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Posted: **Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:56 pm**

You know what I mean, verbal confirmation.

Posted: **Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:58 pm**

Yeah, I mean how dare I question the idea of likely the only role that has the ability of having verbal confirmation the confirmer is dead? I already said you're probably being truthful by probability why are you overreacting?

Posted: **Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:07 pm**

too late bud, you're done

Posted: **Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:09 pm**

lol ok, you've voted for 3 people in the last 2 hours.

Posted: **Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:10 pm**

Vote Count 2.4With 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to eliminate.

NoPowerOverMe

(3): OutWorldER, Alchemist21, Battle Mage

superbowl9

(2): Titus, Flavor Leaf

Flavor Leaf

(1): NoPowerOverMe

OutWorldER

(1): superbowl9

Not Voting

(4): wiyvern, hessian, Rannygazoo, Non lmh

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Posted: **Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:19 pm**

In post 676, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Yeah, I mean how dare I question the idea of likely the only role that has the ability of having verbal confirmation the confirmer is dead? I already said you're probably being truthful by probability why are you overreacting?

There are two ways to prove it: have andres confirm it, or have everyone else confirm that they weren’t neighborized.

Everyone is letting the claim stand instead of counterclaiming, so what else do you want?

Posted: **Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:21 pm**

Nothing I said he was probably telling the truth.

Posted: **Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:22 pm**

In post 680, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 676, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Yeah, I mean how dare I question the idea of likely the only role that has the ability of having verbal confirmation the confirmer is dead? I already said you're probably being truthful by probability why are you overreacting?
There are two ways to prove it: have andres confirm it, or have everyone else confirm that they weren’t neighborized.

Everyone is letting the claim stand instead of counterclaiming, so what else do you want?

WHY DOES IT EVEN MATTER? BEING A NEIGHBOUR IS NOT REMOTELY ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE! omg...

Posted: **Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:23 pm**

im seriously regretting this massclaim, what a load of shit

Posted: **Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:24 pm**

In post 683, Battle Mage wrote:im seriously regretting this massclaim, what a load of shit

If it’s any consolation, I think you’re a lovely chap

Posted: **Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:27 pm**

thanks man, that does make me feel better

Posted: **Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:28 pm**

let's run NPOM up, and see if he tries to claim neighbour.

Posted: **Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:36 pm**

Are you worried I'll claim neighbor?

Posted: **Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:43 pm**

lol dude you're actually trolling me now

there is a 0% likelihood BM fakeclaims neighbour. If somebody actually tried to counter-claim to 1v1 with me, I think it's fairly obvious they'd be elimmed first anyway, so it wouldn't matter.

To fully answer your question, I'd find it hilarious if you fakeclaimed neighbour after concluding you believe the claim but also subtly shading me.

To be perfectly blunt, I just think you haven't really understood what a neighbour claim means, and I'm erring more towards your mistake being an example of unbridled scum opportunism, rather than bloodthirsty misguided town.

Posted: **Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:47 pm**

it's a sweet irony that half the reason I was letting NPOM off the hook today was because that was what Andresvmb would have wanted.

Posted: **Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:51 pm**

In post 664, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 662, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 659, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 656, Flavor Leaf wrote:but how did he say you were the towniest?
he said it in the PT before he died. or do you mean, how did he describe it?
Why was the PT created before he targeted you, is what I’m asking.
dunno, he had it since start of day 1, but didnt post in it until start of night 1

hmm, that's odd. I thought it gets created when they succeed.

Posted: **Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:57 pm**

I didn't make any mistake. I specifically said you were probably telling the truth. I don't know how many times I need to say that and why you're misrepping me.

Posted: **Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:57 pm**

Not sure how I feel about this because I kind of want myself to die instead of NPOM, if we go with NPOM and he's town I'll be next and have to actually play but if I flip green I feel like we might be able to get off the current track we're on. I guess I have to scumclaim harder

Posted: **Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:37 am**

In post 691, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I didn't make any mistake. I specifically said you were probably telling the truth. I don't know how many times I need to say that and why you're misrepping me.

If you were sure that he was telling the truth then why continue to set up this push on him.

In post 668, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I'm not saying they're mechanically related, I'm saying it's possible you're using a townie's death to validate your claim. The fact that andres can't back up your claim for you makes me second guess you. Probability indicates you are telling the truth, but it just seems like a strange string of events to me.

In post 687, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Are you worried I'll claim neighbor?

I seriously don't know how you can read these posts as anything but trying to discredit/setup a push on BM.

The entire premise for this line of questioning is dumb anyways since BM wouldn't have known he was neighborized until actions were resolved.

Posted: **Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:50 am**

^ this

Posted: **Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:52 am**

I'm kinda meh on the NPOM wagon. I'm not scumreading anyone on it (including FL as he would vote it). I just don’t think it'll hit scum. I haven't seen a major inconsistent statement that suggest he's scum, unlike my actual scumreads.

Posted: **Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:56 am**

--Prodding Non lmh, hessian, and wiyvern.

Posted: **Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:58 am**

Spoiler: Quote Tree from Non

In post 232, Non lmh wrote:
In post 64, Titus wrote:
In post 61, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 49, Titus wrote:
In post 47, benhalkum wrote:
In post 44, Titus wrote:
In post 42, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 38, Titus wrote:
In post 36, Battle Mage wrote:my initial suggestion would be...it's very early to draw a conclusion one way or another about Titus' alignment in this game, especially based on the 1-game meta cited and given she only has a couple of non-AI posts.
And this needed saying because?

All you're doing is stopping scum from whiteknighting me based on flimsy evidence and exposing themselves.
...what's the reason behind your entrance being a tad on the aggressive side? I've previously known you to be a lot more moderate and composed as town.

To actually respond to your point, I didn't stop anyone doing anything, by giving a view on something which had already happened.
I'm in a no bullshit mood and I am sick of getting nightkilled day one and then praying people solve without me.
Sick of being night killed on day one but ok with making yourself a target?

I mean, unless you know you're safe at night
Well, if I am making myself a target, then I am obvtowning.

However, no one nightkills the class know it all.

So therefore my goal is to be right, vocal and brash. This prevents scum from lynching or killing me. Well if they do, town will know exactly where I stand and can sheep it.
Making yourself a target and obvtowning are not necessarily the same thing. If you play in a way which is vocal and brash, you may be a target even if you are not obvtown, as I have learnt in the past. The idea that you wouldn't be NKed at some point in this game is a strange one to be peddling at this stage, especially if you plan to deliberately play in a way where scum might be more likely to kill you. Are you trying to sow the seeds early to justify why you dont get killed?
None of that is what I am saying though. Listen for the love of all that is good, stop typing and start thinking.

I'm not saying I'll never be nightkilled. I am saying I am going to force scum into a bad situation if they kill me night 1 because I am sick of it happening.
made me think you know who scum is

Ben says a post makes me think I knew the scum team.

In post 239, Titus wrote:@non imh, what about that post made you think I knew the scumteam?

Why are you not commenting on any of the recent content?

In post 240, Titus wrote:In fact, your ISO goes backwards from commenting on Alch's 98 to my 64. That makes your posting look a lot less genuine.

This type of inconsistency and then leaving is an example of the type of inconsistency I am looking for.

Posted: **Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:24 am**

*Ben = Non

Posted: **Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:38 am**

We only have 3 posts to go on, but I don’t really see it as non-genuine. Non said they didn’t get something, looked back to try and understand it, and wound up with more questions.

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