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In post 673, Spiffeh wrote:ok I'm going back to doing nothing

In post 650, MariaR wrote:Brain are you purposely dodging my question or did you miss it for the 2nd time now.

In post 678, Brian Skies wrote:

In post 650, MariaR wrote:Brain are you purposely dodging my question or did you miss it for the 2nd time now.

I'm purposefully ignoring it.

Sakura Hana wrote:

In post 673, Spiffeh wrote:ok I'm going back to doing nothing

VOTE: Spiffeh

In post 680, MariaR wrote:The 60% sure is on you not purr so I don't know why you're bringing that up unless you're trying to call me bad then thanks for the shade I suppose

In post 660, Moment wrote:

In post 638, Moment wrote:

In post 633, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Well, you were beyond convinced I was scum in Minuet. I’m not comfortable lynching there yet. I liked her comments about the Mylo wagon because she’s right about that.

1) No, I wasn't.

2) Using that as a reason to not believe me here is a logical fallacy.

3) Scum can be right about something just as easily as town can.

I actually want to expand on this because - and I really mean you no offense - Nancy is so wrong that it deserves far more words devoted to the subject.

1) No, I wasn't "beyond convinced" that you were scum in Minuet's trio. In fact, multiple times I expressed the opinion that, although I was not yet convinced that you were as town as others seemed to believe, I was more than willing to look elsewhere because there were scumreads that I were more confident on. This isn't an argument. It's not something that you can

possibly

dispute. It's literally the words that I wrote.

Speaking of those scumreads that I was more confident on, one of them happened to be Ginngie; so

even if

the idea that my reads from Minuet's Trio were reason to disregard my logic in this game, you're ignoring my reads that were

correct.

2) Your response to my entire line of reasoning was "well, you were wrong here". This is a logical fallacy. That's not to say that I'm entirely disregarding the concept of looking at someone's long-run read accuracy; however, not only is that not what you're doing, but on a case-by-case basis that wouldn't even apply here, especially given your massive sample size of one game (one game that, I might add, you selectively choose a misrepresented incorrect read from while ignoring a correct one).

If you want to directly refute what I said regarding Maria's pocketing of you, I would love that. If you want to just say "eh, I'm not convinced", I wouldn't really enjoy that, but on some level I could still understand it. Please don't insult me by responding to me with something like this.

3) This part doesn't really need that many words; if you think that agreeing with someone on a comment like "policy lynches are bad", an obvious comment on a wagon that's destined to go nowhere, or something to the same effect is a reason to townread someone - well then, perhaps you aren't so difficult to pocket as you think.

In post 687, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Did you read my reponse to this where I clarified what I meant? I also had forgotten about your Gingie trad when I made that post, so for you to suggest I am somehow deliberately twisting anything you said is simply not the case. Your comment about my not being as easy to pocket as I think, is also inwarrented because I said, I’m on the fence. I’m not at all dismissing your points either about her taking “easy stances”. So maybe I do need more convincing because I’m not seeing it yet.

In post 663, MariaR wrote:

In post 658, Sakura Hana wrote:

In post 651, MariaR wrote:Mmm that's fine. Do you know why you read me as scummy for this game at least?

Because i feel like dunn's role makes no sense as a scum oriented role and you're pushing it real hard, I also had entirely the opposite opinion of Dunn wanting to help out by artificially extending the deadline, I thought it was towny. I think your stance on Nancy is quite easy, and I feel you are trying to sort me by looking at my interactions with other people instead of directly enganging me, which feels kind of unusual.

Why does a scum double voter not make sense to you? I'm pushing dunn for his play not his role I already disagreed with you on the deadline stuff so I get that. I don't feel like I've sorted you by interactions at all though I've looked at your posts and tried to determine if there towny or scummy.

In post 200, Dunnstral wrote:Alright, I see some people are getting rowdy so I'll lay down some terms for me starting us off: I want everyone to have meaningful contribution before votes go flying. Reasonable?

In post 661, Spiffeh wrote:

In post 634, Brian Skies wrote:You mean how he was explaining why he wanted to do it when you asked him 'why?'

The fact that he was responding to me doesn't make me feel differently???

In post 200, Dunnstral wrote:Alright, I see some people are getting rowdy so I'll lay down some terms for me starting us off:

I want everyone to have meaningful contribution before votes go flying.

Reasonable?

In post 693, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 663, MariaR wrote:

In post 658, Sakura Hana wrote:

In post 651, MariaR wrote:Mmm that's fine. Do you know why you read me as scummy for this game at least?

Because i feel like dunn's role makes no sense as a scum oriented role and you're pushing it real hard, I also had entirely the opposite opinion of Dunn wanting to help out by artificially extending the deadline, I thought it was towny. I think your stance on Nancy is quite easy, and I feel you are trying to sort me by looking at my interactions with other people instead of directly enganging me, which feels kind of unusual.

Why does a scum double voter not make sense to you? I'm pushing dunn for his play not his role I already disagreed with you on the deadline stuff so I get that. I don't feel like I've sorted you by interactions at all though I've looked at your posts and tried to determine if there towny or scummy.

Dunn sounds villagery to me and I’m not liking your strong push on him.