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[skitter30]

annies probably town just from reading the tracker

also sb9 is practically openwolfing

yep. forwards thread need to be pressuring him.

our bad for giving him turnstile access. Mie scuse

You guys (i.e. your slot + dandelion) have managed to be so aggressively wrong abt so many things that i'm starting to become a bit paranoid

[skitter30]

I think there's a decent chance scum!lld brought up the whole idea to turnstile town!ss to get the free misflip

but the default was like SS getting elimed today if I remember which direction the thread was going when she brought it up? was she the first one to bring it up?

Like I don't see the point of scum giving up a mis-elim target especially in a cramped game where everyone is feeling very townie?

She was the first person to bring it up, yes. And that's my point - i dont think they allow the chance to get the lover flip to pass them by, i think they try to get it if they can

[SirCakez]

Elimination Votecount 5.19

LadyLambdadelta (3) - Spiffeh, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

skitter30 (1) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

PookyTheMagicalBear (1) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

Almost50 (1) - Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

Petapan (1) - Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

Firebringer (1) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

Spiffeh (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

Deacon Blues (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

Dandelion Wine (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

midwaybear (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

(expired on 2021-01-16 22:32:00) remain until day end

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 to reach a majority.

Spoiler: Turnstile

Turnstile Votecount 5.19

skitter30 (2) - Spiffeh, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

Spiffeh (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

Almost50 (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

Petapan (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

Deacon Blues (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

Dandelion Wine (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

midwaybear (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

Firebringer (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

LadyLambdadelta (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

PookyTheMagicalBear (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

(expired on 2021-01-16 22:32:00) remain until day end

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 to reach a majority.

Spoiler: Purple Room

Purple Room Votecount 5.19

Spiffeh (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

Almost50 (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

Petapan (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

Deacon Blues (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

Dandelion Wine (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

midwaybear (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

Firebringer (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

LadyLambdadelta (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

skitter30 (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

PookyTheMagicalBear (0) - Spiffeh, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Almost50

(expired on 2021-01-16 22:32:00) remain until day end

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 to reach a majority.

[petapan]

did a quick skim through of this game that just ended:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=85074

Peta/Mwb/Ico scum team stomped the town and their play looks nothing like what's going on in this game

Though it could be that Peta and Mwb just had like 0 respect for the town in the game so they both decided to straight up open wolf their way thru the entire game balls out.

in that game the town kind of ripped its own face off so we didn't have to do much and the best thing was to sit back and let it happen. the cumulative number of times any member of the scumteam was voted that game was 2.

but yes, midwaybear is very nervous as scum and it comes through in his posts, several times he expressed to me in the PT he didn't know what to say, and here he just does not have the feeling of nervousness in his posting at all.

one of the things we

did

do in that game (well, mainly iconeum i think) was abuse setup spec to get the town to axe its own PRs (including our dear moderator) by stepping in and going "gee i dunno guys do you really think the setup would have two investigatives, this seems too strong" and get people to ignore logic of how, say, a certain player would never claim the way they did as scum and was towntelling very hard, and instead go "but balance!" when it turns out most people just don't have a good idea of how setups are constructed

and so that's why people trying to come in and get someone voted purely off setup spec is so scummy to me

[petapan]

So, like, SB9 cries about needing to be turnstiled over here for pretty much most of the game, complains about there not being a lot going on in inverted on Day 2 while they were waiting for us to elim someone, and he pretty much knew he was coming over here Day 3 anyway, and he just decides not to read the first 3 Days of this thread?

BECAUSE HE'S FUCKING SCUM

[petapan]

in hindsight i probably shouldn't be giving spiffeh a pass for sheer total incuriosity; having a50 as his sole scumread is also pretty shite

[Firebringer]

UNVOTE: skitter
Okay guys we can lynch skitter today.

[skitter30]

I dont think that's a thing thats happening today

[Firebringer]

Says you!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wtf fb

[skitter30]

pooky! can i interest you in the fantastic fire and/or lld wagons?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I just finished a game where scum actively self-hammered their own supersaint in order to try to deny us a bonus-misflip on a LHF player that we were trying to get rid of and that ended up spewing the scum who had set up the Supersaint Self-Hammer as Scum. The scum team ended up conceding on the next day. It's much more ++Town EV to take the bonus misflip there and I'm not even sure it makes sense for a baddie to bring that line of play up - it's much better for the scum team to just leave SS alive as a mis-elim target for the town today since titus green flip --> SS getting elim'd today?

I could go for FB but I want to talk to him more first.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

one of dandelion and deacon has to be scum, right?

I don't see a way they arent.

annies probably town just from reading the tracker

also sb9 is practically openwolfing

yep. forwards thread need to be pressuring him.

our bad for giving him turnstile access. Mie scuse

You guys (i.e. your slot + dandelion) have managed to be so aggressively wrong abt so many things that i'm starting to become a bit paranoid

UNVOTE: skitter
Okay guys we can lynch skitter today.

as far as I can see skitter is like the first person who's ever like agreed with your train of thought on these 2 slots so um, what r u doing?

[petapan]

yeah i don't think the reasoning about the something smart flip is a good case


i just still think lld's scum

[petapan]

like personally if i was scum i'd have dug my heels in against that flip way more, but getting getting him out of the way means less of a distraction and people have to consider other votes

[petapan]

challenge for ya pooky

Petapan
Deacon Blues (fferyllt/borkjerfkin)
Dandelion Wine (Cephrir/Cabd)
midwaybear
Firebringer
Lady Lambdadelta
skitter30
superbowl9
Annie Edison

what order do you put these names in because you're putting townreads on most of the people in this list

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Skitter
Deacon
Dandelion
Peta
LLD
MWB

off top of my head rn.

I need to do more reading of the other 3 to figure out where to slot them.

[petapan]

didnt you just enter the day talking about midwaybear this game being nothing like his scumgame

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

thats ranked in order of how likely I think they r scum relative to each other

[petapan]

I could go for FB but I want to talk to him more first.

???

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i dont even know what you are asking there

[petapan]

oh i forgot to ask:

skitter, does your read on annie change with their tracker being outed

[Firebringer]

as far as I can see skitter is like the first person who's ever like agreed with your train of thought on these 2 slots so um, what r u doing?

How does agreeing with me make her town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

as far as I can see skitter is like the first person who's ever like agreed with your train of thought on these 2 slots so um, what r u doing?

How does agreeing with me make her town

how does agreeing with you make her scum?

[Firebringer]

as far as I can see skitter is like the first person who's ever like agreed with your train of thought on these 2 slots so um, what r u doing?

How does agreeing with me make her town

how does agreeing with you make her scum?

It doesn’t but if ur coming here asking “wtf this scumread of skitter is weird fire” I’ll fire back with “literally been scum reading skitter all game”

It was my most developed read and I only stopped pushing yesterday because deacon/dandelion were being narcs trying to call shots and I was against that shit since neither supported my skitter push day one.

Like I know u joined at end of day one but this was like my biggest contribution to game so it’s pretty annoying to me to see u sit here going “this is out of left field”