the overwhelming majority on creature wagon does seem pretty weird if he's town tbh
i still don't understand why tpfkap/renais lynch aren't on the table and why this playerlist is completely OK with the level of bullshit in the thread. realtalk if it continues to be this awful I might just /out
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:41 am
by NicoRobin
kk
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:04 am
by Randomnamechange
aight yo wassup g's im here now talk to me
creature could be scum but seems kinda lynchabity nowatimsayin
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:06 am
by Randomnamechange
the three players who were removed had the highest post count in the game
while i think it probs was a scum ability, they might not have chosen who to do it on
Reality Check, The Worst, Scioness Sajj have been sent to the Underground.
Cool... engaged players all leave, and people just continue to state the obvious.
The only thing that keeps me from saying this ISN'T scum, is that it's possible this was a self-caused ability. Which I think would mostly come from town in this scenario.
I have a townish general read of the people here; so I can't see scum doing this to themselves, especially since neither one of them were in any danger of being lynched or wagoned with the present game.
~ Taly
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:37 am
by Vartsun
Ugh... this gamestate.
In post 675, TehBrawlGuy wrote:the overwhelming majority on creature wagon does seem pretty weird if he's town tbh
i still don't understand why tpfkap/renais lynch aren't on the table and why this playerlist is completely OK with the level of bullshit in the thread. realtalk if it continues to be this awful I might just /out
I've never been OK with the level of bullshit in this thread.
I've never said "no" to a
tgkfap or renais
lynch, and I've voiced that they're my other two strong scumreads presently besides
Creature
.
If you're going to /out, at least be useful and talk to me on why
Creature
isn't a good lynch.
It's not hard to read him. He's made no stances in this game, and he's actively playing null. This is how
OK - how's the apathy doing for yeah? Bet it's helping you fulfill your wincon.
In post 677, Randomnamechange wrote:aight yo wassup g's im here now talk to me
creature could be scum but seems kinda lynchabity nowatimsayin
So... 27 pages and you don't have many reads much at all?
And why are you saying
"
creature
could be scum but"
, if he's lynchbaity, then why aren't you discussing the wagon on him?
In post 678, Randomnamechange wrote:the three players who were removed had the highest post count in the game
while i think it probs was a scum ability, they might not have chosen who to do it on
I don't get the purpose of this post. You're parroting the fact that
the worst
,
Sajj
, and
reality
contributed the most
((which I would argue is not 100% true))
- but then you're stating that the ability was PROBABLY made by scum.
In essence, you make no conclusion or anything that someone gamesolving could work with.
Not voting: NicoRobin, Creature, Princess of Renais, Shoshin
With 12 alive it's 7 to lynch.
The day will end at (expired on 2018-06-07 15:00:00).
Upon looking at the wagons, I'm thinking this ability is probably done by town within
{the worst, Reality Check, Sajj}
If
Creature
were scum, then it'd make more sense to remove players ON his wagon, and to cause WIFOM.
A lot of
the worst's
,
reality's
, and
Sajj's
interactions in this game were amongst each other - as they were very active.
So now I'm little worried about the
Creature
wagon, nobody's outright defended it besides maybe
Nancy
before her vote, but I don't think people are engaging with that.
Wheme
was the ONLY sensible vote on that wagon, but he's going for
Joral
... who I should ISO to strengthen my read there - because I think he's town, but I don't where his heads at in the game if he's not voting independently. Dislike the
tgkfap
vote much like the rest of their posts.
In post 642, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Okay, I just ISOd my last town game with Creature on MU. I had subbed in late to that game and had never fully read the entire thread. But comparing his ISO in that game with this one, there really is no contest. Keep in mind that this game has a 2 week d1 and the game on MU had only 48 hrs and he did a helluva a lot more solving in those 2 days, than he has done here in an entire week.
UNVOTE: Rennais
VOTE: Creature
So are you thinking he's scum off meta as well, now? Or in-game thoughts? What changed?
~ Taly
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:39 am
by Vartsun
I'm going to post GIFs of kitties to entice people TO DO SOMETHING.
~ Taly
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:46 am
by Vartsun
In post 652, Creature wrote:Who do we Lynch? NicoRobin, Princess of Reinais, TehBrawlGuy or someone from my wagon?
"Yay! Because in a game filling with apathy, let's just throw HALF THE PLAYERLIST as a lynch, and then cast transparent suspicion on my wagon! WHEEEEEEE!!!
If you're going to post random flavor that adds nothing to actually figuring out the game, then at least explain what it means.
~ Taly
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:03 am
by Randomnamechange
i have more reads
no one bothered to ask me about themthe questions about creature make 0 sense
i wasnt saying they contributed the most
i was saying htey had the most posts
and the ability posssibly removed the three highest posters rather than 3 players of the choice of whoever activated the ability
try reading the posts you are commenting on
shittier posting isnt any better than lurking tbh
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:25 am
by Creature
Sorry, cat posts aren't what I need.
