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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:37 am
by Taly
Aly are you trying to mindfuck me
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:38 am
by Taly
I'm becoming so burnt out with mafia man
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:40 am
by Taly
I officially hate being town in large themes.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:44 am
by Datisi
VOTE: alyssa
i just reread her posts around dance 2 start and like. she entered saying how shiro is locktown, then strated talking how it's either his pair flips first or last, and then she started talking about a shiro/galron possible team and how she's scared that's it and that's why she's willing to yeet shiro/harley
i know this doesn't fit perfectly with like, everything that has happened because there is still the "why does alyssa do what she did to andante if they're partners" but like, this game has officially reached the level of fucked i have to consider that. my gun to head crackpair is now alyssa/galron
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:46 am
by Datisi
and now she's saying that galron is town - like if there is anyone that's actually acting like they have a plan to win this game i would think that is that because my flip is almost unavoidable now and then there's gonna be the paranoia about ydrasse and
i could still be wrong on ydra/gl i guess but like i don't know what else to do
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:03 am
by Something_Smart
My individual reads look something like Alyssa > Galron > ??? > Ydrasse.
I can do an ISO dive of GL/Datisi, but I really don't feel like it would help... I have a pretty bad track record of reading both of them. There's a reason I was counting on you and Alyssa to lead here, and it's not (just) because I'm lazy.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:05 am
by Something_Smart
This setup is especially brutal. I'm sorry if the way I'm playing is increasing the pressure on you.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:08 am
by Something_Smart
In post 6578, Datisi wrote:she entered saying how shiro is locktown, then strated talking how it's either his pair flips first or last, and then she started talking about a shiro/galron possible team and how she's scared that's it and that's why she's willing to yeet shiro/harley
Why does she do the Shiro locktown bit at all as scum? That's a losecon if people start following her, and if nothing else it's something for Harley to jump on ("you said Shiro was locktown and now you're pushing him???").
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:11 am
by Datisi
because scum can't enter the game like "ok let's just yeet x and then let's yeet y cool thanks" and they have to fake progressions? like, i'm not gonna say i know exactly *why* but scum sometimes does shit necause they think it looks townie or just because they can so /shrug
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:12 am
by Taly
In post 6581, Something_Smart wrote:
This setup is especially brutal. I'm sorry if the way I'm playing is increasing the pressure on you.
No it's not you
I've just made 5p and 6p elo Slaughter Hour and Anything Upick only to get mislimmed in 1 while endgaming in another where I was snowed by a D1 tunnel that I lol-180'd on later and lost in both games.
Like I'm trying here.
I'm just not OK with feeling this uncertain as an IC so publicly when I've already got a shitty record lately. It doesn't help when people tell me they think less of my play abilities either.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:14 am
by Something_Smart
I think you're awesome and will still think that even if we lose.
What makes you feel something's wrong?
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:15 am
by Datisi
and besides, she started calling shiro scum with glaron like right after both shiro and harley started REALLY screaming for my and guiltylion's heads respectively so i don't think there way *any* danger in them turning against her there
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:15 am
by Datisi
btw, that is why my reaction to seeing taly was the ic was "thank the fucking rngesus it's not me"
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:16 am
by Something_Smart
That's true.
Was she really calling Galron scum? I don't remember that.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:16 am
by Something_Smart
In post 6587, Datisi wrote:btw, that is why my reaction to seeing taly was the ic was "thank the fucking rngesus it's not me"
This is why you rep in so you can be sure you aren't repping into an IC slot
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:17 am
by Datisi
In post 6326, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:specifically?
I can see a world where this exact type of thought process was what the scumteam were hoping for, and that makes the most sense in a Shiro/Galron world
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In post 6488, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:and obviously if only Shiro is scum, then I do think Galron is a viable partner for her as I've stated earlier
In post 6508, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:I feel better about Galron now, I was mostly worried about him because the way he was playing the start of second dance was giving more credence to the idea that it was an elaborate setup
but with Shiro being town that's a lot less likely to be the case
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:18 am
by Datisi
i put the "---" in the wrong spot but you get the idea
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:22 am
by Something_Smart
Right, it was all conditional on Shiro flipping scum. I guess I filtered that stuff out because it wasn't relevant before the flip.
I guess I should probably do a review of why I townread Alyssa at some point. Damn her ISO is long though
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:24 am
by Something_Smart
I don't think her stance on that pair is implausible coming from town, though. Like she was kinda right that it would have been way harder to vote them out later on.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:26 am
by Datisi
sure, that part is true - but if she thought shiro was actually locktown, how would that be a problem?
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:28 am
by Something_Smart
Well obviously she changed her mind.
I guess she can come in and talk about her thought process there more, that wouldn't hurt.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:43 am
by Alyssa The Lamb
In post 6573, Datisi wrote:i mean, the pairing i was thinking of pushing ended up being nightkilled, and i knew my pair was gonna be under pressure because of andante flipping red so like, idk what you expect from me there but it was always gonna be odd
I think this conversation is productive without my input atm
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:43 am
by Alyssa The Lamb
That quote was an accident
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:56 am
by Alyssa The Lamb
Independently though, I kinda feel like the perception of my alignment is kinda important at this stage so I'll engage into it
Main thing about it is how would you all expect me to approach this game from a scum pm? I can prove how I approach it with a town pm but I can't atm
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 6:42 am
by Ydrasse
i'm worthless this game