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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:30 am
by Flubbernugget
%hats all ive caught up %o

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:33 am
by podoboq
In post 6649, Flubbernugget wrote:Podo I don't believe for a minute you left that"crumb" with the intent of scum picking it up
Again, Cakez and Marquis played a game with me where as vanilla town, I made basically the same play. It's one of my two completed games on site. If they don't want to comment on it, I can go find the page in that game where it happens.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:57 am
by podoboq
Found it! In case people find it interesting.
In post 1189, podoboq wrote:As for you reading me as a cop, I have something I should confess. At the end of the last day phase, I was honestly trying to fake being a pr.
In post 978, podoboq wrote:For what it matters, if my role conflicted with NLR's role here, I would not counterclaim,
because this lynch is obvious to me, and it is not worth getting an actual PR killed in order to confirm that NLR is scum.


Also, just to be clear,
THIS IS NOT A COUNTERCLAIM.
I was hoping this would be read as "wink wink nudge nudge, I'm actually the cop, I KNOW that NLR is lying." I was hoping scum would kill me in the night, and that the pr would survive. I was even expecting to die, and posted some last words in case I did.

I don't know if faking being the pr is something that town normally does here, because this is my first game on mafiascum, but I was confident that it was the right play to make. It has the benefit of protecting the actual pr if scum believes me, and has the benefit of convincing town that we are right to move forward with the lynch if town believes me.
In post 1193, Amihan wrote:
In post 1190, N e s s wrote:So fakeclaiming as a cop when you're a townie.

thats stupid, just going to say that right now. Don't ever do this again.
For the record, I also tried to make it look like I was a PR in order to bait a kill. It's only a smart move to try and muddle the waters in a situation like that where you want to keep PRs alive. In hindsight, knowing that scum probably tried to kill me night 1, it was likely they wouldn't have targeted me either way in case I was protected by Doctor or Jailkeeper again.

There's a major difference between outright fakeclaiming a power role and causing the real one to counterclaim, and dropping subtle red herrings that only scum have an absolute need to be looking for anyway. And with NLR's Jailkeeper claim at L-1 already out there, there was no harm to be had in what either of us did.
In post 1193, Amihan wrote:No I think what Podo was doing was smart. It looked like he was trying to bait out the kill in a sneaky way scum would notice but town wouldn't dig into.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:37 pm
by podoboq
In post 6629, drmyshottyizsik wrote:sorry I got in a car accident last night, hospital post, will be out later today sorry.
Hope you're alright, dude. Real life is always more important than mafia.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:42 pm
by drmyshottyizsik
Ya I'm good, leaving the hospital in the morning, on a lot of morphine so I'm not doing any modding and not much playing, kinda staygin over in gd

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:43 pm
by Malakittens
hugs<3 gad u r ok ^^^

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:44 pm
by Marquis
I think at this point I want to sheep the consensus of Mala and Cakez?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:50 pm
by dramonic
By which you mean... what, podo votes?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:52 pm
by Malakittens
i might be k w/ a flubber lynch btw

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:00 pm
by pistachi0n
In post 6639, SirCakez wrote:Idk if I said this earlier but I wouldn't try to fake being Vig with my NKs as SK
This doesn't really matter anyway because my role claim will basically conftown me anyway
This is stalling, and anti town.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:01 pm
by dramonic
How novel and unexpected

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:37 am
by Mirhawk
In post 6639, SirCakez wrote:Idk if I said this earlier but I wouldn't try to fake being Vig with my NKs as SK
This doesn't really matter anyway because my role claim will basically conftown me anyway
Which is exactly what the SK would say if they were doing that so I'm pretty much going to assume you're a SK if you claim Vig later.

Also if you have a role that will autotown you what possible use is there in hiding it now? Scum have three confirmed town to kill already, throwing a fourth on the pile certainly won't hurt the situation.

We need to start wrapping this up.

