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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:46 am

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Let's face it, they're just waiting for someone to hammer me
See, from my perspective (knowing I'm town) that would mean that Awesome Pants, Gorrad and Gurgi are all scum. Given how Gorrad went for Gurgi at the start of this day (at a time when he didn't know there was another blocking role to muddy the picture - if I hadn't spoken up, one of the two of them would very likely have been lynched), I don't think it's likely they're both scum. So I think at most two of them could be scum. That leads me to think you are, because if you weren't, the remaining scummer would have hammered by now - as you point out, there's no need for them to delay.

Obviously, from others' perspective I might be scum, but I'm just describing how things look from my perspective right now. I'm town; I don't think all three of AP, G and LG are scum; you've not been hammered yet; so that makes it even more likely you're scum.

(Others on the wagon may have reached similar conclusions: for AP, the same point about G and LG being unlikely scumbuddies applies, for LG, scum having two roleblocking roles seems unlikely, making G and me unlikely scumbuddies. Gorrad is probably the only person on the wagon who might think it's plausible that the other three of us are scum.)
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:02 am

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dahill1 wrote:
Lord Gurgi wrote:KoC: If you are scum you need to learn how to play. If you are town you need to learn how to play. Either way, you are screwing over your team by playing like this. Because, you know what? That is OMGUS, textbook, in fact.
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:16 am

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What's stopping you from hammering if you think that way, out of interest?
AP, why do you only ask Dahill1? There are other players here as well.
I wanted to see what he thinks just so he'd add a bit of content.
My vote for AP has been told. He's the only one together with you who don't want to say their ability. Also he doesn't want to share his night targets just like you. If you think about it, in mini games, it's most likely that there are three scum. Meaning one of them has told his night actions. So what are you talking about a fake claim. I'll tell you. I've got the best ability of all. But just like AP, it's better not to know . That's the reason why I don't continue asking what his ability is, however he could reveal his night targets. I have done the same. Besides, there is only one ability as far as I know, which doesn't want to reveal his night targets.
What do you mean 'my night actions'? Are you infering that I'm scum and one of my scum buddies has listed who we have tried to kill each night as their night actions? Why would scum do that?

Like I've said before, I don't want to claim my night actions as that would, along with the other hints I've given, effectively let the scum know my role. I'm not going to lie, my role isn't the be and end all, but it could buy as an extra day if we're lucky.
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:17 am

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Why'd you just quote that Gurgi??
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:34 am

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Because he's doing it again. It was valid then, and it's valid now. The whole "Game's over, the entire scum team is on my wagon." argument just plain sucks. There's no logic behind assuming that.
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:11 am

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AP, i'm fine with Ku_F's vote because if we lynch scum today IGMEOY next
however, i've already explained why i think we should lynch one of KoC/Gurgi today, and out of them KoC. as before, i will hammer when everyone is ready. and i do think DR should claim night actions.
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:18 am

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I'm almost tempted to self-hammer out of anger here.
dahill, if you think I'm scum, go ahead and hammer. But if you do, there will be no need to have your eye on Gurgi - it'll be game over, because it's mylo.
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:13 am

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AP, to whom is the question: 'What's stopping you from hammering if you think that way, out of interest?' aimed? From your post, I believe it's either imaginality or Gurgi, however you, Gorrad, Gurgi and imaginality are voting KoC already.

AP, again why Dahill1. Why did you want him to add some content?

Also that quote you used, wasn't aimed at you. DR was suggesting that I was waiting with claiming to fake claim. However, you and DR are the only ones who haven't told the night targets yet, which means that if we have 3 scum, someone is lying already.

Besides, I never said that the player who lied had told the NK. The only player who named the first NK was LG. So if I was infering that, then I'd have attacked LG already.

AP, tell me how 'i don't want to claim my night targets as it could reveal my ability', 'along with the other hints I've given' and 'I'm not going to lie, my role isn't the be and end all, but it could buy as an extra day if we're lucky.' aren't revealing your role. To me, there is one ability left. That's why I want to hear your night targets.

These comments are about post 652.

KoC, that last post is definitly anti-town. Why would a townie suggest self-hammer?
Who's scum aru?
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:38 am

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Knight of Cydonia wrote:I'm almost tempted to self-hammer out of anger here.
dahill, if you think I'm scum, go ahead and hammer. But if you do, there will be no need to have your eye on Gurgi - it'll be game over, because it's mylo.
GODDAMMIT NO
I'VE ALREADY EXPLAINED WHY I WILL NOT HAMMER AT LEAST 5 TIMES...

and it was IGMEOY to AP if you are scum, which i'm fairly sure you are now.
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:13 am

