Micro 1029: 8-Ball (but with Wolves) Game Over

Save The Dragons · Post Post #650 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:26 am

Vote Count 2.4

3 Wisdom (House, Taly, imaginality)
3 Bingle (Morning Tweet, Wisdom, the worst)
1 the worst (Bingle)

Not voting: Momrangal

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to yeet

Deadline:

D2 ends at (expired on 2021-10-02 17:15:04)

imaginality · Post Post #651 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:06 am

I'll do some rereading of the Bingle case today as I've just skimmed last couple of pages. One question I have for others who know him is, is he someone who'd hold back from hammering Alisae yesterday or Wisdom today? In both cases I think they were X-1 for a while and they can't both be his buddies.

Wisdom · Post Post #652 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:47 am

Bingle put Ali at e-1, he couldn't hammer

Wisdom · Post Post #653 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:49 am

And i dont think i was at e-1

Bingle · Post Post #654 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:00 am

I think he’s asking if I would have hammered you today, which I could have, but why would I?

Bingle · Post Post #655 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:07 am

In post 649, Wisdom wrote:I don't recall anyone using that excuse today

If youre referring to Bingle's thing yesterday I agreed it was terrible

I used the inverse argument to support my duck case (there are no worlds in which duck is 8ball today) and Taly, duck and MT were interested in who might be 8 ball today.

Taly’s list was Ali/Taly/you/imagine and duck’s was duck/mom/imagine which is all sorts of made up.

Bingle · Post Post #656 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:14 am

In post 646, Wisdom wrote:If hes scum, it was on purpose. Why would he selfhammer

@bingle

Im not sure what the question is. Why would scum Ali self hammer? Frustration. Why would town Ali self hammer? Frustration.

Why would town Ali fake a self hammer? E probably wouldn’t, but I don’t really think it was faked.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen Ali self hammer as an information denial tool.

ISO · Post Post #657 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:27 am

In post 651, imaginality wrote:I'll do some rereading of the Bingle case today as I've just skimmed last couple of pages. One question I have for others who know him is, is he someone who'd hold back from hammering Alisae yesterday or Wisdom today? In both cases I think they were X-1 for a while and they can't both be his buddies.

I think if Ali was the 8-ball yesterday then hammering that (earlier in the day, not when it was a deadline crunch) would have looked really bad. Better to not associate with the wagon, not really give a read on Ali (Which is the impression I was getting from how Ali described Bingle? Correct if wrong though)

Don't know with regards to Wisdom -- yes he might be Bingle's buddy, also just not sure throwing down a hammer in a nightless setup and trading one-for-one is a good idea rather than trying to turn others' reads around.

Unless, of course, I am incorrect in my assumption that hammering (town) Wisdom today or Ali early yesterday would be perceived as scummy

Wisdom · Post Post #658 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:50 am

In post 656, Bingle wrote:
In post 646, Wisdom wrote:If hes scum, it was on purpose. Why would he selfhammer

@bingle
Im not sure what the question is. Why would scum Ali self hammer? Frustration. Why would town Ali self hammer? Frustration.

Why would town Ali fake a self hammer? E probably wouldn’t, but I don’t really think it was faked.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen Ali self hammer as an information denial tool.

You missed the one im actually supporting, that he was scum faking it

Wisdom · Post Post #659 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:52 am

To word this better;

I was saying that he either was frustrated town or gambiting scum. I dont see the merit in selfhammering as scum, especially when liming another person grants your team a nk

Taly · Post Post #660 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:22 am

There are pretty few games that have had a trajectory that I expected less than this one. This is making for a passive toucan dayphase.

the worst

-

In post 588, the worst wrote:
In post 562, Taly wrote:But I also wonder why Bingle feels compelled to defend Wisdom.
i feel like bingle is
- missing a vibe read
- working on a consistent trajectory

he feels forced

Specific posts, please?

I can't tell if

Wisdom's

avoiding me or thinks he has better things to do than dissuade me from his wagon and

House

townread.

In post 651, imaginality wrote:I'll do some rereading of the Bingle case today as I've just skimmed last couple of pages. One question I have for others who know him is, is he someone who'd hold back from hammering Alisae yesterday or Wisdom today? In both cases I think they were X-1 for a while and they can't both be his buddies.

I'm familiar with

Bingle

but I don't think I've seen his scumgame yet.

Also

Imaginality

, I really want to pick your brain on how you went from

Wisdom

is the best elimination EoD1 to

Alisae

over one post. Like, do you remember your internal monologue when you wrote 265?

Taly · Post Post #661 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:31 am

In post 560, Bingle wrote:
I expected Ali to have been hammered by Taly
and was vaguely hoping the null read would flip scum, then responded when the mod made a contrary call.

Let me understand this - you thought that the quote preview error I made was an actual hammer 288

But when it didn't happen 310, you L1'd

Alisae

in 405

Over 3 pages of content happened during that time. Why the wait?

And if this is an incorrect interpretation of your post

, what gave you the impression that I'd 180 on my

Alisae

townread?

Taly · Post Post #662 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:35 am

In post 633, Wisdom wrote:
In post 630, House wrote:
In post 595, Wisdom wrote:
In post 485, House wrote:
In post 378, Wisdom wrote:If you are town voting yourself makes zero sense
Especially if you happen to be the 8ball
You just take away the info of the 5th person on your wagon from us

But you're probably just scum so
Scum self-hammers

Demoralized town self-votes.

