the timing of this was p suspect, as i mentioned at the time - it came literally minutes after brian announced a townread on annie. this, to me, looked(s) like buddying brian; if annie is scum i dont' think brian is
In post 525, Annie Edison wrote:Skitter you understand Brian started the buddying between our slots before me lol
But I pinged bulge
(i remember checking the timing upon this post as well, and iirc brian literally mentioned them like twice before this in a non-ai fashion, so this was also like ... not true)
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In post 342, Annie Edison wrote:you're putting energy into the other thread as if you expect to be spending some time there sooner rather than later.
i still hate this line of questioning, and in retrospect, it looks like fishing. it's implying that i'm scummy for wanting to be turnstiled, but the reasoning for *why* that's a scummy desire is not explained. i later called these posts random shade, because the tone is negative, but he's utterly failing to explain *why* it's scummy of me for wanting this
continuing on that theme:
385, which i utterly hate, and could not get the bulge to elaborate upon, and that's when i started tunneling. he's once again objecting to me having more reads over there than here, but fails to explain why that's an issue or scummy. the last line i particularly hate: 'remove all that from your iso and it's all mechtalk'. or, in other words, he's basically saying: 'if we remove all of your content you have no content, and i take issue with you not having any content', which makes ... exactly no sense? obviously if you remove my reads i won't have any content left, but he's trying to negate most of the content i had at the time and then complaining i don't have any. i have a really, really hard time seeing that as a real thought, or as anything but shade, and despite trying to get clarification i was dodged multiple times there.
this is where i starting making a whole big thing abt annie; i believe the bulge wrote these posts and i actively tried over the next day or so (i don't remember the exact timeline) to get him to followup on this, but he ignored/avoided me multiple times (i'm not gonna quote proof for this but you are free to verify this for yourself by control-f'ing 'the bulge' in my iso)
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and here is my original case on them, as the wagon was rising, for reference:
In post 823, skitter30 wrote: In post 818, Deacon Blues wrote:Also I am going through your ISO and I can't really figure out what you're actually scumreading annie for
@skitter
oh this i'm pretty sure i said:
-> i'm p sure their observation last night abt me having more reads in the other thread was throwaway shade than anything else, and given that i can't really get an elaboration on tha,t until i do i'm assumign that's what it is. it doesn't feel like a real thought that actually lead to a scumread, although they were *acting* like it should be a reason to scumread me even though as best as i can tell they haven't actually made a connection between 'more reads onpeople in the other thread' and 'scumread', nor have they explained why my doing that is more egregious than ... literally anybody else who's done that. i'm not gonna drop it till they elaborate because it felt more like shade than anything else
-> buddying brian (already explained this one)
-> and just a lot of post are pinging me all around
-> they're also acting like they have more townreads than they actually do, feels like they're trying to project confidence and an air of gravitas (this one is new, don't think i elaborated on this one yet )
examples of the last point:
874,
683,
670
iirc he had like three people townreading him at this point ...
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to elaborate on the last point in the above post: consistently as his wagon was rising, he kept trying to shade the people pushing it the strongest (me (who i don't think he actually ever articulated a scumread on beyond 'my push on his wagon was terrible' and norra (who flipped town)). he just kept loudly and loudly complaining that his wagon was awful, but there wasn't really any solving for *who the scum were pushing the wagon* again, besides for me (who i think we mostly think is town now?) and noraa (flipped town), who were incidentally also the loudest two people wanting him dead at the time. it's stupidly survivalistic
he also kept trying to project town and make himself look like a much, much more universal townread than he actually was at the time.
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aside he kept saying he wanted to be turnstiled so that he could purple room with deacon n2 and that kinda fizzled out and nothing much came of it ...
(and from the perspective of: town is trying to clear the forwards thread of scum, scum!annie trying to get over makes a lot of sense ...)
related:
Subject: TENET - Day 2
Annie Edison wrote:Yes we had my entire team send me over so I could be a mafia goon on this side instead, you got me.
and quite a lot of his content is abt actualizng this plan (i.e. utilizing the turnstile), as opposed to just liming scum (which he isn't giving much thought to at all). and like after the a50 turnstile his content is just ... very meh
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whooo other timeline (man iso-ing people is a pain ...)
(and tbf i spend less time concentrating over there as i have my own massive game to work on here, so like my grasp of the context around specific posts over there is less strong)
Subject: TENET - Day 2
Annie Edison wrote:Okay Nacho.
Who does the other side need to elim then.
Subject: TENET - Day 2
Annie Edison wrote:@ffery- she’s town, and I’m a piece of Shit.
I’ll figure out where to go from here.
just dropping noraa scum upon imperium coming out as ic and defending her is eehhhhhhhhh kinda icky
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progression on shelly wasn't great - he was defendign her for a while and then hopped on as she kept digging her own hole deeper. not impossible to come from town but i didn't really like it
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Subject: TENET - Day 2
Annie Edison wrote:They think Pooky went over and hard shoved flavor as a counterwagon to skitter rn
i also called this out at the time: this, as a narrative, doesn't actually work because the timeline was completely off - if pooky wanted to come over to like save me (which i probably wouldn't let happen, anyways), he would have done it the day before (irl) than he actually did, when i was at e-1, not the next day, when i was at e-5 and most of pressure had dissipated
like three different slots started saying this after he started saying that
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Subject: TENET - Day 2
Annie Edison wrote:Dunn and Titus are town. You can remove them from your pool.
Over there take Cabd and Ffery town to the bank. Skitters claim is sketchy, I don’t like Pooky suddenly engaging over there when he did nothing over here. Peta is town. Superb I think is town (but off a cliff). I should have more but I’m watching tenet rn so I’m not spending too much effort
Subject: TENET - Day 2
Annie Edison wrote:Let’s get this turnstile knocked out guys.
I’m currently at-
Won’t touch-
Titus
Dunn
Brian
Gypyx
Hesitate to-
Spiffeh
Bell
Meh-
Muffin
A50
Hench
Tiers aren’t in order
just noting because i'm repeatedly seeing a *very* strong townread on titus, and i think he ends up on her at eod
Subject: TENET - Day 2
Annie Edison wrote:VOTE: titus
For the time being
and he did! with no progression either!
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i was gonna say that i disliked his bell progression around the claim thing but i think it was two different heads talking so eh