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My biggest worry so far is that I townread both CheekyTeeky and Prism. Self-voting is like so scummy and cross-voting is not right to me either. I would have wanted to vote camelCasedSnivy to see if CheekyTeeky is right about them being on the scum team, but then that would get me eliminated Day 3, and I don't want to get eliminated or NKed, as a matter of fact. So I'll just wait for somebody else to vote before voting.

In post 667, MargotRosa wrote:

In post 609, catboi wrote:

In post 608, MargotRosa wrote:I made clear that I didn't understand the Reg wagon in 401 and wanted clarification of where it had come from, because something seemed off. Given that noone could give me an adequate explanation of why it had happened, I decided to distrust it.

Then I'm not sure why you "retracted" your hate for the wagon, then, without being given so much as an explanation.

I didn't retract my hate for the wagon. I retracted my hate for the fact that Cheeky didn't mention it was e-1, because it wasn't e-1, and the thing I mentioned hating didn't happen. I always hated the wagon

In post 464, MargotRosa wrote:I don't know why I thought it was 4 to elim d1. Apologies. I retract my hate

You, again, appear to be contradicting your own words. Your actions mostly look like retroactive justification that doesn't hold water as any sort of believable thought process. The fact that you never even stated a read on Reg looks like you were positioning yourself against the wagon to look good later then blame others, and not that you had any sort of legitimate townread of RegRider. You can call your thoughts "stream of consciousness" but that doesn't absolve you from having to back them up at all and the fact that you continue to try to minimize this rather than produce any follow through suggests to me it's not a real thought.

In post 675, RH9 wrote:My biggest worry so far is that I townread both CheekyTeeky and Prism. Self-voting is like so scummy and cross-voting is not right to me either. I would have wanted to vote camelCasedSnivy to see if CheekyTeeky is right about them being on the scum team, but then that would get me eliminated Day 3, and I don't want to get eliminated or NKed, as a matter of fact. So I'll just wait for somebody else to vote before voting.

...why do you find cheeky's arguments for camel being scum convincing?

In post 672, Prism wrote:so uh

catboi

whatchu thinkin

hope the weather's nice outside 4 u

I legitimately want to kill almost anyone, despite my stated reads, camel's refusal to do absolutely anything is incredibly bothersome, connor only 3 posts this phase is a bad look and his reads list felt like a cheap gloss over the thread, it did not give me the sense of someone who cares to get more meaningfully involved

In post 673, RH9 wrote:Uh, what are we supposed to do? Day 2 feels so quiet. Is this normal? Also, should I vote anybody? There's apparently two days until Night 3. camelCasedSnivy seems quieter than Day 1. But this isn't scummy, right? Like they claimed like Vanilla Town already. Also, I am tempted to cross-vote but that just feels scummy to me. Like unless you know the person who's voting you is Mafia, voting them just feels wrong.

No, this isn't normal, I have been trying to provide input but I cannot pull a game along by myself

In post 678, catboi wrote: camel's refusal to do absolutely anything is incredibly bothersome

sorry I just dont know what to do ;-;
ill try to contribute more and make a revamped reads list but first ima go eat dinner

but judging from this, RH9, catboi and Prism are like the only people playing and its hilarious

I'm basically in the same boat. I have some rough order of preference but cat can fake everything so far and I can barely understand the last 6/7 posts of RH9, and without some more opinionated play from him he will always be a question mark.

In post 675, RH9 wrote:but then that would get me eliminated Day 3, and I don't want to get eliminated or NKed, as a matter of fact.

Only scum (except for when im scum) worry about dying. Even if it is mylo if we mc again i think still a bit suspicious

In post 677, catboi wrote:

In post 675, RH9 wrote:My biggest worry so far is that I townread both CheekyTeeky and Prism. Self-voting is like so scummy and cross-voting is not right to me either. I would have wanted to vote camelCasedSnivy to see if CheekyTeeky is right about them being on the scum team, but then that would get me eliminated Day 3, and I don't want to get eliminated or NKed, as a matter of fact. So I'll just wait for somebody else to vote before voting.

