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Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 2:13 pm
by BBmolla
I think that's ridiculous but okay

Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 2:45 pm
by ChriVi
BBmolla wrote:I think that's ridiculous but okay

You should hammer

Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 3:24 pm
by Bulbasaur Commonwealth
He doesn't think boon's scum, remember?

Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 4:01 pm
by ChriVi
Bulbasaur Commonwealth wrote:He doesn't think boon's scum, remember?

I'm aware.

Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 10:35 pm
by BBmolla
ChriVi wrote:
BBmolla wrote:I think that's ridiculous but okay

You should hammer

pass

Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 10:35 pm
by BBmolla
ChriVi wrote:
BBmolla wrote:I think that's ridiculous but okay

You should hammer

pass

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 2:41 am
by Bulbasaur Commonwealth
Should I be concerned about the speed of this wagon, or should I wait until we do get boon's flip?

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 6:05 am
by Cuttlefish
Vote Count 8.03

Boonskiies (4)
- Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Drixx, ChriVi, BRantz
Oranje Crush (2)
- Plotinus, BBmolla
Plotinus (1)
- Oranje Crush
Bulbasaur Commonwealth (1)
- Boonskiies

Not Voting (0)


With 8 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-05-14 23:05:07).

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 7:36 am
by Drixx
Bulbasaur Commonwealth wrote:Should I be concerned about the speed of this wagon, or should I wait until we do get boon's flip?


You made a convincing case. The only conftown is on the wagon. I'm on the wagon and Boonskiies "cleared" me. Whose vote are you concerned about?

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 7:44 am
by Plotinus
Intent to hammer.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 8:33 am
by Bulbasaur Commonwealth
Well, yesterday two votes piled on after me pretty quickly after I voted OC, and today boon jumped straight to L-1 in the span of a couple posts after I vote him. I feel like I should be nervous about that even if we're at 8 players left. I mean, if boon isn't scum and the nuked kill goes through, that puts us down to 6, and potentially without ChriVi as well. And if we're the ones getting nuked today ChriVi will absolutely die tonight unless scum isn't in their scumreads (Though I think they'll probably die anyways to avoid there being the "obvious" choice). At the absolute, ideal best we're looking at a 7-person Day 9 (only boon is lynched, no one's nuked, no one dies at night), and at worse it's going to be a 4-player Kingmaker (Boon lynched+1 other is nuked, two town die tonight).

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 9:09 am
by BRantz
I mean this has been a quick wagon, but the game had somewhat stalled for a while previous to the wagon which makes me think it is okay. Your scenario becomes true no matter who we lynch today (if they aren't scum) BC. So I don't think the wagon speed matters as much?

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 9:56 am
by Plotinus
Best case scenario: boon was the last scum, his innocents on oranje and driix were true, and he's hoping bulba will be mislynched. In this scenario devour was a twice after the last werewolf dies thing.

decent scenario: boon is town and his death leaves us with 3 conftowns (driix, oranje, chivri) which is more than can die in one night assuming only nuke from orbit and devoured are left which seems likely. one or two of those die during the night but we still have some left for the next day, perhaps enough that the last scum will be obvious.

another good scenario: boon was scum, there's one more left, less conftowns die during the night than otherwise would have, we figure things out together the next day.




I seem to remember that at some point, somebody mentioned that they lose stand offs -- it might have been oranje talking about his infinite commute that if it was just him and a mafia left then oranje would lose? I don't remember who it was, it might not have been oranje, I've tried searching a bunch of people's ISOs and text searching the thread for all the words i could think of and i didn't find it, but does anyone else remember anything like that which would imply the mods had thought about kingmaker situations and tried to avoid it?

i text searched for: kingmaker, stand off, stand-off, standoffs, lose, feel better

(the last one because i remember somebody else saying "oh that makes me feel better about your role" in response.)

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:08 am
by BBmolla
With the probable existence of an SK I wouldn't call them confirmed town except Chrivi.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:08 am
by BBmolla
Boonskiies where the flyign fuck are you dude

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:20 am
by Bulbasaur Commonwealth
Please tell me he's not trying to lurk out today.

BRantz wrote:I mean this has been a quick wagon, but the game had somewhat stalled for a while previous to the wagon which makes me think it is okay. Your scenario becomes true no matter who we lynch today (if they aren't scum) BC. So I don't think the wagon speed matters as much?

Maybe not, but it still has me worried.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:20 am
by Plotinus
@BBmolla: oh. because he's a mafia/not mafia cop. not an innocent/guilty cop. that's true.

how likely do you think it is that devour is a beyond the grave thing? i saw someone mention it earlier. maybe it's wishful thinking. Bulba speculated in that it could be a venge thing like elusive said, but elusive said her kill would be blown away when she was pretending to be vengeful (i think she was lying. we never saw a blown away kill.)

anyway it's almost bedtime so still intent to hammer but not going to do it tonight.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:44 am
by Drixx
Elusive was most likely trying to put in an explanation to explain further kills with there being more werewolves than just her slot. I think that was an obvious lie in hindsight.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:55 am
by Plotinus
i also think she was lying.

Drixx do you think devour is the last werewolf became superpowered, or a backup werewolf that didn't get activated until the last werewolf died (i saw a setup on the wiki that had a backup doctor so that's why i'm wondering about backup scum), or something else?

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 11:09 am
by Drixx
"Backup scum" would be alignment change and that's firmly into bastard territory. My best guess at the moment is that devour is either a limited shot enrage that gave the last werewolf some strongman kills when the others were dead or it's an SK who waited until the 2nd werewolf died to start killing in hopes that it would appear to be some kind of werewolf flavor and said SK could make it to the end.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 11:21 am
by Plotinus
That makes more sense. I guess the scenario I was thinking of would have them knowing from the start that they were backup but admittedly I didn't think it through very hard. I think the first might be more likely because Toon Fighter was devoured and she was doc protected.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 12:38 pm
by ChriVi
Plotinus wrote:That makes more sense. I guess the scenario I was thinking of would have them knowing from the start that they were backup but admittedly I didn't think it through very hard. I think the first might be more likely because Toon Fighter was devoured and she was doc protected.

Hammer hun.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 1:26 pm
by BBmolla
Bulbasaur Commonwealth wrote:Please tell me he's not trying to lurk out today.

I literally have classes with him, I don't know why the fuck he isn't posting.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 1:26 pm
by BBmolla
Previously it's because we've been crazy busy with a show

But shows over, get in here dude

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 4:03 pm
by ChriVi
BBmolla wrote:
Bulbasaur Commonwealth wrote:Please tell me he's not trying to lurk out today.

I literally have classes with him, I don't know why the fuck he isn't posting.

BBmolla wrote:Previously it's because we've been crazy busy with a show

But shows over, get in here dude

If you know he has time and he's still not in here

Then how far fetched is it to say he's lurking the game out and hoping we'll move onto someone else?