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In post 13, Marashu wrote:

In post 8, MURDERCAT wrote:Also if someone could explain how to actually approach this setup that would be great. I'm guessing wolves first and try to go into good nightless numbers is ideal because there won't be cross kills? But I'm not sure how we actually manage to control that

We don't? I'm not sure what you're asking here. We hunt scum, and try to figure it out from there.

VOTE: Taly

In retrospect, I think it's weird how fixated Mara was about me talking about this with no discussion of Titus talking about it with me. Maybe I am too tunneled on Titus? This is one of the ways I like to start open setups because it gives us something to talk about so I don't think it's weird at all, but if it is weird shouldn't it also be weird that Titus is discussing it too? Also, if this is apparently weird why is the vote on Taly instead of me?

In post 27, Titus wrote:

Taly is at E minus 1

I feel like this is LAMIST in retrospect. As Titus admits it's not her normal play.

In post 31, JacksonVirgo wrote:Cat that does murder... sounds a lot like an evil but wolves are dogs so they're the Mafia!

VOTE: MURDERCAT

I wonder if JV had read at this point and chose not to join the Taly wagon or if he just wasn't aware.

In post 37, Klick wrote:I'll admit I'm tempted.
Reading up real quick, lecture's about to start though so it might be a bit.

This is kind of sketchy but like, you wouldn't say this as scum right? It's just kind of dumb to say.

In post 42, Klick wrote:Titus is my best guess for scum on the wagon atm. Weird sheep without comment, and then the fuss about E-1 without unvoting.
MURDERCAT's vote seems NAI, and tbh I'd expect Battle Mage to do the E-1 vote as any alignment. The sus votes are in the middle, when the wagon is actually being talked about as a wagon. A decent question at this point is, is there anyone adding pressure on you that wouldn't have done so as town? If so it's going to be somewhere in {PlusJOYED, Marashu, Titus, Klyne}.

But also there's almost certainly bound to be town guiding the wagon as well

I still think that I like the conclusion about Titus but taking BM out for free here is still super weird to me.

In post 50, Klyne wrote:Was thinking some good thoughts but most of them come to

Well does Kilck really think that an innocuous RVS wagon would have some deeper meaning to it, or is he merely postulating? Is it..sincere? Maybe he just really hates RVS and enjoys the sounds that come out of his RGB LED Mechanical Gaming Keyboard"

In post 51, Titus wrote:I had a townread on Kylne until his italics post.

I don't think there is anything AI in that at all. I wasn't sure how serious Titus was about this but evidently the answer was pretty serious??

In post 55, Taly wrote:lso feel iffy with the assertion that i am town based on the wagon

/shrug I still think that if Taly is scum there would have been more JV votes and fewer BM votes.

In post 68, PlusJOYED wrote:

In post 27, Titus wrote:

Taly is at E minus 1

In post 28, MURDERCAT wrote:Isn't it E-2?

It was E-2. I think murder being on point/correcting is NAI but I think titus being wrong (votes less than 1) is an association if taly ever flips non-town. But on it's own it's probably a towntell since mistakes usually come from town.

I think this is silly. The idea is Titus purposely tried to slow the wagon while still voting for it? I don't think and unvote there looks that weird if that was her goal.

It's funny that tracy basically did 79 in our last game and was scum, but here I think you are towny for it. I think because you do into more effort and are providing actual thoughts.

In post 85, iamausername wrote:ding ding ding

VOTE: Klyne

Username definitely doesn't care about perceptions

In post 90, Marashu wrote:Hm. Early takes right now: I'm thinking Titus is town. I was townleaning Taly based on reactions to the wagon until I saw the post about meta reads. That one makes me feel apprehensive (though I can at least promise that I will not be reading through those games to fact-check). I'm feeling scum!murdercat is a very real possibility. I'm also getting gut scumpings from Klick, but I also know BM is better than me at finding scum. Klick did have a good point about Klyne, though.

Light TL on Plus. Deas might be scum? So right now I'm feeling {Murdercat, Klick, Klyne, Deas} with one more to find.

UNVOTE:

P-Edit: VOTE: Klyne - now explain your vote.

Wrong side of Titus/Taly still I think.

In post 113, DeasVail wrote:That makes me feel a little guilty honestly

I should have pushed DV for more thoughts here, he read up but kind of ignored the major events of the early game.

In post 118, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 114, clidd wrote:Page 1>

- Ping on post 8 (mc), it is common sense to know that town only has scumhunt, while the scum side (maf, ww) needs to better understand the setup to be able to play properly.

