Mini 602: One-Shot MtG - game over!

[Incognito]

Official Vote Count

roflcopter (1) -- Natirasha

Not Voting (4) -- roflcopter, Mastermind of Sin, Xtoxm, Korlash

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch!

[Mastermind of Sin]

Yea, I took away rofl's vote. I was expecting there to be a kill last night, so I was going to force a no lynch with 4 alive (3 possible votes, 3 to lynch, if I withheld my vote we couldn't lynch), since that's the best play in that situation. With 5 alive, we have 2 lynches, so I think our best play is to get rid of Natirasha first (since rofl is at least marginally less likely to be scum than Nat at this point), and then rofl (but I don't think it will come to that.

Vote: Natirasha

[Korlash]

So... you got a card?

[Mastermind of Sin]

Off Balance.

[Korlash]

cool...t ahts believable... now all thats left if Nat to finish his...

[Xtoxm]

Yeh, it is...But I don't really see that as a pro-town ability.

I think Rofl makes good sense. I don't see any reason for the lack of a kill last night.

Vote MoS

[Korlash]

... which is why it's pretty imparative we get Nat to come clean with his targets as well.

Secondly, how is a kill (me) more pro-town then a vote stopper? How about the RBer (ooba)? If you look the scum have a double for that. One town Rber, one scum. In addition, if you believe MoS, you can think of him as one town negator to counter the scum's negater. you then think of the town having docs, vigs, and cops to counter mafia's NK and informed minority. And you can mre or less understand me, xtom, and Rofl's ability. like I said, a numbers game leaves Nat out of it every time. So don't jump on MoS just yet.

[Natirasha]

Kay, since we have 5 people left, this is one of those situations where me killing myself to confirm me town is the correct course of action. Just kill rofl tomorrow, please?

unvote, vote: Natirasha

[Korlash]

not thats you being gay...

look... just freaking come clean. Have you used your power? if so when? on who? and why?

If not, why? Seriously why the fuck not?

[Natirasha]

I have not used my power. Mostly because, last night, I had one choice-MoS-and he said not to use it.

[Korlash]

And your power was... what again?

[roflcopter]

if i could i surely would be voting natirasha right now

[Korlash]

o..k.. yeah so I was one of the two that wanted to keep playing... So don't be surprised when I call you all idiots... I didn't wait that long ass night to make today the shortest lategame day posible... dumbasses...

[Mastermind of Sin]

For the record, I didn't want Natirasha to use his ability to copy mine because it would leave us with only 2 votes today, had someone died, which isn't enough to get majority.

[Mastermind of Sin]

o..k.. yeah so I was one of the two that wanted to keep playing... So don't be surprised when I call you all idiots... I didn't wait that long ass night to make today the shortest lategame day posible... dumbasses...

I also chose to keep playing, mostly because I expected it would only take 1 more day to finish the game. I didn't expect the scum to withhold their kill.

[Korlash]

Well I can see like 5 different scenarios if I just randomly pick a low sounding number right here on the spot...

Either you(mos), Rofl, or Nat is scum and used your ability instead of kill.

Rofl is scum and a side effect of MoS's power is to stop the kill. This involves Town-MoS either lying or not being told something.

one of you three is scum and another is secretly a RBer/Protecter that stopped the kill. This relies on one of town lying so the possibility is low.

Last thing would be the scum gave up and just said "Fuck it," didn't kill anyone, and is now self-voting because he is lame... *looks at Nat* This involves around the theory someone would be a jackass piece of crap... so the possibility is low... Then again the current players are not the most... non-crap people now are they? ha ha ha... ahhh...

last would be Rofl being scum and did not kill to try and push the "nat or mos had to choose to kill or do ability!!!! thus they must be scum!!!!" thing... kinda iffy but a possibility. This kinda makes me wonder what happened to his ability if he was scum so the odds of this being the case seems even less then the last one...

oh right, you always have the possibility either me or Xtom is the last scum and just got a lucky beliveable claim... in which case we're screwed so ha ha ha... too bad for us... yay for either me or Xtom... /rolls eyes...

the cool thing is, we get to pick two of either Mos/nat/ or rofl and have a pretty damn good chance of winning, and or course endng the game asap.

my two picks would be Nat and MoS... probably nat today and mos tomorrow. And while I probably fake hate rofl enough to change my mind, as it stands I'd rather weigh in him as town then mos at this time.

However I have to rethink things now... Nat's power was... Copy? right... kept thiking it was some kind of switcher...

lets see... hmmm pro-town deck... build... protections... revive... copy... destroy.. counterspell...

