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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:07 pm
by davesaz
Dropping the vote with no reason would be associative. Scum chemist might have a less important role and prefer to be lynched over a partner. That points to svs too.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:07 pm
by bob3141
In post 671, HoldenGolden wrote:Bob, you answered it right there. Chemist hasn't said much yet is voting alo hence why a SvS makes some sense.
original was longer
Show me where chemist voted alort. You cant because he never did.
tic voted alort in post 5.
So tell me how dave can make any conclusion based off chemist on alort slot. All he could possibily say is chemist slot has not tried.
Now he could say that means chem is scum or town. But not try and push s/s
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:09 pm
by HoldenGolden
Wait is tictac RVS vote still chemist's vote? I'm pretty sure Chemist made a remark about voting Alo
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:09 pm
by bob3141
In post 675, davesaz wrote:Dropping the vote with no reason would be associative. Scum chemist might have a less important role and prefer to be lynched over a partner. That points to svs too.
Again you out right shade chemist by sayign he voted alort. When he never did.
Tell me again how that fact changes your opinion on this evidence you claim to see. that makes alort and chem svs
Ive not been following teh game during teh week and in my catchup of teh vote counts i spotted that striaght away.
How did you not notice when you ahev hight post count
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:10 pm
by bob3141
In post 677, HoldenGolden wrote:
Wait is tictac RVS vote still chemist's vote? I'm pretty sure Chemist made a remark about voting Alo
nope just a question to alort. Where he asked alort to describe his play
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:11 pm
by Hectic
In post 671, HoldenGolden wrote:Bob, you answered it right there. Chemist hasn't said much yet is voting alo hence why a SvS makes some sense.
Wouldn't Misty/Aloratom bus and push each other more strongly at this point, given they're the only two wagons? I think them both being scum is very unlikely actually.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:12 pm
by HoldenGolden
In post 583, Chemist1422 wrote:Not really
I couldn't tell what sort of stuff was playstyle and his answer to my question about his style was too vague to work with
And this too when asked what he got by looking over Alo iso.
That actually raises the question why chemist is still voting Alo if they cannot identify anything.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:14 pm
by davesaz
In post 678, bob3141 wrote:Again you out right shade chemist by sayign he voted alort. When he never did.
The slot (tictac and chemist) are the same alignment. It doesn't change when it gets replaced.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:15 pm
by bob3141
In post 668, davesaz wrote:Aloratom voted you and was evasive on why.
Being evasive on why you voted someone, especially during RVS, is suspicious.
You seemed to be trying to ignore that this was happening.
When I asked you about it, you said "he votes people for no reason as scum" but conveniently ignored the fact he had voted you for no reason.
Only after I asked a followup, you realized that it had been a logical inconsistency. So you now tried to brush off the initial vote as RVS -- but if you realized that was the case then why try to explain it away differently in the previous question.
Neither of you are giving what I would call straightforward answers, when asked what you're thinking.
You're attacking me, when the logic of what I'm pushing is very straightforward. It's perfectly fine if you don't agree with it, even better if you can give a cohesive answer on why it's wrong, not so much that you try to dismiss it as being nothing.
Your plain and simple just ignoring what I said. While trying to claim it never happened.
Who knows maybe i wasnt clear enough. I thought it shoudl of been clear.
In alort scum game he pushed my scum read on me based on no reason
Hey guess what it was what your doing now.
I pushed against the going town mislynch and he used that to push a scum read. He could never coem up with reason i was scum on my own. Nor one for germa.
However as i said he just kept pushing it. The difference this game he came up with scum read but backed of straight away. He reevulated.
alort is talking about his different scum reads and town reads. he is interacting with them. He is not doing what he did last game and just made empty statements.
Who knows maybe his scum game has improved allot. But scum alort is just looking like an easy mislynch
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:15 pm
by davesaz
In post 681, HoldenGolden wrote:That actually raises the question why chemist is still voting Alo if they cannot identify anything.
Because unvoting and then flipping scum creates an association.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:16 pm
by HoldenGolden
In post 680, Hectic wrote: In post 671, HoldenGolden wrote:Bob, you answered it right there. Chemist hasn't said much yet is voting alo hence why a SvS makes some sense.
Wouldn't Misty/Aloratom bus and push each other more strongly at this point, given they're the only two wagons? I think them both being scum is very unlikely actually.
Chemist feels like they have given up lowkey.
I said it made some sense. I talked about Alo vote on AFF making it confusing too. He had a way to bus Chemist if he wanted but instead he went for AFF. I dont see why unless they actually think they can get the wagons off them or unless maybe chemist has a more powerful role?
Either way its speculation and seeing one flip will make it easier to decipher one way or another.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:18 pm
by davesaz
Flailing when you aren't even being voted is pretty funny, ngl.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:20 pm
by bob3141
In post 681, HoldenGolden wrote: In post 583, Chemist1422 wrote:Not really
I couldn't tell what sort of stuff was playstyle and his answer to my question about his style was too vague to work with
And this too when asked what he got by looking over Alo iso.
