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In post 670, RationalMadman wrote:Btw if I die at night know this: JacksonVirgo is not towntelling if Andante is real Doc. Everything they (pronoun they/them, referring to the single JV, not to Andante) have done is what Scum who want to towntell hard later on would play the situations they've been in.


From the start of thr day phase to now, JacksonVirgo has appeared to have an agenda to force me to back away from Andante or to frame me as scum. When Andante outs as Doc, JV instantly believes it and puts on a spectacular display of aggression but why? Why were they so hostile ans sure? Why is it that since then, JV has merely dedicated to pushinge to feel unhappy rather than contribute anything worthwile?

Odd. It's all odd. T3 also is odd for other reasons a d that team JV and T3 would have played the day how they did... Hmm

I see what you're saying, but I believe that Jackson has a defensive way of approaching things. Which can easily be seen as passive aggressive. I'm not set on this but I've seen enough to warrant this being the case.

Although I have Jackson as town right now I can see them playing the buddy card because if scum, they know its true.
I don't see anything to back this up yet though.
Does Jackson only flip scum on an Andante town flip?

T3 I agree, this is different posting to what I'm used to. However, T3 is always LHF I find, and can be seen as an easy mis lim. But I'm not impressed yet.

i missed the hammer sorry

In post 651, VFP wrote:It seems like Rathe is trying to scare people from voting T3 hoping we move else where.

this doesnt make sense im not being vague i said what i said get T3 to e4 n i will hammer

Well stick around and T3 will be back.

In post 678, Rathe wrote:this doesnt make sense im not being vague i said what i said get T3 to e4 n i will hammer

Then vote T3, and I'll hammer if I'm not satisfied with the discussion.

In post 666, VFP wrote:

@Demainer

T3 read?

t3 leaned town to me at sod, they were willing to speak their mind to the point of antagonizing other players (including myself), which I don't see coming from newbie scum. When others pointed out they were acting scum, they didn't back down in the thread and continued to post the same way, which is a strong town indicator to me. Newbie scum would just hide and make themselves more agreeable when confronted (similar to what orc is doing now, after a big entrance).

But his play has fallen a bit since andante's claim, he's been sheeping for the most part and the progressions in some of his reads are weak. So ironically, I'm scumleaning him for similar reasons to why I townleaned him in the first place, but this is mostly because the thread has changed, and t3's response does not give me town vibes. I don't see the aggressive t3 that I liked back at sod. Still townleaning him for the most part, but very close to null.

In post 651, VFP wrote:If T3 is scum I think Rathe has a good chance of his buddy.

how n y

In post 674, orctin wrote:Demainer, i didnt jump the wagon, i started it if you check the votes. If he flips turn, ill be the first person everyone blames. And took him till 4 votes up to try to fight against it.

But i do love how your distraction from t3 is to come after me.

This reads like you already know t3 will flip town.

You may have been the first to vote up t3, but you weren't the first to fos him, which is the main point here. You rehashed the same things everyone had already said earlier in the thread, and slapped a vote on it.

In post 680, VFP wrote:Then vote T3, and I'll hammer if I'm not satisfied with the discussion.

no i will do it

In post 682, Rathe wrote:

In post 651, VFP wrote:If T3 is scum I think Rathe has a good chance of his buddy.

how n y

Well for a start, I don't think you scum read T3. You saying you will hammer means nothing when you are just wasting your vote.
Put a vote on T3 if you're scum reading there.

Your approach to the whole Doc claim feels fake and you're just trying to be in rationals shadow so Rational takes the blame on a mid lim.

You trying to hint at being a counter PR without a CC it was scummy because it gives you an easy fall back of just being wrong town.

And did I mention you are sitting a vote on someone you know we aren't going.to lim today? It's because you don't want to make reasons to justify a vote swap, and instead hope to lay under the radar.

Maybe I'm wrong, I'll listen.

In post 684, Rathe wrote:

In post 680, VFP wrote:Then vote T3, and I'll hammer if I'm not satisfied with the discussion.

no i will do it

Is there some bonus im unaware of about being the final vote, lol

In post 684, Rathe wrote:

In post 680, VFP wrote:Then vote T3, and I'll hammer if I'm not satisfied with the discussion.

no i will do it

Well if you happen to disappear after T3 gets back (I think it's soon?) Then I'll just push for you lim.
The fact you won't vote T3 says it all. If he's scum it shouldn't matter who votes.

In post 685, VFP wrote:Maybe I'm wrong, I'll listen.

u r wrong i dont care about being wrong i dont think i am n i dont care about changing votes

In post 688, Rathe wrote:u r wrong i dont care about being wrong i dont think i am

I mean.. you wanna yeet the person claiming doc here...

In post 688, Rathe wrote:

In post 685, VFP wrote:Maybe I'm wrong, I'll listen.

u r wrong i dont care about being wrong i dont think i am n i dont care about changing votes

Solid case.

Rathe started out towny, and his posts almost felt like reasonable thought streaming. Ht eAndante claimed doc. Rathe immediately votes. I took it as a doc soft, and I think Rational did for some time. But it basically turned in to single minded tunnelling. With Rational yelling Doc doesnot have to claim, and Andante got townier and townier. Rathe then effectively does not comment on anything, anyone's reads and just says: "I will hammer t3 you must vote this" Rathe's reasoning for voting Andante, the claim being antitown isn't actually valid. If everything antitown is scummy (I may be thinking of something else) then you not making a readlist is scummy.Doesn't make sense. And that's basicslly why I scumread Rathe.

i vote for mafia

Okay, possible scum teams are as follows with T3 and Rathe.

T3 + Ivy
T3 + Jackson (don't mistake my town read here)
T3 + Demainer
T3 + Orc (though this is weak)

Rathe + Ivy
Rathe + Demainer
Rathe + Orc

I changed my mind on T3 and Rathe as buddies.

In post 692, Rathe wrote:i vote for mafia

There's 2 mafia.
I dont think you get it. I don't care if you don't vote with me, I care that you park your vote and refuse any attempt to solve.
If Andante is scum, then Andante has a scum buddy.

This is what makes me have doubt as you town.

In post 693, VFP wrote:T3 + Ivy
T3 + Jackson (don't mistake my town read here)
T3 + Demainer
T3 + Orc (though this is weak)

reads on these players?

In post 691, T3 wrote:then you not making a readlist is scummy.Doesn't make sense

not making a readslist is not anti town especially when u give thoughts on slots

i dont make readslist n i dont write paragraphs

In post 694, VFP wrote:I care that you park your vote and refuse any attempt to solve.

just cuz i dont give all my thoughts doesnt mean im not solving if i think ur mafia i will vote u