You're better than this.
Except it was not a hammer

EXACTLY MY POINT
Your point apparently is to cut my post in half and dodge what I'm actually saying entirely

I'm not getting anything from this dialogue.

How do you read

House's

entrance?

House · Post Post #663 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:38 am

When I saw the player list, I was really hoping I'd be able to obvtown myself to Wisdom and sheep him to victory.

Then I read the game and got sad in the pants.

Taly · Post Post #664 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:39 am

House

, you seem more familiar with

Wisdom

scum than I do, what's your meta take?

Also, do you think the thread currently aligns with the narrative that you're the 8ball, or is a current wagon or someone else that has already been voted - a likelier 8ball?

Wisdom · Post Post #665 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:40 am

In post 660, Taly wrote:I can't tell if Wisdom's avoiding me or thinks he has better things to do than dissuade me from his wagon and House townread.

I answered you, don't remember seeing any other post directed to me

House · Post Post #666 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:41 am

In post 664, Taly wrote:
House
, you seem more familiar with
Wisdom
scum than I do, what's your meta take?

Also, do you think the thread currently aligns with the narrative that you're the 8ball, or is a current wagon or someone else that has already been voted - a likelier 8ball?

Technically, I'm familiar with town!Wisdom, and this ain't it.

Tbf, my knowledge of his play is years old.

Wisdom · Post Post #667 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:42 am

In post 663, House wrote:When I saw the player list, I was really hoping I'd be able to obvtown myself to Wisdom and sheep him to victory.

Then I read the game and got sad in the pants.

You certainly don't feel like you want to obvtown yourself to me

House · Post Post #668 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:43 am

In post 664, Taly wrote:
House
, you seem more familiar with
Wisdom
scum than I do, what's your meta take?

Also, do you think the thread currently aligns with the narrative that you're the 8ball, or is a current wagon or someone else that has already been voted - a likelier 8ball?

I think I'm the likely 8-ball, as Alisae was on the verge of being eliminated for the 2nd day in a row when I joined the game.

House · Post Post #669 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:44 am

In post 667, Wisdom wrote:
In post 663, House wrote:When I saw the player list, I was really hoping I'd be able to obvtown myself to Wisdom and sheep him to victory.

Then I read the game and got sad in the pants.
You certainly don't feel like you want to obvtown yourself to me

Read my entrance. I DID, when I joined.

Wisdom · Post Post #670 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:44 am

In post 662, Taly wrote:How do you read House's entrance?

A little townier than Ali which is why Im giving him a chance but the way hes treating me does not really match town House

Wisdom · Post Post #671 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:45 am

In post 669, House wrote:
In post 667, Wisdom wrote:
In post 663, House wrote:When I saw the player list, I was really hoping I'd be able to obvtown myself to Wisdom and sheep him to victory.

Then I read the game and got sad in the pants.
You certainly don't feel like you want to obvtown yourself to me
Read my entrance. I DID, when I joined.

I don't care what you did what you joined.
Why are you still acting like youre scumreading me here when you should know better?

House · Post Post #672 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:47 am

In post 671, Wisdom wrote:
In post 669, House wrote:
In post 667, Wisdom wrote:
In post 663, House wrote:When I saw the player list, I was really hoping I'd be able to obvtown myself to Wisdom and sheep him to victory.

Then I read the game and got sad in the pants.
You certainly don't feel like you want to obvtown yourself to me
Read my entrance. I DID, when I joined.
I don't care what you did what you joined.
Why are you still acting like youre scumreading me here when you should know better?

Why should I know better? Wheel did you start giving reasons for reads? When did you start "reading" people so specifically?

Like, you should KNOW I'm town. You should have seen it before Taly.

This is weird for you.

House · Post Post #673 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:48 am

In post 672, House wrote:
In post 671, Wisdom wrote:
In post 669, House wrote:
In post 667, Wisdom wrote:
In post 663, House wrote:When I saw the player list, I was really hoping I'd be able to obvtown myself to Wisdom and sheep him to victory.

Then I read the game and got sad in the pants.
You certainly don't feel like you want to obvtown yourself to me
Read my entrance. I DID, when I joined.
I don't care what you did what you joined.
Why are you still acting like youre scumreading me here when you should know better?
Why should I know better? When did you start giving reasons for reads? When did you start "reading" people so specifically?

Like, you should KNOW I'm town. You should have seen it before Taly.

This is weird for you.

Fix't

House · Post Post #674 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:48 am

In post 673, House wrote:
In post 672, House wrote:
In post 671, Wisdom wrote:
In post 669, House wrote:
In post 667, Wisdom wrote:
In post 663, House wrote:When I saw the player list, I was really hoping I'd be able to obvtown myself to Wisdom and sheep him to victory.

Then I read the game and got sad in the pants.
You certainly don't feel like you want to obvtown yourself to me
Read my entrance. I DID, when I joined.
I don't care what you did what you joined.
Why are you still acting like youre scumreading me here when you should know better?
Why should I know better? When did you start giving reasons for reads? When did you start "reading" people so superficially*?

Like, you should KNOW I'm town. You should have seen it before Taly.

This is weird for you.
Fix't

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