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In post 674, brighteningskies wrote:I think with so many checks and lots of potentially corrupt checks, the clairvoyant should probably come out if they're still alive lest we burn someone who's town when we're already running out of townsfolk at this point.

Let's wait for Fuzzy/WLC to confirm/deny being Wizard/Healer

I am neither....

my logic...
Unless Garlon was the clairvoyant then it safe to say the cop is still alive

Garlon died day one....since we got a result it likely Garlon was not the cop

MWNN/ Element was a claimed bard. Giving that there were no result last night it seems like the role is pretty confirmed.

Glitz was a wolf.... and if Insomnia was the Clairvoyant we would have gotten a result. The only way we would not get a result is if he was the innkeeper. Its possible but i doubt it. Seem likely the clairvoyant

Since the cop checked the town night 1 it seem likely they checked Pine.

Given that Pine role and he was likely checked ...it seems that he is in the clear.

our best option i(imho) to ballot Swift and WLC . We execute one and night check the other. i think A50 is town

Nah.

Balloting Fuzzy.

im for sure down for balloting fuzzy.

i wish we knew if it were pine or WLC who is clear. or if either of them is clear tbh.

@ Pine
How..... how is my logic bad. Please explain the flaw in my logic......There is zero reason to believe the Clairvoyant is dead. I am so confused how you came to that conclusion. I am confused about how anyone came to that conclusion. Please walk me through this bc this is fuzzy thinking even for me......

@Bright
Hmm...... I guess it is possible that the cop thought Glitz was scum and went along with it and did not last night. I still think it is likely that the cop is going along with the plan as it has been successful. I will still think the cop checked Pine last night until there is reason not too as this seems like the most likely situation. The cop maybe should claim if they did not check Pine last night. If not then we should assume it was indeed Pine that was checked. Can you give a reason why you think Pine was not the one that was checked or are you being paranoid? I am trying to figure where you are coming from here

TS
Huh..why would you think the cop checked anybody but Pine or WLC. This makes zero sense to me


I think a wolf is pushing me at this point. I have little reason to think other wise.....

In post 680, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:@ Pine
How..... how is my logic bad. Please explain the flaw in my logic......There is zero reason to believe the Clairvoyant is dead. I am so confused how you came to that conclusion. I am confused about how anyone came to that conclusion. Please walk me through this bc this is fuzzy thinking even for me......

@Bright
Hmm...... I guess it is possible that the cop thought Glitz was scum and went along with it and did not last night. I still think it is likely that the cop is going along with the plan as it has been successful. I will still think the cop checked Pine last night until there is reason not too as this seems like the most likely situation. The cop maybe should claim if they did not check Pine last night. If not then we should assume it was indeed Pine that was checked. Can you give a reason why you think Pine was not the one that was checked or are you being paranoid? I am trying to figure where you are coming from here

TS
Huh..why would you think the cop checked anybody but Pine or WLC. This makes zero sense to me


I think a wolf is pushing me at this point. I have little reason to think other wise.....

and is this wolf me, pine, or A50? because i think all of us are suspicious of you, and increasingly so in my case

In post 668, Almost50 wrote:So, assuming worst case scenario: Insomnia was the Innkeeper. However, if the Clairvoyant got a guilty they should out. If not then we can assume Pine is Town and move on.

I am undetermined.

Should we eliminate WLC or brightening skies today

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Taylor-
huh- A50 is not even pushing me. Second you have not answer why we should believe that the cop didn't check Pine...... It seems what is happening given the Glitch catch.

Tommorow is KSOL ( Kill scum or lose) we have two chances to kill scum..

I am not Wizard/Healer either.

Almost50 still feels the most likely town-candidate, and Pine has moved up the town-list with his claim (even though he was indicating MWNN might be Clairvoyant, while we're pretty sure it was the Bard).
Brigtheningskies would have been a very bold claim if not actually a Sinner, so still tempted to believe that

So I am still doubting between Taylor and Fuzzy to put on the ballot.
Fuzzy, any reason why you use Cop and Clairvoyant terminology, you mean the same with both right?

I’m ready to advance.

@ WLC
a) I dont feel like typing clairvoyant every time B) they ae pretty much the same role

Can you explain why I am ballot worthy

Edit on 684
we have two days left to (KSOL ) assuming there is only one scum left. Maybe it is not a good idea to math when half asleep.

