himself too too much in any ongoing discussion beyond a push on a slot that was already being sussed, while pavowski has been taking the whole laid-back route which i find to be a common mafia strategy. him voting not_mafia seems like he's angling for another miselim and easy vote early on that looks kind of sus to me
I'm pushing a slot that was already being sussed because . . . . I was the first vote who actually got it started :/
In post 632, Shrek wrote: right now i dont want a n_m elim because i entirely think he's scum, i just feel like it will shed a lot of light on how people have been acting around him. ex: those who have been pushing him might look a lot more suspicious in hindsight if he does flip town whereas those sticking their neck out for him will look weird if he's town. it's still best to get a controversial person out first whether that's me or n_m to begin with since anti-town people only make it more difficult for the town to vote correctly down the line.

snip other reads


scum:
alstro
n_m
Why am I above NM here when you have more of an argument on why you sus me?

@Umlaut
, why unvote and not put your vote somewhere else when we are less than 48 hours away from the deadline? Their reads post is fine I guess except for hmm it puts the safest people in null town, the leading wagons in null scum and scum, and the person at the front of their wagon in scum? Hmmmm thank you Luke for .

Like y'all we have 24 hours and I'm not going to be online for long enough times to really Discourse but we have to do something. Can Marci and Umlaut at least put a vote
somewhere
? With the current wagons as Shrek, Luke, and N_M, I'd really rather it not be Luke but I'll do what has to be done to prevent a no elim.

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:00 am
by marcistar
In post 620, Lukewarm wrote:Shrek's iso feels like someone trying to stay alive,
i agree with this, i think they only made because of the backlash, they were trying to please people with that post, so that they wouldn't be pressed much from it.
In post 628, Shrek wrote:i think alstro actually has high teammate equity with pavowski.
can u explain on this..? im not sure where u see this, is it just because theyre both laying back or is there an interaction of them..?
In post 629, Shrek wrote:to clarify on the pavowski end i feel like in our last game together even if he got elimmed on d1, he was a lot more proactive and forward than this which is weird for a change in playstyle so suddenly.
why did you choose to stick to your vote, instead of switching to pavowski if theres such a noticeable change..?
In post 632, Shrek wrote:it's still best to get a controversial person out first whether that's me or n_m to begin with since anti-town people only make it more difficult for the town to vote correctly down the line.
this line from that phat chunk seems like a town thought process.
In post 643, Lukewarm wrote:Next was her read list full of quotes and questions that I particularly liked (starts at in her iso)
i remember i didnt really like those reads from her originally, and didnt see how u thought it could be so townie.
im hoping for an update from her soon tho :good: :good:
In post 646, Shrek wrote:also to everyone on the fence right now i would at least encourage you to go through not_mafia's iso and check that first
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In post 655, alstroemerial wrote:Can Marci and Umlaut at least put a vote
somewhere
? With the current wagons as Shrek, Luke, and N_M, I'd really rather it not be Luke but I'll do what has to be done to prevent a no elim.
i was just reading to decide this since deadline is so close :shifty: :shifty:
i don't want a luke elim either,
i also dont want a shrek elim > hes been contributing, which I think will be helpful to decide things later down the line as opposed to someone who isn't really contributing.
i don't have a read on not_mafia, so I wouldn't mind this
VOTE: not_mafia

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:49 am
by Lukewarm
In post 656, marcistar wrote:i also dont want a shrek elim > hes been contributing, which I think will be helpful to decide things later down the line as opposed to someone who isn't really contributing.
i don't have a read on not_mafia, so I wouldn't mind this
VOTE: not_mafia
I am not quite sure I am following this.

Does "hes been contributing" = he has been townie?

You say that you don't have a read on Not_Mafia, but that would put him in null, right?

Shouldn't you vote for your biggest scum read? Or is null the worst you got right now?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:10 am
by marcistar
doesnt = townie, just means that itll be easier to read him in future phases than it would be to read not_mafia.

yeah hes null, nulls the most i can do right now :-(

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:31 am
by Lukewarm
In post 658, marcistar wrote:doesnt = townie, just means that itll be easier to read him in future phases than it would be to read not_mafia.

yeah hes null, nulls the most i can do right now :-(
So Shrek is also null atm?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:55 am
by Pavowski
In post 613, alstroemerial wrote:One more food for thought to encourage people to vote for the Shrek/Portia slot: I know it sucks to replace in and get eliminated quickly, but that shouldn't be a reason to deter town from voting if they think they've found scum. We have to play to win. Portia was prickly at suspicion, avoidant of actual questions, and flying under the radar until eventually disappearing altogether. Shrek has been a little better but I'm not satisfied with the explanation given in 603 -- this conversation seems so full of hedging without putting a solid stance down, in order to avoid getting held accountable for something later. If it's Not_Mafia or a no elim, I'll help make an elim happen, but if we have some time left I would really ask people to consider this.
These are fair points and I'm finding it hard to disagree
In post 615, Shrek wrote:im fine with being miselimmed if it means that itll help people narrow their poe down when it comes to a more pressing situation where they need to focus specifically on the alignments.
I can't decide if this is super-towny or scum trying to appear super-towny, between stuff like this and the claim Shrek is pinging me in both directions at this point and I don't like it

Trying to catch up on the rest of the thread, I should have a bit more tonight.

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:35 am
by marcistar
In post 659, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 658, marcistar wrote:doesnt = townie, just means that itll be easier to read him in future phases than it would be to read not_mafia.

yeah hes null, nulls the most i can do right now :-(
So Shrek is also null atm?
yea kinda
its too hard to decide about them today, but it looks like they'll be willing to contribute more next phase

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:11 pm
by Pavowski
In post 635, Umlaut wrote:That was E-1, right? ...right?

UNVOTE: Shrek

I actually like their reads post, not just because they call me hard-town (though that's probably part of it just because it surprised me a lot)
Wait, did you unvote because you like their reads post or because Shrek was suddenly at e-1 and you didn't like it?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:09 pm
by Umlaut
A but of both, I didn't like N_M's vote onto it and it made me want to rethink. But on balance I like the makeup of the Shrek wagon more than N_M and there's not much time left so

VOTE: Shrek

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:54 am
by Zyla
Intent to hammer, then

Shrek, any final reads or statements?

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:57 am
by Lukewarm
In post 654, ArcAngel9 wrote:

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-18 12:50:00)

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:01 am
by Pavowski
I was just noticing that, too. I had been under the impression we had until midnight EST in this day.

Shrek's had plenty of time to check in and speak today; If it's not hammered by t-minus 45, I will do it.

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:10 am
by Not_Mafia
Shrek? More like Shkrum

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:14 am
by Shrek
i got nothin. hammer at will boyos

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:15 am
by Not_Mafia
Hammer yourself

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:16 am
by Shrek

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:08 am
by alstroemerial
Someone please
Pavowski we’re past the 45 min mark

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:10 am
by Pavowski
I wanted to give Zyla the chance to follow through, but I agree, we're too close for comfort.

VOTE: Shrek

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:17 am
by Shrek
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:11 pm
by Lukewarm
Just hanging out, waiting for the flip like

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