That actually raises the question why chemist is still voting Alo if they cannot identify anything.
Question is does he even know. Does he look like a player that has even caught up.
If he is scum then alort is town. And scum is hard bussing him.
What happened to him last game were he repped into a scum slot. in game he mentioned 2119
And there he put more effort in.
Did you not see my posts where i asked chem if he agrees with alort lynch today. In it i pointed out his slot has vote on alort from rvs
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:21 pm
by Morning Tweet
Bob do you think scum is on the Chem wagon if chem is town?
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:22 pm
by bob3141
In post 686, davesaz wrote:Flailing when you aren't even being voted is pretty funny, ngl.
dave coming to the rescue during those sunny days. Where there just inst any shade.
How would people avoid sunburn without untrusty dave around
No one shade like dave with his trusty pencil
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:30 pm
by HoldenGolden
Bob can I ask a question?
If you feel pretty good about chemist being scum why are you voting dave in the last 36~ hours? I'm not knocking you for reading him, but you agree with the chemist lynch correct?
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:31 pm
by HoldenGolden
In post 687, bob3141 wrote: In post 681, HoldenGolden wrote: In post 583, Chemist1422 wrote:Not really
I couldn't tell what sort of stuff was playstyle and his answer to my question about his style was too vague to work with
And this too when asked what he got by looking over Alo iso.
That actually raises the question why chemist is still voting Alo if they cannot identify anything.
Question is does he even know. Does he look like a player that has even caught up.
If he is scum then alort is town. And scum is hard bussing him.
What happened to him last game were he repped into a scum slot. in game he mentioned 2119
And there he put more effort in.
Did you not see my posts where i asked chem if he agrees with alort lynch today. In it i pointed out his slot has vote on alort from rvs
Not practically no.
Wait do you have experience with him subbing in? Can you answer my earlier question them about it? I'm a bit confused by your wording as I'm not sure you are referring to a game he subbed into a scum or town role.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:32 pm
by HoldenGolden
Also WHEN did they sub in?
I think it is worth considering if the sub in occured page 3 vs page 10
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:48 pm
by bob3141
The question what is the scum nature of the wagon. its lurker wagon. Whether he is town or scum, its lurker a wagon.
Now since you asked for town condition
Now chemist when it hit
Gamma Emerald, Cat Scratch Fever, SirCakez, Hectic, profii
was a lurker wagon.
The question is would scum go heavy.
So far sircake is sure town read of mine. My strongest infact. I think profii is town.
I doubt more than one scum would of jumped on it at that stage. Shade it yes but not jump on.
Gamma Emerald, Cat Scratch Fever, Hectic
infact i think teh chemist wagon woudl have had more momentum with 2 scum voting. Scum votes act as glue.
The more votes the longer they stick around and faster they grow. Town votes tend to flake.
See menals game where scum tried to not get on wagons with 4 or more players. we had 13 different wagosn on 10 players during day one.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:51 pm
by Morning Tweet
In post 693, bob3141 wrote:
So far sircake is sure town read of mine. My strongest infact. I think profii is town.
is it possible you could elaborate on why you like profii!town?
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:55 pm
by Aloratom
In post 645, davesaz wrote:I called Aloratom traitor voting for scum Bob. Remember this if I get mislynched.
Huh?
In post 666, Aloratom wrote: In post 664, bob3141 wrote: In post 658, davesaz wrote: In post 278, davesaz wrote:I'm torn between treating this as a scummy thing from Alo, or thinking it points to Alo traitor signaling to (Bob IIRC?). I have no special reasons to suspect a traitor, but there are certain interactions that just ping and this is one of those categories.
I have thought this for a long time and nothing has happened to remove the thought.
And what are those thoughts?
See at no point have you actual said any reasons as to why you think im scum.
Explain how you have came to such a conclusion.
You say your thinking hasnt changed. Yet in reality you have not justified any of it.
Dave explain why one should take this as you simply trying to shade me
Is this why you are voting me, Dave? You think I'm traitor?
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:58 pm
by bob3141
In post 690, HoldenGolden wrote:Bob can I ask a question?
If you feel pretty good about chemist being scum why are you voting dave in the last 36~ hours? I'm not knocking you for reading him, but you agree with the chemist lynch correct?
I think chemist is blind slot.
You dont learn anything just going along with lulker lynchs.
If chemist is scum. No way scum woudlnt bus him.
If chemist is town it just lets town end up doing scum dirty work. while they just shade the slot
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:59 pm
by Hectic
In post 641, bob3141 wrote:VOTE: Dave
Time for more serous vote than mine on hectic.
Hectic if your not scum, so far every game together has been town town
Actually, we've had a game where you were scum and I was town. I was playing on an alt and you murdered me in cold blood on night 1. Flavor Leaf was in the game and mislynched Ankamius. I'm sure that rings a bell :v
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:00 pm
by Hectic
What do you think of my tictac case though, Bob?
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:01 pm
by Aloratom
Are you wondering why I'm asking Bob why he thought my RVS vote was an actual read?
