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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:46 am
by ReaperCharlie
Aw, man! Seriously furc? What about me, your best buddy?
Here, whisper into my ear what you're gonna do tonight...

*leans over towards Furc*

shhh, say it quietly...
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:46 am
by AurorusVox
VasudeVa wrote:
@AurorusVox:
Why is Andy's Bowser FoS + VasVote suspicious? If Andy flips scum, who do you think is his buddy? Also, what do you think of MoI?

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ohJoy, LB is scum with Bowser. Yay!
It's suspicious because he has gotten a legitimate reason to vote for someone, but opted to ignore that in favour of a random vote on you - an RV which he still holds. He said he was waiting to see if more content came from Bowser -- which hasn't happened -- but still hasn't voted for him. I think he is using his "comical" history with you to maintain a random vote and sidestep discussing many of the matters that other players are engaging in. I would be suspicious of Bowser as his partner (vote someone + FoS partner for distancing) but it doesn't necessarily have to be that; he could be using the Bowser FoS (who had a number of votes on him) to mingle with town and give off appearances of looking for a better place for his vote when, in fact, he has no intention of changing it.

I was really suspicious of MoI for what I thought was tunnelling, and what I thought was a really bad argument on Furc to augment the tunnelling; but then with a prompt from Wicked, I realised that I had mis-read the quote/argument, and when I ISO'd him, I saw that he hadn't really tunnelled after all. It kinda knocked the wind out of my MoI suspicions. He's been ready and willing to concede some points on Furc, and I've now gone to a neutral (leaning slightly town) read.


If you think Bowser is scum, what do you make of Andy's FoS on Bowser whilst he still has an RV on you?

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:55 am
by Furcolow
"Furcolow (483) - you remember precisely the time when you stopped reading the sign up thread? I also love the contradiction about having all the time in the world when he accused us of making cases when you weren't around so you couldn't respond."

I looked it up to defend myself. I didn't remember El Goosuki, and I remembered like 97% of the signups, which is why I didn't feel the need to look back when I picked who to ward. I work, have a girlfriend, and have a few bad habits so I, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, don't sit on mafia all day.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:59 am
by Furcolow
Lost Butterfly wrote:This fucking game.

I really don't understand the Baby Spice hate. Looking through her posts they come across as newb town to me. I absolutely understand where she's coming from with the furc hate but since that's not going anywhere w/e. The rest of her posts don't look bad though, I think the reaction to someone claiming being confirmed town isn't scummy either, it happens most games, and it's really not indicative of alignment. Not seeing her as scum at all. Bad wagon.

Can't say the Elli/DGB hydra have done anything for me so far. DGB putting Fate on her scum list is bizarre, and they've seemed to be on the periphery of the game for the most part.

Where's Kunkstar?
You've defended Seacore
Fate has defended Seacore - twice
Now you're defending BabySpice?
You need to learn when to cut the fat
BabySpice is obviously pulling your scumteam down
I guess you've moved on from Seacore since he's going to be lynched?
Is he still town?

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:01 am
by Furcolow
Fate wrote:Seacore is town because his crumb+motives are very clear to me. Can't say more without outing his claim, which I would like to avoid as there are much better targets out there today.

@???: Furc warded his scumbuddy becomes more and more unlikely as I realize warding would only prevent stalks (from cult pov), which as an:

WAIT FOR IT.

UNLIKELY TOWN ACTION N0.


@RC: DID YOU JUST FUCKING NINJA ME BY QUOTING AFUCKING LIST AND APPROVING IT?
AND YOU THINK IM HARD TO READ YOU USELESS SACK?
third time he's said "SEACORE IS TOWN" not "seacore is probably town"
third fucking time... well one was kind of ambiguous, but at LEAST the second time. It's more like 2.5-2.7

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:03 am
by Plum
ReaperCharlie wrote:Plum. For the record, I always liked you. (well, a little bit).
I knew that, but I appreciate it being expressed in a way that doesn't make Papa Zito want me to Modkill you :P
Fate wrote:Seacore is town because his crumb+motives are very clear to me. Can't say more without outing his claim, which I would like to avoid as there are much better targets out there today.
Hmmmmm? Quuue? I don't mean you should out any important information, but I have no clue what you're talking about and YEAH.

Also two people claimed to have Warded the same person. Guess what this could mean?

