Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Fin

[petapan]

YDRASSE is TOWM



for the pagetop

[petapan]

Did Galron/Ydrasse read the event rules? It's clearly described as a duel to the death involving a gun, why vote yourselves in?

given that we don't know what the events actually,well, are, i'm kinda suspicious of people who intentionally seem to want access to them

what if i told you the last game i played as town was more or less this

i would tell you i explicitly do not care, because the fact that you can play like this as town does not mean that playing like this makes you town

and i have no reason to not want to kill you over who actually care about solving the game

okay next question

do you think ppl are ~actively scummier~ than me?

absence of towntelling =/= scumming and ive only seen "slightly scummy"

what's the purpose of this line of questioning @ydra

i had no real opinion on the wagons and voted gamma to make dueling wagons

- still hate teh gamma e1 vote
- i was under the impression u were strongly scumreading gamma, no? that's what you were telling me before

trying 2 gauge peta's headspace that's about it

thnx

here's some quotes. i'm getting tired now.

she still is shading ydrasse here. she keeps putting the pressure on. could it be setting up to look good from a teammate flip? maybe but in general skitter seems to have mostly been aggressively pushing town - it's a very different style from her on dunn or saber, where they get occasional shade in passing and not much else

[petapan]

i had no real opinion on the wagons and voted gamma to make dueling wagons

Early ISO you were giving minor jabs towards him 'his tone is stiff' 'being weird his votes' etc. with lead into a vote. Did they change and you decided to vote him anyways? What do you think of Peta playing hardball with you? I think Peta is someone is a opportunistic person and would use your own misgivings against you as scum. Do I think Peta is scum? Not sure but I'm not really gauging how you feel about everyone accusing you.

idk really

i think infinity's worse than peta but it could be peta? idk if he knows how to read me tho

i feel pretty meh towards the suspicion on me because i'm not doing a lot to reroute it so it's like why could i be mad at my accusers lol

probably scum pushing me atm

i had no real opinion on the wagons and voted gamma to make dueling wagons

- still hate teh gamma e1 vote
- i was under the impression u were strongly scumreading gamma, no? that's what you were telling me before

thats okay you can hate it if u want to

atm i dont remember what my reads even were d1 but im not sring gamma now, but i remember my vote was more for making the wagons even then it was a real care about who was elimmed

you were scumreading gamma
voted galron to prove a point and make a gamma counterwagon

the fact that you don't remember this is surface-level scummy but honestly probably more indicative of the fact that you're very out of it


~
also why are the people pushing you scum?

i don't think ydrasse ever answered this from skitter, probably because she didn't realize it was her

but i like ydrasse's response to skitter here, a lot - "thats okay you can hate it if u want to " doesn't feel like scum talking to a teammate, it's got that kind of "whatever" sass, scum just don't really think to speak to each other this way typically, they tend to be more...simplistic and deliberate? like anyone can tell a teammate they don't feel like talking to disengage. the specific way ydrasse does it makes it seem like she's just

done

with skitter.

[petapan]

i mean idk fmpov it's like

i'm not doing a lot but i'm not doing a lot that's scummy either so ... the people who are being pushed on a lot might be scum + the people pushing me are looking for ways to not be on partners

Like i guess i see this but kinda like I said above u also know ur not playing in a way that would gef u townread so from ur pov i'm not sure u shouod be finding it odd or scummy that people scumread you

and again she comes back to pressuring ydrasse


that's page 1 of the iso, which feels like a good time for me to call it a night

(trying to read skitter's iso is such a pain in the ass)

[petapan]

and again this is like a ton of posts attacking ydrasse and skitter had like, 6 posts of minor shade at dunn and saber combined

[Taly]

This my off day hit me up with questions and I'll get to it hehe

[Taly]

Peta pleadeddj

Don't let ggy mislim meeee

Kidnof drunk

lol i am gonna find drunkposting stuff scummy

ooo dw I'll do it tons more just for you

[Taly]

Tbh I felt worse about you than Ydrasse while rereading last night and this morning

But wait

Why am I second in the ordering then?