Mafia deck... Counterspell... discard... and... see I would assume kill... but... we could call MoS -1/-1... which is sorta a bad power when thinking about it...

damn it would be so perfect but I can't fit the suicide bomber into it... a sac for damage thing... I mean it happens all the time... I suppose it's one of those protection for the greater glory type of thing... ohhhh... greater good... no no that works... fits our protection orriented theme... we pride defense... the doc, the hider, the protector... we have defenses... that would be the destroy and counterspell, along with combat tricks, the bomber... and we have revive for turn two... we call the copy another combat trick and we have a deck...

so theme wise I think MoS overtakes Nat... yatta! finally all those years of magia pays off... although still glad I stopped buying cards when I did... the new stuff is crap.

Well If the genral consensus is that we all give up and don't give a damn then I'm willing to trust my theme orriented skills of deduction and put my vote on MoS. although If thats the case, then I don;t give a damn anymore and we can lynch off nat first... Although if thats the case I would rather see Rofl dead... ha ha ha... >.>

[Mastermind of Sin]

If I was scum and had the ability I'm claiming, why would I claim to have it? On top of that, why would I forgo my kill to steal rofl's vote today? If I am scum, the correct strategy would have been to kill Xtoxm last night, push a no lynch today (as the correct strategy when 4 are alive and 1 scum left), and then steal rofl's vote the next day so that we woke up with 4 alive and only 3 votes, which means I could not be lynched. Then I could either convince people to use their lynch on rofl or Nat, or push for another no lynch to make myself look good by using protown strategy, and then get one or the other lynched the next day. Why would I waste my ability now, when it has almost no effect at all? It doesn't stop my lynch, because the other 3 players could still gang up on me, and I have now given the town 2 more lynches instead of reducing them to 1, which increases the chances of them winning if I am scum.

[Korlash]

Well you would claim to have it because once Rofl found out he didn't have a vote, if you didn't claim it then we would all know something was out of whack. Besides the argument that one power is more pro-town then another is off unless we try to boil this down to a pre-made "deck" for both sides. So I don't think you would have any fear of claiming that ability.

As far as that play goe, perhaps you cannot use your power in endgame for just that reason. Plus your going to have to argue why any scum would have forgone that night kill, as it did happen. So argue all you want abotu why you would have given us two lynches, its kkinda moot becuase why would ANYONE as scum do that? It happened, and I can safely assume it was becuase of a choice to use a power or not.

Other questions become, why didn't scum kill you? You claimed to still have power, yet did not reveal what it was. So why didn't scum kill you to keep you from using said power? The most obvious answer would be that they choose to kill one of the "sorta-confirmed" roles, i.e. me or Xtom. But that did not happen. So we have to fall back on, they didn't kill you to use their own power.

Besides, why would you kill Xtom over me? I've proven to be a lot more active then him and I sorta feel I was a key element in ouing Grimmy... so I think I would be the more obvious scum kill between the two... then again I have an inflated ego the sixe of Texas...

[roflcopter]

itt korlash destroys mos' argument

i'm gonna lose internet access for a long time, long enough that i'll need to be replaced, some time in the next ten days. i'd like to see scum lynched before that time.

i am still essentially powerless to actually help do that, but i can keep calling for more votes to be placed. mos and nat are equally viable lynches.

[Natirasha]

Rofl: Who do you want lynched first, me or MoS. I'm ok with either one.

[Korlash]

Well nat... I keep thinking that if you are scum you would have at least tried to push MoS as the lynch... if not at least commented on it... simply becuase of the thrashing you might get for being self hating scum... I mean if I was Roff or grimmy and you were my partner and you helped lynch yourself I'd be pissed...

So with that in mind I'll

Vote: MoS

I could be wrong... granted I usually am... but the more I think about it the more I see this as the best option...

[Natirasha]

Unvote, Vote: MoS

If MoS was town, he would gladly hammer himself.

[Korlash]

I dont think gladly is the right word...

[Incognito]

Final Vote Count of Day 4

Mastermind of Sin (3) -- Xtoxm, Korlash, Natirasha

Natirasha (1) -- Mastermind of Sin

Not Voting (1) -- roflcopter

Mastermind of Sin -- Off Balance, Vote Stopper -- Lynched Day 4

It is now Night 4. Please have all night actions to me within 72 hours. Day will begin in no less than 24 hours from this post and no more than 72 hours from this post.

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[Mastermind of Sin]

You guys are idiots. We deserve to lose this game.