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In post 612, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 598, Roden wrote:

In post 527, Flavor Leaf wrote:Man, this human's obsessed with me.

@Roden - wasn't that serious

So much FL talk when I was away, that's what I like to see. Even when I'm not here, the spotlight loves me

Nah you don't get to backpedal after you made several solves that make me a PoE choice without explaining anything.

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

This is probably coming from town who hasn't learned how to look past getting POE scum read as a personal thing.

I'm not invested enough in this game to care that you scum read me.

What does matter is that you kept trying to tie me in to multiple solves, never explained why, then backed off when nobody bit and you got confronted on it.

My vote stays!

Busy day, won't be on til later in an ideal world. Im probably just gonna post anyway.

In post 674, ItalianoVD wrote:@koopa: What was your case on Scorpious? I don’t wanna tell you mine and possibly give scum!you ammo.

Mainly, I think they are detached from the game in a way that is wolfy and their mindset is very shallow etc.
As well as the majority of his posts being complaints about others with little to no solving.

Even if you give me "ammo" you should know that if the push is on what would be my partner in that scenario - you make it harder to retract my push.

In post 675, Roden wrote:

In post 612, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 598, Roden wrote:

In post 527, Flavor Leaf wrote:Man, this human's obsessed with me.

@Roden - wasn't that serious

So much FL talk when I was away, that's what I like to see. Even when I'm not here, the spotlight loves me

Nah you don't get to backpedal after you made several solves that make me a PoE choice without explaining anything.

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

This is probably coming from town who hasn't learned how to look past getting POE scum read as a personal thing.

I'm not invested enough in this game to care that you scum read me.

What does matter is that you kept trying to tie me in to multiple solves, never explained why, then backed off when nobody bit and you got confronted on it.

Nah, you just have a misinterpreted view on an older version of the gamestate

Because you specifically ignore the fact that even in those posts, I actively stated “i don’t expect it to be correct”

@NK15 why did you wanna know about Scorpious and not Roden or koopa when I threw out my hot take solve?

In post 669, koopashell wrote:I do have a suggestion that we should stop focusing on FL, myself, and monkey. I'm going to probably tone down my posting massively. I want other slots discussed because this is choking the gamestate.

I’d like it to be noticed that once this happened, and yet again it was about to diffuse that both Roden and HEM popped in and made a comment to keep the momentum going.


I am not wrong that there is scum energy in that bubble.

Here’s the thing, Koopa, yes, I push slots you see as town as scum, but I’m actively aware that it’s likely not all scum, meaning that in theory, our reads do line up more underneath the surface, if that makes sense.

In post 671, ItalianoVD wrote:

In post 508, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Italiano's telling me right now that not only he finds FL's flip on his slot believable (which I don't see), he's telling me that he believes FL clearing him there is town-indicative.

Is this an accurate representation, Mr. Sir ItalianoVD MD?

Why yes it is my good monkey sir.

Here’s the thing that makes this extra spicy.

Human said the flip isn’t believable yet was actually trying to push me because they thought you were town, and they angled it in a way that was factually incorrect on a base level.

So their “not believable flipping of read” is also built upon that factually incorrect base they presented, but then when they found that out they started the push.

If HEM was coming from a town POV, a Town HEM should WANT me to see Italiano as Town, but now the thing that they were calling me out for is flipped and they’re pushing as the exact opposite.


VOTE: Human

@Malcolm - if this is similar to me tunneling you in the last game, then there’s gotta be scum energy around it, but I do feel the case on Human is far stronger than the case I had on you when I pushed you.

In post 679, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 675, Roden wrote:

In post 612, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 598, Roden wrote:

In post 527, Flavor Leaf wrote:Man, this human's obsessed with me.

@Roden - wasn't that serious

So much FL talk when I was away, that's what I like to see. Even when I'm not here, the spotlight loves me

Nah you don't get to backpedal after you made several solves that make me a PoE choice without explaining anything.

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

This is probably coming from town who hasn't learned how to look past getting POE scum read as a personal thing.

I'm not invested enough in this game to care that you scum read me.

What does matter is that you kept trying to tie me in to multiple solves, never explained why, then backed off when nobody bit and you got confronted on it.

Nah, you just have a misinterpreted view on an older version of the gamestate

In post 680, Flavor Leaf wrote:Because you specifically ignore the fact that even in those posts, I actively stated “i don’t expect it to be correct”

Yeah I don't care if it's old info or if you didn't even think it was a correct read.

I'm asking you why you made that read and what changed it. Why did you push that so hard for so long if you didn't really believe in it. Because as it is, it looks like you just backed off when no one bit and you got confronted on it.