Ggy you make the less sense the more you post

And yes I already ready this post yesterday but like ???

[Taly]

Omg fuck phoneposting damn spelling errors

[Taly]

ur a good birb Taly

have some dogpics

Spoiler: leafdog

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Executive doggie

[Taly]

WTF?

I SAID "EEEEE CUTIE DOGGIE"

[Taly]

TWEETIE!!

What happens if both nominees TIE in number of

"Yays"

?

Do they both die? Is it because of the nom order? Do they both survive?

The player who was the earliest in nomination order will die in the case of a tie.

Was this information something you asked for Ggy?

I guess you nor the mod can answer and if so that's fine but like

Why risk Ydra first if your conclusion points more toward me?

You even said (or implied from my POV) in the Heaven PT that I was the most likely partner to Titus outside of {Cakez/Ulya} group.

[Taly]

Also I'll reply to your post about Cakez probably tomorrow Ggy

Tbh I leeching off of rereading the game via Peta so it's not like I have to :EFFORT: too much

[Gammagooey]

I'd like to see some posting from GE+Ydrasse about who they would have put up if they got to be ruler, who they think is most likely scum, etc (Ydrasse I think was planning on going over some stuff today)

One thing I noticed was after GE's Throne event basically everyone who was posting in the pages immediately afterwards is now either flipped town or Ydrasse - skitter+saber+dunn were nowhere to be seen until I think 5 or so votes were already on sparing Gamma. I want to lean that scum wanted to hang back and get a feel for how Gemerald's posting was being responded to before committing to spare/execute, but also ya'll are hyperposters and those several pages of words were all within an hour or two of each other so it'd be at least reasonable that the individual players just weren't around until the wagon had already formed. But at the very least it wasn't skitter+saber planning to come in fast & hard to save Gemerald after getting him the throne.

@Taly - Can you try to guide me through your thoughts on Gamma Emerald early game and how they changed (or didn't) with the Throne event? I wouldn't mind some of your earlier thoughts in regards to how your read on skitter progressed too.
Also did you ever follow up with skitter on your 1646 question in here?

Nah, Galron may be dealing drugs on the side but Gamma is the shining stagehand. I implore you to vote him.

Is it impossible that both wagons have been largely town-led regardless of Gamma/Galron's alignment? It's almost a distraction to consider what the scumteam as a whole could be doing D1 in this game because they have more information of the chair than the rest of plist.

What do you think the scum has been doing this game?

so from your pov what have scum been doing this phase?

Matadoring Gamma's wagon.

i'm gonna take a rain check and come back to these, i'm sorry, i just can't string together words coherently rn
but will circle back and respond when i can

~
more broadly since we're at a pretty game-critical point, i prefer galron over gamma. i think they can be svs, but i do think galron is almost certainly s and would prefer him
i'm very underwhelmed by dunn but don't know if that ai for him, also think it would be a disappointing way to end the day if we ended up flipping him while we have this gamma/galron thing going on

hopefully i'll be able to say more abt this later

pedit i'll come back to that one too

p.s. i swear even when nobody has posted for hours i still get multiple posts popping up before I finish a single post

ur a good birb Taly

have some dogpics

Spoiler: leafdog

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Executive doggie

too late he now owns 3 businesses and is planning to axe all TV advertising in favor of smell-based alternatives

[Taly]

I'm never going to scumread Cakez ever again

0/10

Pedit

I'll get to that SOOOON ggy

Me relax today

[Taly]

I'm honestly tilted idk if Peta is even reading Me/Gammagooey interactions.

[Gammagooey]

TWEETIE!!

What happens if both nominees TIE in number of

"Yays"

?

Do they both die? Is it because of the nom order? Do they both survive?

The player who was the earliest in nomination order will die in the case of a tie.

Was this information something you asked for Ggy?

I guess you nor the mod can answer and if so that's fine but like

Why risk Ydra first if your conclusion points more toward me?