In post 656, CreativeMod1 wrote:Insomnia died during the night

OK then, so, INSOMNIA was the Healer & Glitch was a . Pine is Clear because -obviously- the Innkeeper is still alive.

Give me a little time to figure the plan for today/tonight

In post 689, Almost50 wrote:

In post 656, CreativeMod1 wrote:Insomnia died during the night

OK then, so, INSOMNIA was the Healer & Glitch was a

Wolf Pup

.

I was attacked and healed last night.

Pine is Clear because -obviously- the Innkeeper is still alive.

Give me a little time to figure the plan for today/tonight

this makes sense, except i dont know why insomnia was necessarily the healer

What it means that I was targeted for a kill AND that Inso died is that we killed the Pup yesterday

What we all know now:

Pine is clear (and is Medium as he claimed because there's no reason for Town to lie)
Elements was Bard (as he claimed since he was both checked by Pine and killed by the Wolves)

What >I< : Insomnia was the Healer

This leaves me with:

brighteningskies (Corrupt but claimed Sinner)
Italiano (claimed Jester)
Swift+WLC+Fuzzy (But from each individual's PoV they can switch me with themselves)

From the four of us (Swift+WLC+Fuzzy+A50) there are 2 PRs (Clairvoyant+Innkeeper) and 2 "unknown"

This means if both the Clairvoyant and the Innkeeper claim we can eliminate one of the remaining 2 and get a check on the other.

If the eliminated is the Alpha Wolf we win. If we get a guilty instead then we still win. But what if we get a clear?? This means the Aloha Wolf is either skies or Italiano, and I suspect the town will mess it up (I myself would ALWAYS eliminate skies over Italiano in that scenario)

But what if we eliminate skies today and get a check on one of the "not Clairvoyant or Innkeeper"? If we get a guilty the game is over, and if not we eliminate the other.

I am not sure which is the better move here. Should we eliminate the already admitted Corrupt slot? Or should we go for one of the two unknowns?

I guess it's all the same in the end, but I need confirmation from others (Pine and Swift in particular) just in case I missed something.

P.S. @ Swift: It was clear to the Clairvoyant that the check should go on Pine with 4 votes there as per my last update.

In post 690, Tayl0r Swift wrote:

In post 689, Almost50 wrote:

In post 656, CreativeMod1 wrote:Insomnia died during the night

OK then, so, INSOMNIA was the Healer & Glitch was a

Wolf Pup

.

I was attacked and healed last night.

Pine is Clear because -obviously- the Innkeeper is still alive.

Give me a little time to figure the plan for today/tonight

this makes sense, except i dont know why insomnia was necessarily the healer

Because nobody else claimed Healer?? You, WLC & Fuzzy all claimed NOT Healer.

If it were up to me I'd still eliminate WLC today (based on my case from earlier when I wanted him checked). If the game doesn't end we are guaranteed a check result on Fuzzy, and if that is clear we eliminate skies. What do you guys think?

ok fair enough. i think we lunch in the unknowns.

wouldnt a mass-claim be helpful here?

In post 693, Almost50 wrote:If it were up to me I'd still eliminate WLC today (based on my case from earlier when I wanted him checked). If the game doesn't end we are guaranteed a check result on Fuzzy, and if that is clear we eliminate skies. What do you guys think?

i think its fine and support it. in that case we dont mass-claim until tomorrow?

A50 why did you ask if we are wizard?

In post 695, Tayl0r Swift wrote:

In post 693, Almost50 wrote:If it were up to me I'd still eliminate WLC today (based on my case from earlier when I wanted him checked). If the game doesn't end we are guaranteed a check result on Fuzzy, and if that is clear we eliminate skies. What do you guys think?

i think its fine and support it. in that case we dont mass-claim until tomorrow?

Doesn't matter. I'm fine either way

if you are clairvoyant then we should mass-claim because you die anyway. if you arent then maybe we should still mass-claim, because it basically solves the game. but im pretty sure you are the clairvoyant.

In post 696, Tayl0r Swift wrote:A50 why did you ask if we are wizard?

To conceal I was asking specifically for the Healer. I had "info" that wasn't readily available to scum (they knew their kill failed, but was it due to Healer, Witch or me drawing Hermit was unknown to them)