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Post Post #6650 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:48 am

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In post 6647, Hectic wrote:how is Espeonage not scummier for getting nothing 2 nights in a row?
eagerly awaiting what his God role yielded last night
Because of the fact Pine failed on Espy too.

No rationale for either. Simplest explanation is E was aliened.
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Post Post #6651 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:56 am

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alien roleblocks and rolestops?
can't find it on the wiki
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Post Post #6652 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:57 am

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in that case Espeonage is only scum while Pine is town if Espeonage is ascetic and lied about it
barring scum aliening one of their own
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Post Post #6653 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:07 am

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In post 6651, Hectic wrote:alien roleblocks and rolestops?
can't find it on the wiki
It's under Jailkeeper as a Variant.
Some Jailkeepers not only protect their target from all kills, but also render its target untargetable by all other actions during that Night. This variant is also known as Alien.
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Post Post #6654 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:15 am

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oh wow i've been assuming it was a weaker version of Jailkeeper which didn't protect its target
but that's much stronger since it actually commutes them
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Post Post #6655 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:18 am

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so the reason why i find it sus that Espeonage gets no results 2 nights in a row is that if he's actually a God role, he should only ever claim it day 1 if the God role can't be roleblocked/Aliened in some way, otherwise, why out yourself and effectively make yourself useless in the case of a roleblocker?
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Post Post #6656 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:27 am

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Interesting.

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Post Post #6657 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:29 am

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Post Post #6658 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:45 am

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In post 6655, Hectic wrote:so the reason why i find it sus that Espeonage gets no results 2 nights in a row is that if he's actually a God role, he should only ever claim it day 1 if the God role can't be roleblocked/Aliened in some way, otherwise, why out yourself and effectively make yourself useless in the case of a roleblocker?
Why not? If scum fear they can't kill him, then they roleblock him from here to eternity if they can. The puppy in Espy's game was definitely unkillable for scum. If they found that game night 1 they'd be aware of it.

They should be out of blocks if I am correct. Despite TSE being wrong on Chemist, I still put stock in his all joats theory.
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Post Post #6659 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:13 am

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In post 6658, Titus wrote:They should be out of blocks if I am correct. Despite TSE being wrong on Chemist, I still put stock in his all joats theory.
What are all the claims currently?
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Post Post #6660 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:19 am

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In post 6658, Titus wrote:
In post 6655, Hectic wrote:so the reason why i find it sus that Espeonage gets no results 2 nights in a row is that if he's actually a God role, he should only ever claim it day 1 if the God role can't be roleblocked/Aliened in some way, otherwise, why out yourself and effectively make yourself useless in the case of a roleblocker?
Why not? If scum fear they can't kill him, then they roleblock him from here to eternity if they can. The puppy in Espy's game was definitely unkillable for scum. If they found that game night 1 they'd be aware of it.

They should be out of blocks if I am correct. Despite TSE being wrong on Chemist, I still put stock in his all joats theory.
why would they fear they can't kill him?
was there reason to believe Espeonage was tough to nightkill?

the point i'm making though is why does town!Espeonage out himself as a powerful role worth roleblocking on day 1?
with no reasonable provocation as far as i can remember
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Post Post #6661 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:24 am

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As an extra, roughly at what point did Bitmap start to gain traction?
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Post Post #6662 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:25 am

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Not until Day 2, despite my constant pleading for his death Day 1.
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Post Post #6663 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:26 am

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I'm more hoping for a rough estimate on the page number.
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Post Post #6664 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:39 am

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Hi

Still here

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Post Post #6665 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:51 am

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In post 6621, gobbledygook wrote:Yo Pine


Why’d you lie about being an enabler
I didn’t. Perhaps you misunderstand what an enabler is
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Post Post #6666 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:01 am

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In post 6650, Titus wrote:
In post 6647, Hectic wrote:how is Espeonage not scummier for getting nothing 2 nights in a row?
eagerly awaiting what his God role yielded last night
Because of the fact Pine failed on Espy too.

No rationale for either. Simplest explanation is E was aliened.
Titus, Espe claimed non-ascetic during our D1 claims, and then changed that to ascetic and PR later on.

When did Pine fail on Espe?

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Post Post #6667 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:04 am

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Successful action on Ank, by the way, with a positive result.
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Post Post #6668 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:05 am

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Err, negative result. Sorry. She is not what my role detects for. That is a positive thing, hence the mix up.
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Post Post #6669 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:12 am

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Espy did not claim ascetic
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Post Post #6670 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:15 am

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In post 6660, Hectic wrote:
In post 6658, Titus wrote:
In post 6655, Hectic wrote:so the reason why i find it sus that Espeonage gets no results 2 nights in a row is that if he's actually a God role, he should only ever claim it day 1 if the God role can't be roleblocked/Aliened in some way, otherwise, why out yourself and effectively make yourself useless in the case of a roleblocker?
Why not? If scum fear they can't kill him, then they roleblock him from here to eternity if they can. The puppy in Espy's game was definitely unkillable for scum. If they found that game night 1 they'd be aware of it.

They should be out of blocks if I am correct. Despite TSE being wrong on Chemist, I still put stock in his all joats theory.
why would they fear they can't kill him?
was there reason to believe Espeonage was tough to nightkill?

the point i'm making though is why does town!Espeonage out himself as a powerful role worth roleblocking on day 1?

with no reasonable provocation as far as i can remember
There are possible reasons, but I'd like to see Espe's answer to this.

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Post Post #6671 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:15 am

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In post 6663, Ankamius wrote:I'm more hoping for a rough estimate on the page number.
Somewhere between 3775 and 5504. The first vote came on Bitmap at 4291 from AaronFrost.
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Post Post #6672 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:16 am

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In post 6667, Pine wrote:Successful action on Ank, by the way, with a positive result.
In post 6668, Pine wrote:Err, negative result. Sorry. She is not what my role detects for. That is a positive thing, hence the mix up.
Why me?
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Post Post #6673 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:16 am

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In post 6671, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 6663, Ankamius wrote:I'm more hoping for a rough estimate on the page number.
Somewhere between 3775 and 5504. The first vote came on Bitmap at 4291 from AaronFrost.
Thank you, I'll look for this later.
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Post Post #6674 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:25 am

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In post 6666, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 6650, Titus wrote:
In post 6647, Hectic wrote:how is Espeonage not scummier for getting nothing 2 nights in a row?
eagerly awaiting what his God role yielded last night
Because of the fact Pine failed on Espy too.

No rationale for either. Simplest explanation is E was aliened.
Titus, Espe claimed non-ascetic during our D1 claims, and then changed that to ascetic and PR later on.

When did Pine fail on Espe?


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Pine, see bolded.

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