You even said (or implied from my POV) in the Heaven PT that I was the most likely partner to Titus outside of {Cakez/Ulya} group.

imo it was pretty obvious from the

At least one player must die.

part of the rules that the mod wouldn't allow something dumb like tying the vote to let both players live

Ydrasse is first because I assumed that most people in the heaven PT were fairly confident in their townreads of everyone in there given how little discussion there was of both putting people in the heaven PT and nobody except me expressing any suspicion of anyone in it while we were voting on the ruler. The thing I wanted to avoid was:

-Taly is first, is passed over+lives
-Ydrasse is second, is executed and flips town
-I am sad and annoyed

[Gammagooey]

Also I'll reply to your post about Cakez probably tomorrow Ggy

Tbh I leeching off of rereading the game via Peta so it's not like I have to :EFFORT: too much

I don't really have a post about Cakez recently? The one that mentions him near the end is just "would gamma emerald do these things as scum such as cross Cakez instead of Fire" and its mostly directed towards peta, but if you feel POWERFULLY CONFIDENT about it your answer is fine too. if not prob don't worry about it

[Gammagooey]

Also I'll reply to your post about Cakez probably tomorrow Ggy

Tbh I leeching off of rereading the game via Peta so it's not like I have to :EFFORT: too much

I don't really have a post about Cakez recently? The one that mentions him near the end is just "would gamma emerald do these things as scum such as cross Cakez instead of Fire" and its mostly directed towards peta, but if you feel POWERFULLY CONFIDENT about it your answer is fine too. if not prob don't worry about it

wait I'm a dumbass you're talking about this post aren't you
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13121528

nevermind carry on

[petapan]

I'm honestly tilted idk if Peta is even reading Me/Gammagooey interactions.

i just woke up but i put basically 0 weight on realtime interactions this phase with 1 scum left

[petapan]

i mean basically in heaven my brain was switched off, i wanted Titus and cakez flipped and that was it. i could have dug into the stuff i'm doing now w/r/t skitter in the prior phases but i didn't really want to reread everyone. the HQ affair really did make me not want to interact with the game a ton and i'm sort of realizing it now how out of it i was, plus just wanting to wait for flips on suspects

[Ydrasse]

*inhale* i have been sick for like two weeks i cannot sleep but today i will try to carve our a chunk of this game given time restraints

i'm going to go over the hell pt and share what i think is useful now. a lot of it is just us 4 going back and forth over what the best mechanical choice is for town and how to achieve it and our reads on /each other/ which i don't think matter anymore because we have all the flips, and content about people in heaven was... very sparse so, that's the easiest place to start for little ydrasse

[petapan]

anyway, taly, if you want to discuss gammagooey, you're going to have to go back in the game, not talk about stuff he's doing this phase


because in my eyes it feels very unlikely the scumteam goes that hard on bussing galron/unwnd in the early game, and from the stuff i've caught in my backread i don't really see it

[Ydrasse]

- i just want to flex a little bit because on page one i was saying if titus was scum she had a partner set up well in heaven and just wanted to drag everyone down. my mind was active and my third eye open

- titus was really on one in there because she literally said if we thought she was scum, AND UNLESS HER PARTNER WAS IN HEAVEN, that we should still do the dumb suboptimal thing and not save anyone because ~two scum in hell guys teehee~ and force her to be killed. lol.

- sircakez didn't really think there was any scum in heaven and he had a dream that everyone in hell died and town won. at the very end though when i pushed him to give me something to share he said look at gammagooey and peta.

- ulyana thought gamma emerald was scum but this wasn't expanded on, just said like, she tried to not save him post event-1

--

that's it for the hell pt that's relevant now. titus basically didn't give us anything readswise beyond the reads of people in the hell pt and was really obtuse/frustrating to talk to about the mechanics and spent her entire time pushing 2 scum in the hell pt, and then the rest of us spent a lot of time just figuring each other out. jazz hands.

[Ydrasse]

also @taly: i don't really... get a lot from the summary you provided about the heaven pt it's a bit too playful/theatric for me to get the gist of it i guess? like beyond the obvious