...why do you find cheeky's arguments for camel being scum convincing?

I just found it that if camelCasedSnivy or me both flip Town, CheekyTeeky's going to lose credibility but so would MargotRosa if I flip Town.

In post 682, Prism wrote:I'm basically in the same boat. I have some rough order of preference but cat can fake everything so far and I can barely understand the last 6/7 posts of RH9, and without some more opinionated play from him he will always be a question mark.

So I should start making more sense?

In post 684, RH9 wrote:

In post 677, catboi wrote:

In post 675, RH9 wrote:My biggest worry so far is that I townread both CheekyTeeky and Prism. Self-voting is like so scummy and cross-voting is not right to me either. I would have wanted to vote camelCasedSnivy to see if CheekyTeeky is right about them being on the scum team, but then that would get me eliminated Day 3, and I don't want to get eliminated or NKed, as a matter of fact. So I'll just wait for somebody else to vote before voting.

...why do you find cheeky's arguments for camel being scum convincing?

I just found it that if camelCasedSnivy or me both flip Town, CheekyTeeky's going to lose credibility but so would MargotRosa if I flip Town.

You have expressed a townread on cheekyteeky and a willingness to follow her and I'm not sure I understand why.

In post 342, CheekyTeeky wrote:Mine would be:
Town {DTX, Margot}
Town lean {flow, RH9, camel}
Scum lean {Regrider, Connor, Prism}

Can we get an update on this? Do you have any townreads at the moment, and I'm especially curious as to what you make of some of the lapses in memory Margot has made.

The apathy in this game is pretty overwhelming. I've worked over the game 2/3 times now and haven't come away with any strong feeling about virtually , just slight feelings akin to pulling names out of hats. cat has the best content but has been "wrong" in his interactions with me and I've been bitten by it before.

I'm down to vote virtually anyone at this point. Not only do I not know who the best flip is but we're not even putting anyone in danger to find out.

VOTE: Margot

In post 686, catboi wrote:

In post 684, RH9 wrote:

In post 677, catboi wrote:

In post 675, RH9 wrote:My biggest worry so far is that I townread both CheekyTeeky and Prism. Self-voting is like so scummy and cross-voting is not right to me either. I would have wanted to vote camelCasedSnivy to see if CheekyTeeky is right about them being on the scum team, but then that would get me eliminated Day 3, and I don't want to get eliminated or NKed, as a matter of fact. So I'll just wait for somebody else to vote before voting.

...why do you find cheeky's arguments for camel being scum convincing?

I just found it that if camelCasedSnivy or me both flip Town, CheekyTeeky's going to lose credibility but so would MargotRosa if I flip Town.

You have expressed a townread on cheekyteeky and a willingness to follow her and I'm not sure I understand why.

To be fair, the main problem for me is that CheekyTeeky's reaction to my Day 1 activities was so towny that the only thing she did to dampen this feeling is stating that camelCasedSnivy is Mafia with me. But then, I really want to know if MargotRosa is Mafia. This means that I'm going to vote the person who I townread the least. VOTE: MargotRosa

And know it is E-1.

In post 676, catboi wrote:

In post 667, MargotRosa wrote:

In post 609, catboi wrote:

In post 608, MargotRosa wrote:I made clear that I didn't understand the Reg wagon in 401 and wanted clarification of where it had come from, because something seemed off. Given that noone could give me an adequate explanation of why it had happened, I decided to distrust it.

Then I'm not sure why you "retracted" your hate for the wagon, then, without being given so much as an explanation.

