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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:41 am
by Wisdom
nah. i can see how sabrina gives off that impression and its totally reasonable for ausuka to suspect it

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:42 am
by Wisdom
that said, ausuka; its more than likely sabrina genuinely taking offense and being unable to step away rather than a scum agenda

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:50 am
by MariaR
Sabrinas tone comes off extremely genuine to me and it's baffling anyone can suspect that slot. Why are we voting Enigma again? I just joined to make wagons look good, but it seems people are srsly suspecting this slot so I might as well find out why.

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:56 am
by Wisdom
because he hasnt done anything town since i voted him

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:28 am
by Fuscosco
In post 677, MariaR wrote:Sabrinas tone comes off extremely genuine to me and it's baffling anyone can suspect that slot. Why are we voting Enigma again? I just joined to make wagons look good, but it seems people are srsly suspecting this slot so I might as well find out why.
hmmm, they haven't done content yet. i wont say id never TR a player based solely on tude and tone, but I will say its not stupid town. do you have experience with their main to verify this?

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:28 am
by xyzzy
votecount 1.216 players voting for Enigma (Wisdom, Elsa Jay, Dunnstral, MariaR, Vedith, StarwingBeauvoi)
4 players voting for Elsa Jay (Clemency, ofrhz, light_ganski, DoubtingThomas)
2 players voting for DoubtingThomas (Sabrina LeCutie, Fuscosco)
2 player voting for Sabrina LeCutie (wilky, Ausuka)
1 player voting for Gamma Emerald (davesaz)
1 player voting for davesaz (Gamma Emerald)
1 player voting for StarwingBeauvoi (Enigma)

0 players not voting

with 17 votes, it takes 9 to lynch.

day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-03-19 19:00:00).

mod notes: wilky is being replaced.

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:32 am
by xyzzy
btw since this replacement will be pretty close to deadline there will most likely be a deadline extension; how long it is will depend on how much time remains when the replacement happens.

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:46 pm
by StarwingBeauvoi
Enigma, why do you think Wisdom is pushing your wagon?

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:33 pm
by xyzzy
chennisden replaces Wilky.

bumping the deadline up by 24 hours.

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:31 pm
by Vedith
Hi Chen! \o/

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:03 pm
by Enigma
In post 682, StarwingBeauvoi wrote:Enigma, why do you think Wisdom is pushing your wagon?
not sure

he's either lazy town or scum going for an easy mislynch. the value of d1 is to make associatives from the various wagons and discussions happening - this is not existent in this game so my flip barely provides any info and this is something good for scum

i disagree with his read of who might be scum on my wagon
In post 655, Wisdom wrote:maria and vedith
imo scum would make more of an effort to make a valid reason to jump on the wagon, whereas maria and vedith are quite the opposite

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:05 pm
by Wisdom
have you played with maria or vedith before

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:06 pm
by Vedith
I have.

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:10 pm
by Elsa Jay
I was recently scum with Ved, actually. He's pretty chill with what he does, so I think I have a general feeling on him now? Slight townie.

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:36 pm
by chennisden
Vedith I know you tryhard as scum but I'm not sure if you tryhard as town.

I also want to ISO sabrina so I know why my slot voted them.

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:43 pm
by Vedith
I always try my best \o/

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:47 pm
by chennisden
sooo a personal conflict is why my slot is voting another slot

great

i fucking hate "out of game" influences like this

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:48 pm
by chennisden
In post 674, MariaR wrote:
In post 669, Ausuka wrote:VOTE: sabrina

i think that this needs more pressure: i feel her policy push on dt is clearly not working and as town she would either take a different angle to pushing DT or push somebody else. Right now she feels like scum who's satisfied with her current position of mostly flying under the radar and being ignored.
This feels like someone trying to make an easy push/discredit on a really stupidly obv town slot.
How is this
stupidly obvious?

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:15 pm
by MariaR
In post 683, xyzzy wrote:
chennisden replaces Wilky.

bumping the deadline up by 24 hours.
Oh god.
In post 686, Wisdom wrote:have you played with maria or vedith before
You say this like it implies scum me would jump on a wagon for no reason. (Hint that's really wrong.)

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:14 pm
by StarwingBeauvoi
In post 685, Enigma wrote:
In post 682, StarwingBeauvoi wrote:Enigma, why do you think Wisdom is pushing your wagon?
not sure

he's either lazy town or scum going for an easy mislynch. the value of d1 is to make associatives from the various wagons and discussions happening - this is not existent in this game so my flip barely provides any info and this is something good for scum

i disagree with his read of who might be scum on my wagon
In post 655, Wisdom wrote:maria and vedith
imo scum would make more of an effort to make a valid reason to jump on the wagon, whereas maria and vedith are quite the opposite
Wisdom is not stupid, but he's not always as wise as he likes to think. Giving reasons for reads is beneath him, because if we unwise people can't find our own reasons, we don't deserve his. I have not observed Wisdom as scum.

Few counter wagons, little effort, I think we've all been affected by a pathi. That's a moth like creature that makes people drowsy.

Who else could I push to make interesting things happen? I really should.

If scum take the effort to give valid reasons, then the way to not look like scum is to not try, thus not trying ought to be a sign someone is scum. But if you don't try people accuse you of not caring, and no one listens to you, thus you should try anyway.

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:10 am
by Wisdom
its not about "town tries" or "scum tries"
its about the specifics person
If they try as town, theyll try as scum so they look town
If they dont try as town, they wont try as scum so they look town
Its not black and white

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:14 am
by Wisdom
In post 693, MariaR wrote:
In post 683, xyzzy wrote:
chennisden replaces Wilky.

bumping the deadline up by 24 hours.
Oh god.
In post 686, Wisdom wrote:have you played with maria or vedith before
You say this like it implies scum me would jump on a wagon for no reason. (Hint that's really wrong.)
No I said this because Enigma basically said "lack of effort = town" which like i said in the previous post is bs
I want to see if he considers meta at all or if hes just being this shallow

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:19 am
by Wisdom
In post 685, Enigma wrote:imo scum would make more of an effort to make a valid reason to jump on the wagon, whereas maria and vedith are quite the opposite
Also despite this statement he is not trying to scumhunt on his wagon at all
He says he disagrees with maria and vedith but hes not telling us who *is* scum on his wagon

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:24 am
by Wisdom
chennisden you seem like you've read
why no opinion on the top wagon?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:25 am
by davesaz
I was mildly town on Wilky, not so sure with Chennisden.
Starwing looks more town.
Wisdom is explaining more than in the past. I'm interested enough in the improvement to not want to discourage it. And it seems to be town motivated even if I were concerned about the change.