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In post 6621, Ydrasse wrote:*inhale* i have been sick for like two weeks i cannot sleep but today i will try to carve our a chunk of this game given time restraints

i'm going to go over the hell pt and share what i think is useful now. a lot of it is just us 4 going back and forth over what the best mechanical choice is for town and how to achieve it and our reads on /each other/ which i don't think matter anymore because we have all the flips, and content about people in heaven was... very sparse so, that's the easiest place to start for little ydrasse

well, if you've seen my recent spree of posts i'm now extremely confident on you being town

so when you get a chance you can help me out

In post 6625, petapan wrote:

In post 6621, Ydrasse wrote:*inhale* i have been sick for like two weeks i cannot sleep but today i will try to carve our a chunk of this game given time restraints

i'm going to go over the hell pt and share what i think is useful now. a lot of it is just us 4 going back and forth over what the best mechanical choice is for town and how to achieve it and our reads on /each other/ which i don't think matter anymore because we have all the flips, and content about people in heaven was... very sparse so, that's the easiest place to start for little ydrasse

well, if you've seen my recent spree of posts i'm now extremely confident on you being town

so when you get a chance you can help me out

i have went to lengths i have never went to for this towngame i'm colorcoding posts going back from the start trying to read you will never get this level of investment from town ydrasse again. today you have found a powerful ally and when this sudafed vanquishes my plague i shall be truly unshackled.

the only thing is is that i don't know if i have the wherewithal/self-faith to live over taly >_< but also taly and gooey are going at it a bit so um... you know.

i do not mind gladiating V hE dOnT sCaRe Me

once of us has to die tho :<

the haeven pt was 3 pages and we basically sleepwalked through it, there was some jockeying for nominating a ruler (we didn't know what the ruler would do), but not much scumhunting. gooey voted gemerald and GE voted taly, i dragged my feet and said gammagooey was my most confident townread and gooey voted himself, i followed

was some discussion of contingencies on the flips and that was it, then we shared some songs because gammagooey asked and waited on hell to resolve

In post 6619, petapan wrote:

In post 6615, Taly wrote:I'm honestly tilted idk if Peta is even reading Me/Gammagooey interactions.

i just woke up but i put basically 0 weight on realtime interactions this phase with 1 scum left

In post 6622, petapan wrote:anyway, taly, if you want to discuss gammagooey, you're going to have to go back in the game, not talk about stuff he's doing this phase


because in my eyes it feels very unlikely the scumteam goes that hard on bussing galron/unwnd in the early game, and from the stuff i've caught in my backread i don't really see it

i have the exact opposite view but on BOTH of these posts but fine

In post 6626, Ydrasse wrote:

In post 6625, petapan wrote:

In post 6621, Ydrasse wrote:*inhale* i have been sick for like two weeks i cannot sleep but today i will try to carve our a chunk of this game given time restraints

i'm going to go over the hell pt and share what i think is useful now. a lot of it is just us 4 going back and forth over what the best mechanical choice is for town and how to achieve it and our reads on /each other/ which i don't think matter anymore because we have all the flips, and content about people in heaven was... very sparse so, that's the easiest place to start for little ydrasse

well, if you've seen my recent spree of posts i'm now extremely confident on you being town

so when you get a chance you can help me out

i have went to lengths i have never went to for this towngame i'm colorcoding posts going back from the start trying to read you will never get this level of investment from town ydrasse again. today you have found a powerful ally and when this sudafed vanquishes my plague i shall be truly unshackled.

oh same i am never going this hard as town ever again lmfao

In post 6629, Ydrasse wrote:once of us has to die tho :<

honestly

i would not mind dying if it gave confidence in elo

...

and ill never repeat this statement or make another one like it in a game ever.

becauase my brain is like ???? at the thought of knowing im town and falling over for a strong townread but if im correct on , town is inevitability taking an L and i am doing nothing but damage control.

also im copying tone and syntax, it's actually quite relaxing when there's real substance in the posts.

In post 6631, Taly wrote:

In post 6619, petapan wrote:

In post 6615, Taly wrote:I'm honestly tilted idk if Peta is even reading Me/Gammagooey interactions.

i just woke up but i put basically 0 weight on realtime interactions this phase with 1 scum left

In post 6622, petapan wrote:anyway, taly, if you want to discuss gammagooey, you're going to have to go back in the game, not talk about stuff he's doing this phase


because in my eyes it feels very unlikely the scumteam goes that hard on bussing galron/unwnd in the early game, and from the stuff i've caught in my backread i don't really see it

i have the exact opposite view but on BOTH of these posts but fine

i mean for the first one you're not going to change my view of how to play the game that i've developed over 11 years

In post 6634, petapan wrote:

In post 6631, Taly wrote:

In post 6619, petapan wrote:

In post 6615, Taly wrote:I'm honestly tilted idk if Peta is even reading Me/Gammagooey interactions.

i just woke up but i put basically 0 weight on realtime interactions this phase with 1 scum left

In post 6622, petapan wrote:anyway, taly, if you want to discuss gammagooey, you're going to have to go back in the game, not talk about stuff he's doing this phase


because in my eyes it feels very unlikely the scumteam goes that hard on bussing galron/unwnd in the early game, and from the stuff i've caught in my backread i don't really see it

i have the exact opposite view but on BOTH of these posts but fine

i mean for the first one you're not going to change my view of how to play the game that i've developed over 11 years

and mine over 7 years.

