Open 822: Popcorn Mafia - Game Over!!

[HockeyFan]

I suggest you shoot Galron Art or Vulture unless someone develops a strong opinion against that.

Hectic or Vulture might not be a bad shot. Just sayin'.

elaborate? I dont think scum mentions both of their partners so loosely like that.

[Toogeloo]

I'm not saying both, but there is this thing called the Rule of 3 that some members like to use.

[HockeyFan]

I'm not saying both, but there is this thing called the Rule of 3 that some members like to use.

ah i see where you're going with this, yea that could be entirely possible but idt sr'ing someone over this is accurate

[marcistar]

vultures scum yall smhsmh

[Galron]

vultures scum yall smhsmh

Scum case him Marci.

[Hectic]

marci, why did you ramp the ironic gimmick posting to 100 this game? I'm debating whether it's a way for you to hide tone and not be read that way, or if you're just having fun with it

[Hectic]

In the meantime, a question for you since you're scumreading me (over the Marci read, and whatever else). If I'm scum, why in the balls am I going neck-deep in my scumread on Marci? If she does flip green (again I doubt it but let's face it, I could obviously be wrong), I'm almost guaranteeing that she turns around and shoots me in the face. A 1-for-1 trade is hardly ideal for scum in this setup. How is this a winning play for me as scum?

Scum have to scumread someone, it's not like scum!Pav would plan for marci to scumread him back and shoot him upon receiving the gun. Also, I'm not even sure if town!marci shoots you, there's been a lot of talk of Vulture-scum from her recently

[Galron]

VOTE: Shoot: marcistar

I think regardless of the flip, this tells us a lot.

[marcistar]

vultures scum yall smhsmh

Scum case him Marci.

cuz he is??

marci, why did you ramp the ironic gimmick posting to 100 this game? I'm debating whether it's a way for you to hide tone and not be read that way, or if you're just having fun with it

it prob fits more within the having fun aspect

VOTE: Shoot: marcistar

bruh

[Toogeloo]

The suspense...

[Pavowski]

...is killing...

[Hectic]

...marci

[marcistar]

if im town how would yalls reads change

[HockeyFan]

if im town how would yalls reads change

I mean i was already starting to TL you lol so they wont change much imho. I think mafia team is pav/luke(his bad faith case on me combined with not that much contnet), and uhhh idk 3rd one. I want to sr vulture but thier content seems towny, and i cant SR togeloo/Hectic

[marcistar]

I want to sr vulture but thier content seems towny, and i cant SR togeloo/Hectic

if u had to put a pin in one of those 3, which one would it be?

wdym but "cant sr"? whats holding you back?

[Pavowski]

if im town how would yalls reads change

I'm feeling townish on Toog and Hockey these days, so ... I guess my poe would be in Vulture, Enchant, Luke, Hectic ... in no particular order at the moment, but I'm not super comfortable leaning into any of that right this minute.

Why are you saying "if" though? You know how you're flipping here. If you're town, who are you inclined to shoot?

[marcistar]

I'm feeling townish on Toog and Hockey these days, so ... I guess my poe would be in Vulture, Enchant, Luke, Hectic ... in no particular order at the moment, but I'm not super comfortable leaning into any of that right this minute.

what do u think about how enchant was tring me earlier?

[Hectic]

Looking like you're gonna flip town, aren't you? I don't see a reason to give more info after death is guaranteed

My solve would still be Pav + Enchant + Lukewarm

[Pavowski]

I'm feeling townish on Toog and Hockey these days, so ... I guess my poe would be in Vulture, Enchant, Luke, Hectic ... in no particular order at the moment, but I'm not super comfortable leaning into any of that right this minute.

what do u think about how enchant was tring me earlier?

Enchant admitted he's hardly following the game so I dunno what to make of his reads on anybody.

[Hectic]

I'm feeling townish on Toog and Hockey these days, so ... I guess my poe would be in Vulture, Enchant, Luke, Hectic ... in no particular order at the moment, but I'm not super comfortable leaning into any of that right this minute.

what do u think about how enchant was tring me earlier?

It's bad. The only real reason he gave for townreading you was that mafia wouldn't be so outrageous. Ergo, he's saying mafia wouldn't do the posting schtick you do which is easily discounted if he looked through any of your other games and saw you do it every game

Otherwise, he seems far too confident on marci!town just because you're easy to push and "simple easy target" etc

Looks like some standard whiteknighting TMI to me

[Hectic]

(this is all assuming marci isn't just trolling here)

I also don't really like Luke's reason to townread Enchant. I get Enchant looks bored with the game and his posting progression reflects that, but I don't think that's exclusive to town. Like that reads makes me want to shoot Luke before Enchant, since there's a chance Luke is TMIing on town!Enchant (or he's just defending a scum buddy)

[Hectic]

One concern I have there tho, is that if he is scum, and has been gunning for me, then I think that might mean that my reads are bad. Otherwise, why risk giving me the gun?

I also wanna come back to this

I'm really struggling to see where this comes from a genuine town perspective. Like why does town!Lukewarm assume that scum!Vulture pushing him means he wants Lukwarm to actually get the gun? Galron is the gun bearer, and Vulture and I were pretty much the only ones in thread with much sus on Luke at that point. Does he really think scum!Vulture pushes him there eith the goal of getting Galron to shoot him, given Lukewarm's overall thread status?

It seems like a big jump in logic to go from
Vulture is pushing me and may be scum ->
Does that mean scum want me to have the gun? ->
My reada might be bad and they want me to misfire

Isn't it the far more likely conclusion that in a scum!Vulture world, Vulture is just faking reads and doing what scum do without a grander objective like

get the gun to someone who has bad reads

. And would scum!Vulture really think they can even influence Galron enough to shoot Luke?

Essentially, I don't buy that Lukewarm is actually worried about such a thing and that it's faked nuance that he would never think as town

[Hectic]

Yo Pav, can you articulate your thoughts on Luke? With like those fancy reasons people do sometimes

I know I'm asking you for a big favour here but I'll pay you in soul hearts if you can help me out

[HockeyFan]

I want to sr vulture but thier content seems towny, and i cant SR togeloo/Hectic

if u had to put a pin in one of those 3, which one would it be?

wdym but "cant sr"? whats holding you back?

I said "can't sr" because they're my Top tr's and i really dont think my read will ever change on them because I think they're pretty darn town. Im aware if you're town one of them can be mafia, but out of those 3, I think im putting the pin in Vulture, i could be totally wrong here tho

[Toogeloo]

It dawned on me that the Gunbearer should always make a final thoughts list when shooting. The person who has been shot doesn't need to leave reads, that is pointless.