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Post Post #6625 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:02 pm

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I'm open to being convinced but tonight I will sleep on it.

I understand a town consensus day1 vote but we are in a 1v1.

I believe ceph did this for townie reasons but I don't think it ended up with a great vote even if taly was my top in his list.

This day is too long because bullshit spam, not because taly is at fault.

I'll read reasons I should vote anyway tomorrow but tonight I'm out.
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Post Post #6626 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:03 pm

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In post 6616, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 6613, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 6608, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i think Frogster spewed Taly/Ceph both town
How is Ceph spewed town?
cuz frogster is scum and his initial reaction to gladiate was to "sleep on the choice" which means he's thinking about which townflip puts him in a better position tommorrow.
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Post Post #6627 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:03 pm

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In post 6626, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 6616, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 6613, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 6608, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i think Frogster spewed Taly/Ceph both town
How is Ceph spewed town?
cuz frogster is scum and his initial reaction to gladiate was to "sleep on the choice" which means he's thinking about which townflip puts him in a better position tommorrow.
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Post Post #6628 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:03 pm

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VOTE: Taly
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Post Post #6629 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:03 pm

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In post 6624, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:frogster!scum is literally over there doing a happy jig that he's no longer under heat today and there's a tvt gladiate going on

ceph+taly r both town

just no lim and we kill frog tommorrow
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Post Post #6630 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:04 pm

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In post 6628, Bell wrote:VOTE: Taly
frogster could literally shove his role pm in your face and you still wouldn't get it
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Post Post #6631 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:04 pm

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In post 6624, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:frogster!scum is literally over there doing a happy jig that he's no longer under heat today and there's a tvt gladiate going on

ceph+taly r both town

just no lim and we kill frog tommorrow
But didn’t Ceph save him with the gladiate?
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Post Post #6632 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:04 pm

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Fine. Frogster is scum and I'll go after them tomorrow if they aren't shot. I'll turn off my burn and auto kill them.
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Post Post #6633 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:04 pm

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In post 6627, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 6626, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 6616, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 6613, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 6608, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i think Frogster spewed Taly/Ceph both town
How is Ceph spewed town?
cuz frogster is scum and his initial reaction to gladiate was to "sleep on the choice" which means he's thinking about which townflip puts him in a better position tommorrow.
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because I don't think he's smart enough to put on a show
You mock and it comes from a place of pain
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Post Post #6634 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:05 pm

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anyway I'm going to log off and prodge for the rest of the day because if I log in Frogster is just going to keep taunting me with his bullshit because he knows I can't kill him today and his only goal is to piss me off.

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Post Post #6635 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:06 pm

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In post 6631, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 6624, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:frogster!scum is literally over there doing a happy jig that he's no longer under heat today and there's a tvt gladiate going on

ceph+taly r both town

just no lim and we kill frog tommorrow
But didn’t Ceph save him with the gladiate?

i'm not reading cephrir I'm reading frogster.

his reaction is gloating scum who is very happy that one townie gladiated another townie and saved him.
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Post Post #6636 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:06 pm

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Good night Pooky.
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Post Post #6637 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:06 pm

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In post 6632, Bell wrote:Fine. Frogster is scum and I'll go after them tomorrow if they aren't shot. I'll turn off my burn and auto kill them.
Then unvote Taly. Pooky’s literally telling you they’re confitown.
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Post Post #6638 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:07 pm

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Please shoot MB tonight and we'll vote Froggy tomorrow.
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Post Post #6639 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:07 pm

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Tldr; Pooky is upset because he and Math spewed scum while trying to push a mislim through on me
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Post Post #6640 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:07 pm

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In post 6637, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 6632, Bell wrote:Fine. Frogster is scum and I'll go after them tomorrow if they aren't shot. I'll turn off my burn and auto kill them.
Then unvote Taly. Pooky’s literally telling you they’re confitown.
No, they aren't.
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Post Post #6641 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:08 pm

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In post 6638, Bell wrote:Please shoot MB tonight and we'll vote Froggy tomorrow.
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Post Post #6642 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:10 pm

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In post 6639, Frogsterking wrote:Tldr; Pooky is upset because he and Math spewed scum while trying to push a mislim through on me
You pushed a miselim on Taly or are trying to but whether Bell gets it or not, Taly is now locktown.
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Post Post #6643 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:11 pm

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Move game forward. Vote Taly let people cool off and think their thoughts.