- I didn't like Taly's answer very much and I can understand the increase in votes on him.

Page 2>

- I had a strange feeling reading Jackson's posts, but I don't classify it as ping.

- Positive impression of Klick and MC.

- Taly has not improved in the posts and I feel that Titus is very apathetic in the sense of WIM.

Page 3>

- BM, Klyne and PlusJOYED void.

- Delay on vote by Titus is towny.

Page 4>

- Um, I don't know how to read Taly.

And.. That's it. I don't think I will do more than that. Maybe I'll adapt to the real-time chat.

VOTE: Titus

I'm having many mixfeelings right now, but I want to sort this first ^

I see your analysis

I see your vote

Reconcile the two? I cannot see it.

Did you mean to Vote Taly?

I wonder if I am being pocketed by clidd, I recently was told I am susceptible to pocketing
BM does have a good point here.

In post 123, Battle Mage wrote:I believe ORAM is scum.

This is important to remember for later

In post 135, ORAM wrote:I like Taly and clidd for town. Klick and DV too, though not as strongly.

Marashu, talk to me about 90 because most of those reads are the opposite of how I feel.

I'm not exactly a hyperposter, but I'll be around for a while rn. Anyone on, let's talk

Also important for later.

In post 144, clidd wrote:Your townpool is basically what I'm thinking too.

Maybe Clidd is trying to buddy up to Taly here too? I have to look at how he approaches Titus later because it looked like a kind of towny wavering to me but maybe it wasn't.

In post 172, Titus wrote:I feel awkward bragging but my scum game is usually better than that.

I wonder if this is Titus trying to lessen some pressure by saying "you wouldn't catch me as scum." I do that as town a lot actually, I wonder if she would do it as scum.

In post 176, Klyne wrote:Back

I'm leaving you guys a freebie on Marashu. This isn't the greatest catch but I'm feeling charitable.

Marashu saw an impending wagon on my slot and tried to push me. Bad news: He didn't expect for me to bring the tea. Noob scum thought I'd just lie over and take his fdnsjkanfsd vote

ANYWAYS

I already talked about why it sucks, but I'm gonna tell you why everything else sucks. Look at the way he disengages from me. That is NOT a conscious town who made a mistake, it's scum who realized they were biting off more than they chew. He says he hates being wrong and that I still have a chance being scum. Fine. Great. Cool. Great. Whatever. Fine. Cool.

Then as if nobody heard him he says "w-well that fake E-1 post seemed pretty genuine" and here I'm thinking OK, let's see what this dope does

HE FUCKING UNVOTES
I'm going back to swearing btw fuck you
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I tell him why I don't like Titus and now the dude doesn't even seem interested at all. His posts following that is completely dodging the issue like it never fucking happened. NOOB SCUM FEAR. He didn't expect me to throw the ball back at him. You don't show up to play ball and then decide you can't hang with Michael Jordan after all

I will dunk on you
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I really really really dislike the way he engages other playesrs, like clidd. He's just all like "OH hey buddy please townread me" proceeds to make a bunch of uncharitable quoteposts busywokr JUST VOTE MURDERCAT YOU'RE AFRAID OF MAKINg THE SAME MISTAKE TWICE

This really feels like town with a strong read to me. If only I knew who you were I'd know if you are good enough to fake this

In post 205, MURDERCAT wrote:My heart says Taly is town posting but he's also one of the players I don't trust myself to read well given recent experience.

A few days later and this feeling has mostly passed.

In post 214, Titus wrote:

In post 212, MURDERCAT wrote:

In post 209, Titus wrote:What do you think of my wagon?

Like this is a weird thing to ask someone on the wagon right? I don't get where these questions are coming from.

I'm using players as a sounding board to get a feel for them.

For instance, I feel like scum from both factions are on my wagon. At first, I thought it was just one faction but the votes on me are from people who have lazy positions at best, which is exactly why I was supposedly voted.

I'm getting this weird feeling on this page that Titus is talking to me as if she knows I'm town even though that's not actually possible. But she would probably have a pretty good idea still as scum.

In post 215, Titus wrote:For instance, this is lazy and agreeing with almost every wagon but Kylne.
Very sheepish and not really solving.

Seems like Titus is happy with the ORAM wagon that develops later.

In post 224, Titus wrote:Now, I feel like this conversation is a bit like pulling teeth to get a reads discussion and a feel for you. It feels rather oppositional.

Like this is what I'm talking about. In one post it seems like Titus is addressing me as a strong TR and then she comes back with this where she apparently needs to get a feel for me?