so i am compromising

In post 6629, Ydrasse wrote:once of us has to die tho :<

all the more reason to make the most of it, doll!

what's on your mind?

just thinking about the logistics of whose survival is better

hell pt 2.0

i discovered it is, in fact, very hard for me to actually accept dying in situations like these even if i townread the other person because i need to know they can do /enough/ to win the game and i think i have very high standards for that in this game but like, what can i do to carry this game on the other hand

how confident are you currently in your reads ?

actually that question doesn't matter to me atm because i don't know if i would be able to confidently agree/disagree with the reads you gave so like, meh

In post 6638, Ydrasse wrote:i discovered it is, in fact, very hard for me to actually accept dying in situations like these even if i townread the other person because i need to know they can do /enough/ to win the game and i think i have very high standards for that in this game but like, what can i do to carry this game on the other hand

how confident are you currently in your reads ?

Ydrasse wrote:actually that question doesn't matter to me atm because i don't know if i would be able to confidently agree/disagree with the reads you gave so like, meh

confident enough to confront post-game if he's actually town because I'm shocked.

and i love questions, so i still answer ;D

hmm

i dont know what to ask

also, i think if i was the ruler i would have put up gamma emerald + 1.

funnily enough i actually used gammagooey though as an example of what i thought was doing towny things (the skitter push) when explaining to ulyana what iw anted wrt what she did that was towny but i spent a little bit of last night wondering if the accuracy of identifying skitter's exact way of derailing was just like, a moment of exceptional precociousness or just bussing, lol. will reread blue pt today at least since the majority of alive people were in there and it's an Important snippet.

imagine a 5-headed hydra

In post 6613, Gammagooey wrote:I'd like to see some posting from GE+Ydrasse about who they would have put up if they got to be ruler, who they think is most likely scum, etc (Ydrasse I think was planning on going over some stuff today)

I feel like I would have put up you/Ydrasse, or maybe you/peta
I don’t rlly think peta is scum rn tho, but that’s somewhat off the back of some of the stuff he’s done in this phase
I don’t really recall this singular focus of his on past interactions ever coming up this way in FGO 2

In post 6640, Taly wrote:
confident enough to confront

Ggy

post-game if he's actually town because I'm shocked.

I still straight don't get why you're scumreading me aside from this post

In post 6435, Taly wrote:

In post 6430, Gammagooey wrote:hello hello

the nominees are Ydrasse followed by Taly, which shouldn't really be a surprise to anyone except maybe Ydrasse given the Heaven PT

my instinct is that yeeting them both wins the game because GE and peta seem very obvtown for how scum played in regards to GE's wagon d1 and how skitter+Saber played against peta plus peta

guessed as much

really dont want to tunnel you here as i want to read thoroughly

but your progression on me this game aligns perfectly with what ive seen come from scum in previous games when im a final or next-to-final mislim.

i really want you to justify yourself, and i dont mean scumcasing me.

youve brought up many points on why i am good for thread health but youve never directly given an opinion of me via my own posting. its based a lot on everything around me.

its a stiff progression and im frustrated if youre town here.

like it feels like you're ignoring literally everything I've done prior to the heaven PT which seems nuts to me

I can get away with playing differently today because I literally can't die today, and I'm taking advantage of that to some extent, mostly to fuck off and try to let other people breathe and reread and try to come to their own conclusions about the game and see how they do so. I've put in the work to yeet the people I was confident in being scum and am out of CONFIDENT scum reads, and I think the game works better if people have to push for what they believe is the right choice on their own instead of letting other people dominate the game and rely on them to get everything right themselves.

Why did you take the ruler position when you originally wanted ?

In retrospect, it just feels like your motivation was just to counter my expressed desire for ruler.

And I don't think the post you just quoted is insignificant. I detailed in several posts why I had an issue with your mentality here, and it feels like the mentality you were paranoid of having in the PT.

Like, you're not being fair.

And honestly, to say that my suspicion of you stems from just that one post trivializes my other interactions with you this event that illustrated why I don't follow your POV here. Including the implied distrust of my slot since the crossing.

I can understand why you suspect me.

I do not see how town approaches this suspicion in the way that you have had in your position.

Like, this gamestate is never conducive for my survival if I were scum.

Why would I 180 my trajectory on you , AFTER putting my beak on the line - knowing that I could very easily die over or another player?

To suggest I'm scum after my Heaven PT play would be to believe that I gamethrowed.

I'm not a risky scum player.

And yes, you HAVE suggested that I am scum because you've expressed a notion to eliminate BOTH for a win when you KNOW one or even BOTH of us are town.

In post 6647, Taly wrote:And yes, you HAVE suggested that I am scum because you've expressed a notion to eliminate BOTH Me/Ydra for a win when you KNOW one or even BOTH of us are town.

Seriously, if you're town and I'm so misled on you, you need to refute THIS premise or I will consider it a scumclaim.

And also, why aren't you defending ?

You wanted them to be a ruler. Both have expressed that they want him under scrutiny and would likely eliminate him in elo.

So why aren't you trying to steer their perception toward a solve you likeliest see between OR me?

I have an answer, but I'm wanting to see yours.