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 4:46 am
by SirCakez
In post 6656, Marquis wrote:I think at this point I want to sheep the consensus of Mala and Cakez?
I don't really think we have a consensus
Pls do some of your magic that caught Skybird earlier
In post 6659, pistachi0n wrote:
In post 6639, SirCakez wrote:Idk if I said this earlier but I wouldn't try to fake being Vig with my NKs as SK
This doesn't really matter anyway because my role claim will basically conftown me anyway
This is stalling, and anti town.
:facepalm:
In post 6661, Mirhawk wrote:
In post 6639, SirCakez wrote:Idk if I said this earlier but I wouldn't try to fake being Vig with my NKs as SK
This doesn't really matter anyway because my role claim will basically conftown me anyway
Which is exactly what the SK would say if they were doing that so I'm pretty much going to assume you're a SK if you claim Vig later.

Also if you have a role that will autotown you what possible use is there in hiding it now? Scum have three confirmed town to kill already, throwing a fourth on the pile certainly won't hurt the situation.

We need to start wrapping this up.
I'm not the Vig ffs
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
I've talked about why I don't want to claim like five bazillion times

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:21 am
by Mirhawk
CAKEZ DO SOMETHING OTHER THEN BE UNHELPFUL AND SCUMMY.

You've got to be either the vig, the roleblocker/jailkeeper, or the one responsible for the wig nonsense. None of those will autotown you, and none of those are even particularly important to hide at this point either.

Also do something other then sit there with your thumb up your butt.

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:28 am
by Mirhawk
You say you think you know what Cerbs role is and that it makes him scummy, but you don't want to tell us what it is or why he's scummy. Thanks a lot.

You both say your flavor is related to someone else's, but are still refusing to say what or why for -reasons-. It is by the way painfully obvious to everyone that you're talking about each other here.

Everyone's keeping secrets for stupid reasons and it's driving me nuts.

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:32 am
by itlepip
hi guys, let's lynch someone soon k?

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:35 am
by podoboq
In post 6664, Mirhawk wrote:You say you think you know what Cerbs role is and that it makes him scummy, but you don't want to tell us what it is or why he's scummy. Thanks a lot.

You both say your flavor is related to someone else's, but are still refusing to say what or why for -reasons-. It is by the way painfully obvious to everyone that you're talking about each other here.

Everyone's keeping secrets for stupid reasons and it's driving me nuts.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It's extra annoying to me, because not only am I pretty sure that I'm getting lynched today over this problematic nightmare, but it means I won't be around to provide any analysis on his eventual claim. Like, I've been trying to spend my last day before my flip doing some game solving so that I can provide something after I'm lynched, but Cakez refuses to talk. Assuming I get lynched today, can town please focus some attention on Cakez? I think he's our SK, and if he's not, with this behavior I'd still think he's scum.

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:37 am
by podoboq
In post 6665, itlepip wrote:hi guys, let's lynch someone soon k?
What's with the rush? We have almost four days. I'd like to use that time to get some information into the game.

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:14 am
by itlepip
I'm bored.

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:00 am
by podoboq
In post 6668, itlepip wrote:I'm bored.
That's fair

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:58 am
by dramonic
In post 6663, Mirhawk wrote:You've got to be either the vig, the roleblocker/jailkeeper, or the one responsible for the wig nonsense.
That is one REALLY FAULTY ASSUMPTION

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:51 pm
by Mirhawk
Maybe a little faulty, but I wouldnt say really faulty.

The Wigger and the SK have to exist. The RB only doesn't exist if Ogre was lying about getting no results, and claiming flavor cop when he wasn't one would have been a pretty bad play for scum in a game that could conceivably go on for some time. He would have had to prove it some time, and there wasn't really any reason for scum to pretend to be blocked if they weren't.

Admittedly, there are three possible roles between four people though. And there is the possibility that someone lied about their role when claiming (coughPipercough).

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:54 pm
by dramonic
piper, mala, you, podo, myself, cakez, flubber, cerb all have either no public proof of role, or in flubber's case no proof of not having a one-shot wig/rb.
So.. really faulty.

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:55 pm
by dramonic
add itle to that list.

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:12 pm
by Rob14
bump