If I'm misinterpreting you then consider this an invitation to correct me. Otherwise you're just choosing to be aggressively dismissive and avoiding having to justify your reads. Like you're just going out of your way to make yourself harder to read and then complaining that no one is reading you correctly. I don't know what you expect tbh.

In post 682, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 669, koopashell wrote:I do have a suggestion that we should stop focusing on FL, myself, and monkey. I'm going to probably tone down my posting massively. I want other slots discussed because this is choking the gamestate.

I’d like it to be noticed that once this happened, and yet again it was about to diffuse that both Roden and HEM popped in and made a comment to keep the momentum going.


I am not wrong that there is scum energy in that bubble.

Here’s the thing, Koopa, yes, I push slots you see as town as scum, but I’m actively aware that it’s likely not all scum, meaning that in theory, our reads do line up more underneath the surface, if that makes sense.

This is also very +scum. You want to be able to push whoever you want without any kind of confrontation in return. You're just framing any one who tries to respond or challenge you as scum trying to displace momentum.

The issue is that if you actually cared about momentum, you would just cut any attempts to manipulate momentum short by answering what have been fairly easy questions. I'm just looking to see what's going on in your head but you're refusing to let anyone peek, instead you're shading anyone who tries to understand you.

Town has no reason to do that, but scum does.

In post 672, ItalianoVD wrote:

In post 504, humaneatingmonkey wrote:maybe you're just scum Italiano

So HEM is annoyed with me not scumreading Leaf with him and instead of seeing the possibility of Leaf just being town he comes to the conclusion that I am scum. I have that right?

lol why am i supposed to townread leaf? he's been making shitty pushes and been trying to lim me ever since i called him out for his "performative case" on you

just because he's so good he won't be caught day 1?

im gonna pass on that and i cant wait to see the ego break when we see Flavor Leaf flip red at end of day

In post 685, Roden wrote:You want to be able to push whoever you want without any kind of confrontation in return.

Does anybody here truly believe that I dont want any confrontation?

In post 685, Roden wrote:I'm just looking to see what's going on in your head but you're refusing to let anyone peek, instead you're shading anyone who tries to understand you.

what do you mean I'm refusing to let anyone peek? I feel my thoughts are essentially out there on almost every slot in the game. If anything, I'm giving more than the majority of the players in this game.

My read on you at the time was just that insignificant. Now you just wanted to make more out of it.

In post 689, Flavor Leaf wrote:I'm giving more than the majority of the players in this game.

this isn't a shade on anyone, I've just been super active today and yesterday is all.

In post 673, ItalianoVD wrote:I have a do set traps as town and if I’m to believe what Leaf said then I see him as town. I have no issue with it. Where are you know re: Leaf? Same? Changed, etc.?

same, with the idea that you guys are S/S trying to clear each other with a "performative" gambit and control the narrative from there

Your point makes no sense, Roden. Do you not know where I stand on essentially every slot in this game?

In post 690, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 689, Flavor Leaf wrote:I'm giving more than the majority of the players in this game.

this isn't a shade on anyone, I've just been super active today and yesterday is all.

hard not to when you have don corleone and the most cunning manipulator plastered all over your id only to end up being the first lim

In post 682, Flavor Leaf wrote:scum energy in that bubble

is this shorthand for people that are scumreading you but wont be pocketed?

you tried all sorts of things big fella but i think you're just caught here

In post 683, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 671, ItalianoVD wrote:

In post 508, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Italiano's telling me right now that not only he finds FL's flip on his slot believable (which I don't see), he's telling me that he believes FL clearing him there is town-indicative.

Is this an accurate representation, Mr. Sir ItalianoVD MD?

Why yes it is my good monkey sir.

Here’s the thing that makes this extra spicy.

Human said the flip isn’t believable yet was actually trying to push me because they thought you were town, and they angled it in a way that was factually incorrect on a base level.

So their “not believable flipping of read” is also built upon that factually incorrect base they presented, but then when they found that out they started the push.

If HEM was coming from a town POV, a Town HEM should WANT me to see Italiano as Town, but now the thing that they were calling me out for is flipped and they’re pushing as the exact opposite.


VOTE: Human

@Malcolm - if this is similar to me tunneling you in the last game, then there’s gotta be scum energy around it, but I do feel the case on Human is far stronger than the case I had on you when I pushed you.

no, just that your case was obviously bullshit regardless

In post 688, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 685, Roden wrote:You want to be able to push whoever you want without any kind of confrontation in return.

Does anybody here truly believe that I dont want any confrontation?

Have you or have you not been dismissive of everyone who has been confrontational with you?

In post 662, Flavor Leaf wrote:Oh, if the replacement is who I think it is, this game’s gonna get real fun.

pocketing the replacement before he even comes

you are truly amazing

Oh trust me, if I’m correct, I’ll never be able to pocket them again.