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Ku_F wrote:AP, to whom is the question: 'What's stopping you from hammering if you think that way, out of interest?' aimed? From your post, I believe it's either imaginality or Gurgi, however you, Gorrad, Gurgi and imaginality are voting KoC already.
Yeah, my mistake. Didn't realise that imaginality was already voting for KoC.
Ku_F wrote:AP, again why Dahill1. Why did you want him to add some content?
Like I said, I hadn't seen him post in a while a wanted him to add some questions. A nice prodding question can do that, and it did.
Ku_F wrote:AP, tell me how 'i don't want to claim my night targets as it could reveal my ability', 'along with the other hints I've given' and 'I'm not going to lie, my role isn't the be and end all, but it could buy as an extra day if we're lucky.' aren't revealing your role. To me, there is one ability left. That's why I want to hear your night targets.
I really don't want to talk about this any more and will only do so if I really have to. Every post we spend arguing is giving more and more information to the scum. I don't think you do know what my role is either, because if you did, you would not be asking me for targets.
Ku_F wrote:KoC, that last post is definitly anti-town. Why would a townie suggest self-hammer?
Interesting - would you say that KoC is the second scummiest player in the game, after me, by your defintion?
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:12 am

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Ku_F wrote:First of all, I have claimed my role, Gravity, and the targets, Gorrad and AP.
Sorry, I saw the list of claims on post #591 and missed your claim on post #594
Ku_F wrote:My vote for AP has been told. He's the only one together with you who don't want to say their ability. Also he doesn't want to share his night targets just like you.
So, you are voting him BECAUSE he refuses to join the massclaim.
Ku_F wrote: Besides, there is only one ability as far as I know, which doesn't want to reveal his night targets.
Wait.
So you don't favor a massclaim because "we" could get information, but because there is one specific ability you are looking for?
Ku_F wrote:Like I said, there are probably three scum. We're with eight left meaning that one mislynch and one NK will mean the end. Is this convincing enough?
BIG FAT NO!

If you think KoC is innocent and AP is scum, try to convince town KoC is innocent and AP is scum.
If we lynch scum the game goes on, regardless. There is no need to let scum go to night with even more information than they already have.
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:18 am

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Lord Gurgi wrote:Dead Rikimaru, please don't attribute AP quotes to me, that's bad.

Now that someone has brought it up, what's the problem with a nolynch? We could get more information from our claimed RB's, and all that stuff.
Sorry about the quote.
I blame the forum that won't let me hit quote in multiple posts and have the result on one single post. :P

The problem with a no-lynch is that it's just useful when you know exactly how many killing roles are left.
As we don't know that we may be surprised by the number of night kills and lose the game right away.

Lynch scum is much safer. ;)
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:24 am

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Ku_F wrote:Also that quote you used, wasn't aimed at you. DR was suggesting that I was waiting with claiming to fake claim. However, you and DR are the only ones who haven't told the night targets yet, which means that if we have 3 scum,
someone is lying already.
Bold mine.

Don't you see THIS is the problem.
Scum is lying.
Town is telling the truth.
Town doesn't know who are the lying scum. PHAIL
Scum knows who are the townies and that they are telling the truth. PROFIT.

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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:47 am

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Who do
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think is scum, DR? A top 2 or 3 list would be fine.
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:50 am

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Why would a townie suggest self-hammer? I dunno. Anger at all of your idiocy?
Why would a scum suggest self hammer, when, if this is mylo, it would only give the town longer? No good reason whatsoever.
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:01 am

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Knight of Cydonia wrote:Why would a scum suggest self hammer, when, if this is mylo, it would only give the town longer? No good reason whatsoever.
Saying something and then actually going through without it are two different things. My guess is that you said you would self hammer to appear like a frustrated town by your own logic. Unfortunately though, if you are town (which I really doubt), you only succeeded in making yourself look more scummy. Appeals to emotion are not the way to show that you're town.
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:25 am

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Knight of Cydonia wrote:Why would a townie suggest self-hammer? I dunno. Anger at all of your idiocy?
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:24 pm

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And now I'm really fed up.
unvote; vote KoC

I hope you get raped by guys in black suits.
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:57 am

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KoC- 5 (Awesome Pants, Gorrad, Gurgi, imaginality, KoC)

Not Voting- 3 (Ku_F, dahill1, Dead Rikimaru)

8 alive, 5 to lynch.


KoC, Newton's 3rd Law, PGO Maker, was lynched D3.


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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:49 am

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No deaths again.

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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:03 pm

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dammit just realized i didnt send in a choice :(
anyway other actions should prob be claimed now
i am pretty sure the no death had to do with all of our types of RBs
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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:51 pm

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I targetted Gurgi again.
Vote: Gurgi
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:56 pm

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im thinking gurgi too atm mainly due to yesterday's actions (KoC protecting Gurgi twice)
but i wont place a vote until other actions are claimed
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:00 pm

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From yesterday's play, I think Ku_F is scum.
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:16 pm

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My role changed as a result of KoC's death. I'm wondering if anyone else's roles changed too? Now, instead of jailer, I'm a kind of super-bodyguard. I redirect all actions aimed at my target to me (not just kill attempts, investigations etc too).

I was told this at the start of the night, so I targeted Gorrad (figuring if he's pro-town, better for me to die than for us to lose our roleblocker, if scum targeted him).

Since I'm not a jailer any more, it looks very very likely that Gurgi is scum (he was the only person roleblocked).

Like dahill though, I'd rather wait to hear what the other night actions were before voting Gurgi, just in case, and especially since there's the possibility other players' powers may have changed too.
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