Unless someone was informed by the mo that Taly is town please push it through so that we can find out if they're scum. It will of course do little good beyond their own death if they are.
On the otherhand, there is not much like a disadvantage to them dying.
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Post Post #6644 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:13 pm

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In post 6643, Bell wrote:Move game forward. Vote Taly let people cool off and think their thoughts.

Unless someone was informed by the mo that Taly is town please push it through so that we can find out if they're scum. It will of course do little good beyond their own death if they are.
On the otherhand, there is not much like a disadvantage to them dying.
I know Taly and I’m telling you this isn’t their scumgame.
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Post Post #6645 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:13 pm

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I don't so I'm going to kill them ok?
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Post Post #6646 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:15 pm

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In post 6625, Rad wrote:I'm open to being convinced but tonight I will sleep on it.

I understand a town consensus day1 vote but we are in a 1v1.

I believe ceph did this for townie reasons but I don't think it ended up with a great vote even if taly was my top in his list.

This day is too long because bullshit spam, not because taly is at fault.

I'll read reasons I should vote anyway tomorrow but tonight I'm out.
Rad, taking a shot is always the right play.

Hell, in most games, if the day approaches deadline on Day 1, self hammering to ensure that an elim passes is better then letting the timer run out and no elimination happen. Like that is a scenario written on the wiki page for self-voting presented as the time when it might be positive to do an otherwise bad thing.
In any case in which another elimination is still possible, it is almost always anti-town to self-hammer. However, if the day's deadline is imminent, a No Elimination would be statistically worse for town, and no other options are available, it can be appropriate for the player to self-hammer, providing the town with some information from that day, and preventing their likely elimination on future days.
A No Elimination is worse for town then literally self-voting, killing the only player in the game that is mod confirmed town to you (yourself).

And both Ceph and Taly have a non-zero chance of being scum. They both have multiple people scum reading them. Either one of them dying would be better then no one dying.
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Post Post #6647 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:16 pm

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Theres been 50 pages since I last checked and I read none of it. Anything important?
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Post Post #6648 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:17 pm

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In post 6646, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 6625, Rad wrote:I'm open to being convinced but tonight I will sleep on it.

I understand a town consensus day1 vote but we are in a 1v1.

I believe ceph did this for townie reasons but I don't think it ended up with a great vote even if taly was my top in his list.

This day is too long because bullshit spam, not because taly is at fault.

I'll read reasons I should vote anyway tomorrow but tonight I'm out.
Rad, taking a shot is always the right play.

Hell, in most games, if the day approaches deadline on Day 1, self hammering to ensure that an elim passes is better then letting the timer run out and no elimination happen. Like that is a scenario written on the wiki page for self-voting presented as the time when it might be positive to do an otherwise bad thing.
In any case in which another elimination is still possible, it is almost always anti-town to self-hammer. However, if the day's deadline is imminent, a No Elimination would be statistically worse for town, and no other options are available, it can be appropriate for the player to self-hammer, providing the town with some information from that day, and preventing their likely elimination on future days.
A No Elimination is worse for town then literally self-voting, killing the only player in the game that is mod confirmed town to you (yourself).

And both Ceph and Taly have a non-zero chance of being scum. They both have multiple people scum reading them. Either one of them dying would be better then no one dying.
No it isn’t. In Happy Face Titus was gladiated but once we all realized she was town, we all voted no gladiate and it was 100% the right decision not to help out scum with a miselim.
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Post Post #6649 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:18 pm

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In post 6647, Klick wrote:Theres been 50 pages since I last checked and I read none of it. Anything important?
All you need to know is that Ceph Gladiated Taly.

Vote Ceph or Taly.

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