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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:58 am
by Skygazer
that's a v good point and further confirms wave/tchill

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:04 am
by Skygazer
w wave and tchill confirmed i rlly rlly doubt performer was an all town wagon so that increases the scum equity of khan and vax considering my tr's on ank/tbg/creature

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:06 am
by Hopkirk
VOTE: Vax

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:12 am
by TehBrawlGuy
In post 6699, Hopkirk wrote:I didn't know universal backup can only inherit their own alignment.
Doesn't that mean the neighbourhood had to be all town? Otherwise we could lynch a scum neighbour then Wheme would inherit the hood and be confirmed scum right?

iirc backup only tends to inherit active roles - it can't inherit like, miller, BP. It worked out this way because performer was Vengeful, which allowed tchill to inherit.

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:13 am
by Hopkirk
Fine with the JJD wagon too.

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:13 am
by Skygazer
Universal Backup (if self-aware) is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. A Universal Backup can be of any alignment, but it should only activate upon the first death of a power role of their own alignment. A power role in this case is any role that is not Vanilla (so not a Vanilla Townie or a Mafia Goon).

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:13 am
by TehBrawlGuy
that does mean scum UB wouldn't inherit from scum!wave unless he had an active

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:15 am
by TehBrawlGuy
In post 6705, Skygazer wrote:
Universal Backup (if self-aware) is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. A Universal Backup can be of any alignment, but it should only activate upon the first death of a power role of their own alignment. A power role in this case is any role that is not Vanilla (so not a Vanilla Townie or a Mafia Goon).
literally the same page
Variations

The term "power role" is somewhat ambiguous - generally anything that is not truly Vanilla is considered a "power role", including roles like Miller. It is ultimately up to the moderator's discretion which abilities are inheritable, though it should be planned in advance.

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:15 am
by Hopkirk
Oh, reading the wiki page it wouldn't inherit goon but would inherit normal neighbour.

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:17 am
by Skygazer
"variations" aren't covered under normal guidelines

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:28 am
by TehBrawlGuy
In post 6709, Skygazer wrote:"variations" aren't covered under normal guidelines
oshit this is a normal

you're right

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:49 am
by Ankamius
In post 6684, Creature wrote:If you don't want to clear him then we basically have a townblock of {Hopkirk, TBG, wavemode, Tchill, Ankamius, Skygazer, me} + Gamma as a candidate versus scumpool of {GR, JJD, KK, Vax, Mylo, Krazy}
JJD is probably scum
GR is my weakest scumread

KK+Vax+Gamma has two scum in it most likely

I don't think Krazy is scum from specific patterns in the VCs but I need to dig deeper into that

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:53 am
by Tchill13
I'm gonna say jjd, kk, Vax

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:53 am
by Tchill13
VOTE: jjd

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:59 am
by Hopkirk
That sounds about right.
Is that L1ish?

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:59 am
by TehBrawlGuy
L-2 I think, but better to wait for VC to be sure.

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:22 am
by Ankamius
I'd like to do my stuff first

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:28 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 6406, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 6404, Golden Robster wrote:VOTE: tchill

@krazy you're analysis is fine; I agree that we should be focusing on these three players including myself and KK here

it makes the most logical sense to look at the players who hard-defended texcat (including me)
I feel like I just got substituted in for JarJarDrinks.
Yeah that just feels a bit messed up to me
like he was trying to shift the crosshairs to an easier target

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:31 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 6437, Kublai Khan wrote:I feel like wavemode!scum would have prioritized a Tchill13 NK over a claimed VT any given night.
Yeah this is true
vengeful only activates on a lynch so by killing him it makes the vengeful not activate

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:35 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 6514, wavemode wrote:Yes EspeciallyTheLies joined my neighborhood as a universal backup to Srceenplay

I'm conftown because I'm a 2-shot Friendly Neighbor and i targeted especiallythelies (now Tchill) and Gamma Emerald
I can verify I received this
also what is GR at

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:51 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 6645, Myloninja13 wrote:
In post 6643, Golden Robster wrote:meta is shit don't use that as an excuse
...I've literally used it as an excuse for every town game I've been in...
So you play scummy as town and use meta as an excuse? PASS.

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:54 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 6699, Hopkirk wrote:I didn't know universal backup can only inherit their own alignment.
Doesn't that mean the neighbourhood had to be all town? Otherwise we could lynch a scum neighbour then Wheme would inherit the hood and be confirmed scum right?
Honestly I don't think that would even make it past the NRG, they'd probably hardcore veto that

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:56 am
by Gamma Emerald
VOTE: Golden Robster
I don't understand people backing off of this, why, because he gave up and self-voted? That's a pot of WiFoM and you know it.

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:57 am
by Ankamius
I want to see JJDs thoughts

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:04 am
by Skygazer
I still think GR is likely scum but i also think JJD is more likely scum after the short iso stuff i posted