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:27 am
by Creature
In post 683, Vartsun wrote:"Yay! Because in a game filling with apathy, let's just throw HALF THE PLAYERLIST as a lynch, and then cast transparent suspicion on my wagon! WHEEEEEEE!!!
The ones I haven't included are sort of townreads and didn't say I was fine lynching any from my wagon.
In post 683, Vartsun wrote:"Yay! Because in a game filling with apathy, let's just throw HALF THE PLAYERLIST as a lynch, and then cast transparent suspicion on my wagon! WHEEEEEEE!!!
The ones I haven't included are sort of townreads and didn't say I was fine lynching any from my wagon.
And . . . those townreads are . . . ? Care to share with the rest of the class? Also, any scumreads, would also be really swell. kthanx.
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:41 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 689, NicoRobin wrote:We've been thrown in the fire, we've been lost in the flame, but we will rise from the ashes again
Not voting: NicoRobin, Creature, Princess of Renais, Shoshin
With 12 alive it's 7 to lynch.
The day will end at (expired on 2018-06-07 15:00:00).
Upon looking at the wagons, I'm thinking this ability is probably done by town within
{the worst, Reality Check, Sajj}
If
Creature
were scum, then it'd make more sense to remove players ON his wagon, and to cause WIFOM.
A lot of
the worst's
,
reality's
, and
Sajj's
interactions in this game were amongst each other - as they were very active.
So now I'm little worried about the
Creature
wagon, nobody's outright defended it besides maybe
Nancy
before her vote, but I don't think people are engaging with that.
Wheme
was the ONLY sensible vote on that wagon, but he's going for
Joral
... who I should ISO to strengthen my read there - because I think he's town, but I don't where his heads at in the game if he's not voting independently. Dislike the
tgkfap
vote much like the rest of their posts.
In post 642, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Okay, I just ISOd my last town game with Creature on MU. I had subbed in late to that game and had never fully read the entire thread. But comparing his ISO in that game with this one, there really is no contest. Keep in mind that this game has a 2 week d1 and the game on MU had only 48 hrs and he did a helluva a lot more solving in those 2 days, than he has done here in an entire week.
UNVOTE: Rennais
VOTE: Creature
So are you thinking he's scum off meta as well, now? Or in-game thoughts? What changed?
~ Taly
The game I played with Creature was an anonymous game, so when I was actually playing the game, I had no idea I was playing with Creature. If I had, I’d have never mistakenly voted for him. I remembered that Creature hadn’t really done anything useful until d4 and his play here - unlike his typical games I’ve played with him, weren’t exactly identical to the games I’ve played with him as scum, so I decided to ISO his posts in that game to determine if my initial recollection that he didn’t do anyhing useful until d4 was really accurate. I found it wasn’t - especially when compared and contrasted with this one. The most significant difference was that in that MU game I ISOd, Creature was making a sincere and earnest effort to sort reads - something he has shown extreme reluctance to do here.
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:05 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 694, joral wrote:Wheme's latest vote on me is post 666. Confirmed proof wheme is evil.
LOL I noticed that too. Maybe Wheme is Jareth?
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:25 am
by joral
Taly, here's my problem. My vote on creature is basically a gut thing. Something "feels" off, but I can't say "in Post x, line y, Creature said z" which points to it. I'm not heavily committed for that reason.
Renais is the result of hooking a dice roller up to a dictionary, and I would vote her just to get it to stop, except for the fear of flipping town. I'd have said Nico for active lurking, since Nico's posts still have not included value.
And yeah. The pointless antagonism from Wheme is having a negative effect on me and my interest in this game, I will admit.
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:36 am
by TehBrawlGuy
In post 697, joral wrote:Taly, here's my problem. My vote on creature is basically a gut thing. Something "feels" off, but I can't say "in Post x, line y, Creature said z" which points to it. I'm not heavily committed for that reason.
Renais is the result of hooking a dice roller up to a dictionary, and I would vote her just to get it to stop, except for the fear of flipping town.
I'd have said Nico for active lurking, since Nico's posts still have not included value.
And yeah. The pointless antagonism from Wheme is having a negative effect on me and my interest in this game, I will admit.
Unless you want her alive to lategame/endgame, you gotta bite the bullet and do it. There's no guarantee we have a killing role to deal with her, and if we do lynch her, it's way better to do it early, both if she's Town and if she's Scum. If you don't think she's going to post AI content, then you gain nothing on your ability to read her by waiting.
If she's Town: Better to burn the mislynch D1 when we have the least info to go off of anyway, rather than on a day like D4 when we presumably all have good scumtargets. Killing her early also removes the distraction and debate of PLing her vs. lynching the scummiest players.
If she's Scum: We'd have to lynch her to win anyway, and we get a flipped Scum player to draw reads off of D1.
Like, I can get on board with Creature being Scum, but my ability to read him is only going to get better as the game goes on, and it's not for the players like Renais that are posting osusnly fluff. Plus, the fact that I'm the only person on her despite a lot of lukewarm suspicion absolutely reads to me like the scumteam is protecting her.