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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:03 pm
by April Ludgate
We should definitely just fade today, narrow the pool a bit more. We’re gonna have a double death eventually, so no fade is just anti productive.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:04 pm
by morph the cat
Ignoring shrodinger's conftown, my reads look like
{Secret Tunnels, 420.......zmuffinman........Bell} (never really expected 420 to be this high, but here we are)
{Remilia}
{Midway}
{Maid}

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:04 pm
by April Ludgate
I just don’t understand such hang up on Maria. If they’re scum, that’s going to sort itself out in a “Oh, that was much easier than I thought!” kind of way, so let’s focus outside of that.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:05 pm
by April Ludgate
I also don’t understand Zmuffin town reads.

Can someone explain why Zmuffin is so townie.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:07 pm
by Secret Tunnel
Im the top townread.

All is right with the world.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:13 pm
by Remilia Scarlet
In post 6526, morph the cat wrote:Ignoring shrodinger's conftown, my reads look like
{Secret Tunnels, 420.......zmuffinman........Bell} (never really expected 420 to be this high, but here we are)
{Remilia}
{Midway}
{Maid}
I don't know what the fuck to do with this
you won't see things from my angle and I feel like any time I engage you on 420 I get an open ended question that you don't explain anything about like "what do you make of x" rather than "this is what you need to see that you're not seeing"

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:13 pm
by midwaybear
In post 6525, April Ludgate wrote:We’re gonna have a double death eventually, so no fade is just anti productive.
How do you know we will have a double death?

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:15 pm
by Remilia Scarlet
In post 6528, April Ludgate wrote:I also don’t understand Zmuffin town reads.

Can someone explain why Zmuffin is so townie.
the righteous indignance of someone who realized you had the possibility of ruining the game w/ your lack of transparency about targets

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:17 pm
by morph the cat
Zmuffinman: no masterminding. No pushing to see that what he wants to happen happens. He's not subtly fanning the flames of multiple disagreements, and in fact he thoroughly ended the one huge fire once he saw no use in continuing it.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:19 pm
by April Ludgate
Okay. Okay, okay...i see, I see. Those are some pretty good reasons.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:20 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 6531, midwaybear wrote:
In post 6525, April Ludgate wrote:We’re gonna have a double death eventually, so no fade is just anti productive.
How do you know we will have a double death?
This guy ^ haha.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:20 pm
by Remilia Scarlet
In post 6518, April Ludgate wrote:Frankly, if they thought they weren’t going to be alone as scum in lylo, it does make sense.
someone is hammering me at lylo. I will insist upon it.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:21 pm
by April Ludgate
Okay.

Then it’s Midwaybear and Maid Cafe.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:22 pm
by morph the cat
In post 6530, Remilia Scarlet wrote:
In post 6526, morph the cat wrote:Ignoring shrodinger's conftown, my reads look like
{Secret Tunnels, 420.......zmuffinman........Bell} (never really expected 420 to be this high, but here we are)
{Remilia}
{Midway}
{Maid}
I don't know what the fuck to do with this
you won't see things from my angle and I feel like any time I engage you on 420 I get an open ended question that you don't explain anything about like "what do you make of x" rather than "this is what you need to see that you're not seeing"
I pointed directly at what caused my read to go solid. It's that he came into the game d3 missing key details about claims. Someone coming in with a fake protection wouldn't be so clueless about everything that had happened since his last appearance in the game thread. Even if he were phoning it in, his scum partner would have talked through the state of the game and the fact that there was an excellent chance town-us was getting elimed. Why derail that?

This involves a few facts that are in evidence to me and not necessarily in evidence to you, but this is the gamestate I see and this is how 420 engaged with and this makes no sense for scum.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:22 pm
by April Ludgate
Let’s lock it in.

I’ve played devil’s advocate as long as I could to make sure we didn’t have any missing cracks.

I’m satisfied calling the game on Midwaybear/Maid if you guys are.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:23 pm
by morph the cat
I asked you to look that part of the thread because I though you seeing that stuff if you read it again would be another brick in the Remilia townwall despite some chips that have occured.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:24 pm
by April Ludgate
Here’s the thing, I fully believe every single player in this game is capable of making a scum gambit on the level necessary to win here as scum, I just don’t think that’s happened? I genuinely can trust everyone who’s been talking as town, except Scumbear. And then Maid being out of the game, we were just town yelling at each other.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:25 pm
by April Ludgate
I put on my jester suit, starting dancing on stage, and eventually we just figured it out. :shrug:

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:26 pm
by Remilia Scarlet
In post 6538, morph the cat wrote:his scum partner would have talked through the state of the game and the fact that there was an excellent chance town-us was getting elimed. Why derail that?
So you think that scum both targeted you and 420 protected you
While also thinking that 420 has to be town because scum 420 would've had a partner that talked them out of claiming a protect on you because you were so mislynchable

and you don't see the cogdis in those two statements

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:27 pm
by morph the cat
In post 6529, Secret Tunnel wrote:Im the top townread.

All is right with the world.
<3

Go forth and win this game for me!

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:30 pm
by morph the cat
In post 6543, Remilia Scarlet wrote:
In post 6538, morph the cat wrote:his scum partner would have talked through the state of the game and the fact that there was an excellent chance town-us was getting elimed. Why derail that?
So you think that scum both targeted you and 420 protected you
While also thinking that 420 has to be town because scum 420 would've had a partner that talked them out of claiming a protect on you because you were so mislynchable

and you don't see the cogdis in those two statements
Either scum targeted me or they nokilled for some bizarro reason.

420's play fits the first scenario and doesn't fit the second one.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:33 pm
by Bell
In post 6531, midwaybear wrote:
In post 6525, April Ludgate wrote:We’re gonna have a double death eventually, so no fade is just anti productive.
How do you know we will have a double death?
You’re about to die and this is what you go with?

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:33 pm
by Remilia Scarlet
or we're just eating shit out of 420's hand because you've decided it's legitimate

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:34 pm
by midwaybear
I don't think I will die.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:36 pm
by April Ludgate
Midwaybear is alluding to partner Maid coming out and exploding ending the day before they can be faded.