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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:37 am
by Ydrasse
In post 648, Nero Cain wrote:I kinda disliked this post
I wouldn't say I'm an expert Fire reader or anything but this feels pretty normal b/c I think she does make lil' cutesy jokey posts like this and I felt like it was more of a nitpick than hunting.
In post 362, VP Baltar wrote: In post 199, Nero Cain wrote: In post 187, xofelf wrote:Making my semi-yearly mafia appearance with a playerlist I'm pretty excited about.
While its great to hear from you it would have been much better if you talked about the first 8 pages.
You going to be this annoying all game or just play mafia?
i know I already commented on this but me calling out a contentless void is a perfectly reasonable thing to do and I think it makes 0 sense that town him is up in arms about it.
was also nodding along with idea that he's being nitpicky about Ausukas town read of me.
Mmmmmm
two people saying roughly same things to me
i consider
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:40 am
by Ausuka
In post 389, VP Baltar wrote: In post 377, Ausuka wrote: In post 374, VP Baltar wrote: In post 370, Ausuka wrote:Why do you ask? I think there's enough content here that you don't have to pick at vibe reads
Seemed like a read not based in reality.
What should I be picking at?
What does "a read not based in reality" actually mean
It means it seems like you made it up and now you are covering poo with ~vibes~
In post 512, VP Baltar wrote: In post 509, Ausuka wrote:But like I don't have an especially meta based read on Nero, maybe the type of player he is factors in slightly but I don't see where you're coming from by asking about this
Trying to understand your gut read. wtf
I'm not going to begrudge you having a gut read, but it struck me as a weird one to take when I saw nothing special in his play. It's good to hear you have a decent number of games at least. People say gut all the time, but there is often an actual thought there if you drill down far enough. Hell, even when I have gut reads, if I question myself enough and talk through it, I can usually get to what is pinging for me specifically.
I need to do some work now (and still somehow not caught up, agh), but I'll think about this some more and probs reread your town ping with the context of your past experiences.
This is what I meant by engagement more so? Like, he seems to be all like "wow ausuka you're just covering poo" and pushing me and for some reason after voting me he acts like he's trying to understand even though I never really felt like he was engaging with my explanation properly?
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:41 am
by Irrelephant11
VOTE: VP Baltar
I love wagons
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:41 am
by VP Baltar
In post 635, scamper wrote: In post 621, Datisi wrote: In post 344, scamper wrote:(personally im still on the fence re: dats, but thats less important right now)
scamper, is this "null" or "conflicting feelings"? if it's the latter, can you elaborate?
idk, more null. im more waiting to see what reads u have rather than going off some silly vibe thing about whether u seem happy or unhappy or anxious or w/e
Datisi posted some reads. What did you think of those?
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:43 am
by fireisredsir
missed you nero :>
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:44 am
by scamper
In post 653, VP Baltar wrote: In post 635, scamper wrote: In post 621, Datisi wrote: In post 344, scamper wrote:(personally im still on the fence re: dats, but thats less important right now)
scamper, is this "null" or "conflicting feelings"? if it's the latter, can you elaborate?
idk, more null. im more waiting to see what reads u have rather than going off some silly vibe thing about whether u seem happy or unhappy or anxious or w/e
Datisi posted some reads. What did you think of those?
if u mean the ones from
237, i thought they were ok early game thoughts but theres been a lot since then and as far i can tell his thoughts havent updated
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:45 am
by Nero Cain
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:46 am
by VP Baltar
In post 651, Ausuka wrote:even though I never really felt like he was engaging with my explanation properly?
Pretty hard disagree. I ask questions because I'm absolutely engaging with your explanation. You may not like the questions I ask, but if I'm asking you then I'm trying to understand where you are coming from.
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:47 am
by fireisredsir
In post 647, Aristeia wrote: In post 619, fireisredsir wrote:
who do you think you've been trying to sort, and what have you actively done to further that goal?
29 37 51 is sorting nero
60 is sorting hem
39 is sorting ydra
166 is sorting firebringer
169, 172 is sorting baltar
i'm sorting skitter by ignoring her push
and I guess I'm sorting you rn?
hmm i have trouble counting a lot of these as qualifying. i think there are a couple posts that do count but they're later, and it's still kinda overall lacking
did you learn anything from those sorts?
i actually thought it was very odd and surprising that you didn't dunk on nero for
58 but maybe you just didn't really want to engage with him but then you did voluntarily later and im still not really sure if it's gotten you anywhere in terms of a read
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:48 am
by Ausuka
In post 370, Ausuka wrote:
I mean I quoted the posts I liked. They felt genuine enough and the first post I quoted in particular seems like a sincere overreaction.