I didn't retract my hate for the wagon. I retracted my hate for the fact that Cheeky didn't mention it was e-1, because it wasn't e-1, and the thing I mentioned hating didn't happen. I always hated the wagon

In post 464, MargotRosa wrote:I don't know why I thought it was 4 to elim d1. Apologies. I retract my hate

You, again, appear to be contradicting your own words. Your actions mostly look like retroactive justification that doesn't hold water as any sort of believable thought process. The fact that you never even stated a read on Reg looks like you were positioning yourself against the wagon to look good later then blame others, and not that you had any sort of legitimate townread of RegRider. You can call your thoughts "stream of consciousness" but that doesn't absolve you from having to back them up at all and the fact that you continue to try to minimize this rather than produce any follow through suggests to me it's not a real thought.

I agree that the process around the wagon (very randomly strong read, retroactive justification) isn't the best but I don't think there's much contradiction with the claim about hatred w/r/t the wagon vs. Cheeky's vote. I was skeptical but reviewing Margot's posts around Cheeky's vote it actually lines up.

In post 690, RH9 wrote:And know it is E-1.

THANK GOD YOU SAID THIS I WAS ALMOST GONNA HAMMER

I want Margot to give one final response as to the reasons they are being voted before I potentially hammer.

VOTE: Camel
I'm here going to reread the game now. Hammering is a scumclaim.

In post 54, camelCasedSnivy wrote:I agree that a PoE of 5 is very agreesive but I don't think it means they are mafia.

In post 93, camelCasedSnivy wrote:

In post 92, RH9 wrote:I have to say that I pretty much read everybody town so far. However, I'm not sure what makes camelCasedSnivy, CheekyTeeky, or DaTacoX, mafia. I do find it confusing why camelCasedSnivy read themselves as Mafia. I have to say that these reads might change later.

Never said DTX was mafia. Cheeky probs is mafia bc of their poe and their bw and also you really took my self suspicion seriously.

This doesn't line up. You think my PoE is not scum indicative until I vote you where the PoE then suddenly becomes another reason to scumread me.

In post 231, camelCasedSnivy wrote:VOTE: camelCasedSnivy for funsies and also they a bit sus
wanna see what people think of this

What did you gain from this in the end? I don't see anything in your ISO that proves it was to gain reads rather than manipulate people with wifom by self-voting.

In post 314, camelCasedSnivy wrote:

In post 283, DaTacoX wrote:VOTE: RegRider

I'll agree with flow trap on this one.
And, once again as a side note... Pressuring someone doesn't work if you tell them that's what you are doing.

Just wanna point this out, "I'll agree with flow trap on this one" seems a bit suspicious to me because given RegRider gets eliminated and they flip Town, scum would blame flow trap in this situation for proposing the idea despite not following the other ones which could've resolved in a Mafia flip.



...or I'm thinking about this way too hard. Who knows

Gross shading in anticipation of a reg town flip.

In post 381, camelCasedSnivy wrote:

In post 375, DaTacoX wrote: What makes you two think RegRider isn't scummy?

I have a null read on Reg rn but a lot of ppl think they're scummy so was just curious.

In post 384, camelCasedSnivy wrote:btw my updated reads i think
- Town -
flow trap
Margort (idk how to spell)
DaTacoX
Connordragon07
CheekyTeeky
RH9
RegRider and Prism (based on other ppl)
camelCasedSnivy
- Mafia -

In post 402, camelCasedSnivy wrote:Same, no one has explained to me why RegRider is scummy.

In post 404, camelCasedSnivy wrote:Ok that's pretty stupid imo

In post 415, camelCasedSnivy wrote:To me that is not really alignment-indicative. But VOTE: RegRider just because the other reasons are good.

Progression sucks.

Like how do you shade the same person you buy reasoning from to vote. Using others reasoning as justification to vote rather than just consolidating gives away a need to cover their behind since they know reg is flipping town.

In post 600, camelCasedSnivy wrote:

In post 596, catboi wrote:If you think there was scum on the RegRider wagon, why is your focus on RH9?

Tbh RH9 is acting a bit too much on his posts imo as well as stating the obvious (like being sad about losing 2 VTs)

RH9/camel not SvS.