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:03 am
by Furcolow
xvart wrote:
AurorusVox wrote:And I've already pointed out two flaws in xvart's plan, so no, it's not a good idea.
But the flaws are flaws in determining if he is Cult; not determining if he is lying investigator going Murderer. The general consensus is that he is fairly cleared of being Cult, so that is almost a moot point. My point in my last post was that the plan was better when it could catch Cult and Murderer (if in the off chance the town's nonCult read of Furcolow is wrong). I still think it's a good plan because he is lying and most likely already has an insanity. Fate does not have an insanity. Commune will show if Fucolow is an Investigator going Murderer.

xvart.
too bad this is WIFOM because there is an insanity which delays a day dumbfuck

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:05 am
by Furcolow
"Glance at him in SAII and see how many times I had to try to talk him out of killing. I think if I had let him go, he would have tried to go murderer there. In terms of Furc playing suboptimally...well....."

i wanted to do a single fucking vig, VP Baltar, get that through your head

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:07 am
by Furcolow
"@Hito: Err. I don't think Furcolow is the best choice since Insanities are hella harsher now + Private Infarctions. I clarified this in the sign up: Two strikes of the same = Modkill. Three strikes of any = Modkill. I'd rather someone who's..a bit more careful do it, to prevent unecessary modkills on not-cult. No offense to Furc, but he doesn't really strike me as the most careful player out there."

@VasuDeva: THANK GOD. I'm glad someone pointed this out. I have fear of gaining insanities, which is why I'll be picking things like Solist which won't get me killed!

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:08 am
by Furcolow
ReaperCharlie wrote:Aw, man! Seriously furc? What about me, your best buddy?
Here, whisper into my ear what you're gonna do tonight...

*leans over towards Furc*

shhh, say it quietly...
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*whisper whisper*
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:)

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:16 am
by VasudeVa
Yo Furc, 28 pages in the game, you have 7 pages in your ISO.

Can you tone it down a bit? You're really bogging it down.

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AV wrote:If you think Bowser is scum, what do you make of Andy's FoS on Bowser whilst he still has an RV on you?
Bowser scum = Andyscum. However, if they aren't horribly obvious like Bowser, I'd like to question them for a little while before I get into gripes of what I do think of them. I'm questioning Andy as we speak, will clarify in a few. :P
Plum wrote:Also two people claimed to have Warded the same person. Guess what this could mean?
Do tell, madame Plum.
(Although, I think I may have guessed it along the way. It has something to do with Baby Spice right~ *cookie if yes*, *no cookie if no*)

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:19 am
by Plum
It
might
, but it's even more likely - again without looking back over certain things - that it's the flip side of what you're thinking. But we are thinking along the same lines, so we're great.

*half a cookie*

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:22 am
by Furcolow
VasudeVa wrote:Yo Furc, 28 pages in the game, you have 7 pages in your ISO.

Can you tone it down a bit? You're really bogging it down.

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AV wrote:If you think Bowser is scum, what do you make of Andy's FoS on Bowser whilst he still has an RV on you?
Bowser scum = Andyscum. However, if they aren't horribly obvious like Bowser, I'd like to question them for a little while before I get into gripes of what I do think of them. I'm questioning Andy as we speak, will clarify in a few. :P
Plum wrote:Also two people claimed to have Warded the same person. Guess what this could mean?
Do tell, madame Plum.
(Although, I think I may have guessed it along the way. It has something to do with Baby Spice right~ *cookie if yes*, *no cookie if no*)
No, I can't.
1) I'm confirmed in my eyes
2) I spam as town

sorry.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:26 am
by Lost Butterfly
Furcolow wrote: You've defended Seacore
Fate has defended Seacore - twice
Now you're defending BabySpice?
I know all this, and yes I am. He looks like newb town to me.
I guess you've moved on from Seacore since he's going to be lynched?
Is he still town?
Is he? I'm pretty damn sure he's town, yeah. His play here kinda reminds of early PYP 1.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:27 am
by kunkstar7
Plum wrote:Also two people claimed to have Warded the same person. Guess what this could mean?
Rules wrote:Your action will fail if someone targets you with Ward, and you will not be notified of the failure.
Unfortunately it proves nothing as it only fails if situations goes like:
Player A wards Player B.
Player B wards Player C.
Player B Fails ward.

Both are successful if:
Player A and B ward Player C.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:29 am
by Lost Butterfly
Plum wrote:It
might
, but it's even more likely - again without looking back over certain things - that it's the flip side of what you're thinking. But we are thinking along the same lines, so we're great.