Why do you ask? I think there's enough content here that you don't have to pick at vibe reads
I mean fundamentally I don't really think you addressed this read in any way other than automatically dismiss the idea it could ever come from town. The best way I can describe it is you didn't talk about my read, you talked around my read in a way that felt like pushing me for the sake of it.
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:49 am
by Aristeia
In post 658, fireisredsir wrote:i actually thought it was very odd and surprising that you didn't dunk on nero for 58 but maybe you just didn't really want to engage with him but then you did voluntarily later and im still not really sure if it's gotten you anywhere in terms of a read
why would I dunk on nero for a bad read when I expect town!nero to have bad reads
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:50 am
by fireisredsir
that's a pretty good point
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:51 am
by Aristeia
it's a work in progress. we're like not even one day in?
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:51 am
by VP Baltar
In post 648, Nero Cain wrote:I kinda disliked this post
I wouldn't say I'm an expert Fire reader or anything but this feels pretty normal b/c I think she does make lil' cutesy jokey posts like this and I felt like it was more of a nitpick than hunting.
In post 362, VP Baltar wrote: In post 199, Nero Cain wrote: In post 187, xofelf wrote:Making my semi-yearly mafia appearance with a playerlist I'm pretty excited about.
While its great to hear from you it would have been much better if you talked about the first 8 pages.
You going to be this annoying all game or just play mafia?
i know I already commented on this but me calling out a contentless void is a perfectly reasonable thing to do and I think it makes 0 sense that town him is up in arms about it.
was also nodding along with idea that he's being nitpicky about Ausukas town read of me.
Feel like the fire being cute thing has been talked about already, but I'd say you're wrong here. Fire is v. nice of course, but is also serious about mafia. Early on, they were doing more flirty cutey stuff than hunting, which was atypical. I think fire has gotten more serious since then, so it's a moot point now, but was accurate as of that post.
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:53 am
by Nero Cain
but my reads aren't always wrong.
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:54 am
by Ydrasse
we have to get rip of people who treat mafia sites like dating websites on principle. no more flirting.
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:54 am
by Ausuka
In post 665, Ydrasse wrote:we have to get rip of people who treat mafia sites like dating websites on principle. no more flirting.
But I like Datisi and Aristeia
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:55 am
by Ydrasse
theyre gonna be the first to go
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:55 am
by VP Baltar
In post 659, Ausuka wrote:The best way I can describe it is you didn't talk about my read, you talked around my read in a way that felt like pushing me for the sake of it.
Probably not wrong that some is pushing for the sake...it's kind of what I do until I feel strongly about a scum read.
But I don't think I'm talking around your read either. Or I don't quite understand what you mean. What did I not ask you that you think I should have ?
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:55 am
by fireisredsir
i agree, but i think it's a point that makes her actions consistent from an ari perspective
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:55 am
by Nero Cain
I thought Fire's town read on scamper in
147 was serious but just said in a humorous way.
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:56 am
by VP Baltar
In post 665, Ydrasse wrote:we have to get rip of people who treat mafia sites like dating websites on principle. no more flirting.
Hard town read
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:58 am
by VP Baltar
In post 670, Nero Cain wrote:I thought Fire's town read on scamper in
147 was serious but just said in a humorous way.
Maybe. If I could pull off cutesy, I'd do that exact thing to pocket people D1. I think that's what I don't like about it. It's also just a weaker approach than I'm used to from fire. Especially in a stacked playerlist. I think fire cares about being well regarded for quality of play, and that is meeeeh
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:59 am
by Ausuka
In post 668, VP Baltar wrote: In post 659, Ausuka wrote:The best way I can describe it is you didn't talk about my read, you talked around my read in a way that felt like pushing me for the sake of it.
Probably not wrong that some is pushing for the sake...it's kind of what I do until I feel strongly about a scum read.
But I don't think I'm talking around your read either. Or I don't quite understand what you mean. What did I not ask you that you think I should have ?
I think that if you really wanted to take that line of argument seriously, you could have at least like asked something about the posts I was townreading? instead you were asking stuff like what else you should be picking at, about my meta with nero, and generally just reiterating how much you found it scummy
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 9:01 am
by fireisredsir
In post 670, Nero Cain wrote:I thought Fire's town read on scamper in
147 was serious but just said in a humorous way.
it was almost entirely joking, i don't think i had much of a read on scamper at that point
but i do townread scamper a little now
