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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:15 am
by Titus
Here's where I am at on Enchant...

If they're town, I am going to feel like a dumbass because they might start listening.
If they're a serial killer, then Nero likely stopped them from a smart shot or Enchant blocked.
If they're mafia, then they'll just keep throwing out town names to create dissent.

If I think they're SK, then my proper approach is to die fighting regardless. The problem is if I ever do swing the tide, Enchant just turns on me.

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:16 am
by Titus
Mafia, they'll be outed.

Town, they'll shoot someone.

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:17 am
by Titus
Enchant as SK has every motive to keep me alive to ensure that another lim always comes first.

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:26 am
by MathBlade
If Enchant is SK he’s forced to shoot scum tonight

I don’t really care if Enchant is SK

We need mafia.

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:26 am
by MathBlade
Who is mafia Titus?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:28 am
by Titus
In post 6628, MathBlade wrote:If Enchant is SK he’s forced to shoot scum tonight

I don’t really care if Enchant is SK

We need mafia.
According to you, that's a problem unless SK denied his shots.

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:29 am
by Titus
In post 6629, MathBlade wrote:Who is mafia Titus?
Looking into it. I'll want to wall everyone.

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:33 am
by Save The Dragons
In post 6593, Enchant wrote:Imo STD blatant scum, literally no one cares about them.
no one cares about me? ;~;

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:34 am
by MathBlade
In post 6632, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 6593, Enchant wrote:Imo STD blatant scum, literally no one cares about them.
no one cares about me? ;~;
I think you’re town and I care about town.

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:35 am
by fireisredsir
same

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:36 am
by Save The Dragons
yay

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:37 am
by Titus
In post 6543, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6538, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 6536, April Ludgate wrote:
Nero Cain (4): VP Baltar,
fireisredsir, Enchant, Scorpious

Let's talk about this one, since you 3 are the ones here.

Do you guys think this is a possible all 4 town on Nero wagon, especially considering a Nero wagon would have been a better misfade for scum than VPB who was just hanging on?

This likely means VPB was a better misfade for scum, meaning one of VPB's pushes were likely correct. VPB's pushes were Nero and Frog.

Frogster's comment saying people were gonna start pairing VPB/Frogster up was odd to me, and it's what really started to get me to feel that way. I read it wrong, but I think feeling the offness makes sense coming from FrogsterScum.

Now, that kind of defense feels eerily similar to a ScumKill on Nero, which had the potential to setup a Frogster/Cape 1v1, which means that the neighborhood could be all town.

I think Frogster has more scum equity than Cape.

Frogster/Enchant/Titus/DV

is my current solve. The further to the back, the less sure I am, but the front 2 feel pretty good for me.
I think swap out Enchant or DV for Cape and this is viable

No way scum don’t have a person in that four player hood with TPR that has flipped
Right now, I am leaning

Frogster town because scum rush through VP if they felt Frogster wagon was a threat
Enchant town or SK.
Cape town based on Math's improper push on Cape.
DV scum based on no wagon traction.
One of Fire/April scum because they should know how obvtown it is to stand up to Math.
Math is sixth mafia.
Tene town
Eyes dies unless they contribute
Scorpious lean opportunistic scum. Sheeps me when he knows I am voiceless and then capitalizes on frustration and knowing scum wanted the day to go on gorever.

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:37 am
by Titus
This is probably scum rather than town Nero saved or Enchant being blocked.

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:42 am
by Save The Dragons
what

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:42 am
by MathBlade
I kinda think Enchant is SK more I think about it.
DV reason is bad lmao.

No wagons got hardly any traction ever. That’s why VP seemed scum when Malcolm wagon popped up.

Now my push is “improper” why? Lmao
One of fire/April I can actually agree with

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:43 am
by April Ludgate
Or Enchant is groupscum.

Third option.

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:44 am
by Scorpious
In post 6636, Titus wrote:Scorpious lean opportunistic scum. Sheeps me when he knows I am voiceless and then capitalizes on frustration
I was sheeping you until you called it creepy, which is kinda RL stuff, so I just backed off..

I was also very clear about my vote. Don;t be mad cause it happened to be you

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:44 am
by April Ludgate
In post 6637, Titus wrote:
This is probably scum rather than town Nero saved or Enchant being blocked.
In post 6640, April Ludgate wrote:Or Enchant is groupscum.

Third option.
I don’t hate the SK theory, but I don’t think it’s Occam’s razor, even if it is a SK.
It’s definitely on the table, though

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:45 am
by April Ludgate
This could be ScumTitus sowing doubt for a town Enchant for a future misfade.

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:46 am
by Titus
In post 6639, MathBlade wrote:I kinda think Enchant is SK more I think about it.
DV reason is bad lmao.

No wagons got hardly any traction ever. That’s why VP seemed scum when Malcolm wagon popped up.

Now my push is “improper” why? Lmao
One of fire/April I can actually agree with
Your foundation is still bad. Although the math odds, with Nero's death go up in the hood to 100%.

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:46 am
by MathBlade
In post 6644, Titus wrote:
In post 6639, MathBlade wrote:I kinda think Enchant is SK more I think about it.
DV reason is bad lmao.

No wagons got hardly any traction ever. That’s why VP seemed scum when Malcolm wagon popped up.

Now my push is “improper” why? Lmao
One of fire/April I can actually agree with
Your foundation is still bad. Although the math odds, with Nero's death go up in the hood to 100%.
Rewrite please you’re missing words.

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:47 am
by April Ludgate
In post 6636, Titus wrote:One of Fire/April scum because they should know how obvtown it is to stand up to Math.
dont really like this, because this was one of the main reasons I was town reading you all game, as I brought up yesterday and Fire was the one actively convincing me otherwise.

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:47 am
by Titus
In post 6643, April Ludgate wrote:This could be ScumTitus sowing doubt for a town Enchant for a future misfade.
Totally from your perspective.

If I'm scum, everything I have said or done is wifom to you. It's not but still

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:49 am
by Titus
In post 6645, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6644, Titus wrote:
In post 6639, MathBlade wrote:I kinda think Enchant is SK more I think about it.
DV reason is bad lmao.

No wagons got hardly any traction ever. That’s why VP seemed scum when Malcolm wagon popped up.

Now my push is “improper” why? Lmao
One of fire/April I can actually agree with
Your foundation is still bad. Although the math odds, with Nero's death go up in the hood to 100%.
Rewrite please you’re missing words.
Your assumption was that VP Nero or Cape had to have a scum. I told you this was bad. VP and Nero are both dead and flipped town. If your assumption is correct, then Cape is scum.

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:50 am
by April Ludgate
UNVOTE: Titus

Agh. I hope I'm not all flipped up again. I can't do what I did to VPB last day phase. I had him correct as town, and I still turned. I think the same thing is happening with Titus. In my heart, I feel they are town.


Is ScumFire in my head? Is this what's happening this game?

VOTE: Frogster