*half a cookie*
I see it ( I think).

ebwop: or not of what kunk said is relevant.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:32 am
by ReaperCharlie
Furcolow wrote:
ReaperCharlie wrote:Aw, man! Seriously furc? What about me, your best buddy?
Here, whisper into my ear what you're gonna do tonight...

*leans over towards Furc*

shhh, say it quietly...
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*whisper whisper*
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:)
OMG FURC IS CULT I KNEW IT ALL ALONG GUIZ

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:34 am
by ReaperCharlie
VasudeVa wrote:Yo Furc, 28 pages in the game, you have 7 pages in your ISO.

Can you tone it down a bit? You're really bogging it down.
^scummy

Has absolutely no bearing in the game. If all of furc's posts are scumhunting and valid discussion, then I welcome each and every single post. At this point I would throw myself in front of a bullet for furc.

GTFO VAS AND TAKE YOUR BADGER FRIENDS WITH YOU.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:36 am
by Plum
kunkstar7 wrote:
Plum wrote:Also two people claimed to have Warded the same person. Guess what this could mean?
Rules wrote:Your action will fail if someone targets you with Ward, and you will not be notified of the failure.
Unfortunately it proves nothing as it only fails if situations goes like:
Player A wards Player B.
Player B wards Player C.
Player B Fails ward.

Both are successful if:
Player A and B ward Player C.
It's nothing near confirmatory. But.

What I'm saying is, Ward is a pretty unlikely scum action N0. You follow?

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:37 am
by ReaperCharlie
Shhh Plum the scum didn't think of that... ;)

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:05 am
by Furcolow
But if they claim to ward their scum friends, and their scum friends go I HEARD NOISE...

I guess they would be afraid of doubling up with someone, though, so the earlier the ward claim the more likely it is town
not that i'm likely town or anything hahahahahahaha wasnt mine the first claim? :)
FOR ALL OF YOU WHO CAN'T READ, I'M BEING FACETIOUS.

Lost Butterfly is probably our best lynch, but noone listens to me

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:06 am
by Furcolow
i was being facetious about "not that i'm likely town". I hate having to rectify things because of the presumed ignorance of the people who will be reading this. (not all of you!)

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:09 am
by Furcolow
i just really don't see the benefit of saying "player A is town" if you are town
Fate has said "player A is town", so has Lost Butterfly
Lost Butterfly has even said "player B is town"

is it worse to lynch player A/player B, or the person SAYING these things?
Personally, I find player A to be lurky, and not very good
Player B is one of the worst mafia players I have ever seen, and if they're scum, they won't win the game

Fate and Lost Butterfly, however, are both good players/slots

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:12 am
by Furcolow
Since BM has stalked Fate, we can hold his ass accountable if Fate does not die. If fate gets ressed, we lynch fate, and if he's town we have BM as a caught scum. Hell, we might lynch BM instead of Fate if Fate doesnt die. If Fate doesn't die, and someone openly ressed, then we either lynch fate/the resser. This is our D2 plan imo.

RIGHT NOW, where fate is integral to the D2 plan, we can't lynch that cult yet (assuming he/she is cult)
HOWEVER, we CAN lynch mina. Mina = Lost Butterfly for those of you that don't read everything.
Mina has been openly defending numerous players, and while you may say "many people are doing that to you", the players she has been defending have been NOT confirmed in the slightest. I mean, go read babyspice/seacore/lost butterfly/fate in iso and tell me if there aren't common themes between them all.

unvote
vote: lost butterfly


reasoning: seacore/babyspice are mostly harmless
fate is required to prove benmage
lost butterfly is our best cult lynch at this moment

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:16 am
by Furcolow
kunkstar7 wrote: Points conceded.
Does your plan involve Fate using his commune, or just surviving the shot?
@Hito regarding the graverob roleblock, it consists of having a player waste both night actions on robbing seperate graves. This double graverob was a crucial component to shutting down murderers in SA2 (I know, I had to do it a couple times). Graverobbing should be left to players that are considered likely murderer, and having someone with Necrophilia reduces the effectiveness of that roleblock. The only thing crucial this game is to make sure that graves are robbed by two players apiece.
You berated me for talking about graverobbing earlier (or was that rewq? I think it was you!), and now you talk about it? I am not really for this hypocrisy, but that is not why I'm quoting this...


good job having post #666
obvious scum here uz guyz!
hahaha

for those who don't know, i'm primarily kidding here. just because i've caught 4 scum, doesn't mean i can't joke around!