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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:32 am
by bnuuy
In post 655, MonkeyMan576 wrote: In post 652, bnuuy wrote: In post 628, catboi wrote:
I have to ask, why the FoS on monkeyman? Did you not want to move your vote off Save The Dragons, and if so, why not?
It looked like a slip but I wasn’t sure (the “this” felt out of place)
VOTE: monkeyman
Better place for my vote than StD currently
So you agree with eliminated the claimed beloved princess then?
No I don’t
I just think StD self-contradicting might be a towntell
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:35 am
by MonkeyMan576
In post 675, bnuuy wrote: In post 655, MonkeyMan576 wrote: In post 652, bnuuy wrote: In post 628, catboi wrote:
I have to ask, why the FoS on monkeyman? Did you not want to move your vote off Save The Dragons, and if so, why not?
It looked like a slip but I wasn’t sure (the “this” felt out of place)
VOTE: monkeyman
Better place for my vote than StD currently
So you agree with eliminated the claimed beloved princess then?
I don't buy it. Wanting to eliminate the beloved princess is definately NOT a towntell.
No I don’t
I just think StD self-contradicting might be a towntell
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:35 am
by MonkeyMan576
Sorry for the misformatting.
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:35 am
by MonkeyMan576
Intended post:
I don't buy it. Wanting to eliminate the beloved princess is definately NOT a towntell.
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:37 am
by bnuuy
In post 657, MalcolmTucker wrote: In post 652, bnuuy wrote: In post 628, catboi wrote:
I have to ask, why the FoS on monkeyman? Did you not want to move your vote off Save The Dragons, and if so, why not?
It looked like a slip but I wasn’t sure (the “this” felt out of place)
VOTE: monkeyman
Better place for my vote than StD currently
Out of interest, was your initial STD vote just an early gut feeling vibe type vote? I think they've looked townie so far.
I was actually kinda trying to start shit with that, create an early divide and see where people land
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:39 am
by bnuuy
In post 678, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Intended post:
I don't buy it. Wanting to eliminate the beloved princess is definately NOT a towntell.
That’s not what I’m saying, I feel like the underlying logic is town-indicative in that it doesn’t feel orchestrated
Just because I dislike someone’s push doesn’t make them scum
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:40 am
by MegAzumarill
VOTE: Tracer Bullet
Bbecause I forggot to put. a vote out as I like to start of day 1.
Also because 2 of the same avatar confuses me
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:42 am
by Save The Dragons
In post 678, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Intended post:
I don't buy it. Wanting to eliminate the beloved princess is definately NOT a towntell.
do you believe her claim? okay i don't know that i do
do you believe that cephrir would put it in the game after bloodstained? okay you don't know what that means but i do it means i have doubts he would randomize a beloved princess because it could end up on one of the scum teams
do you think that it's possible if the claim is real that it has anything to do with alignment? no, she could still be scum and we have to get her some way or another if she is.
but saying "omg the person attacking the beloved princess is scum because they obviously want to blow up the beloved princess" is pretty shallow thinking because it's obviously not going to happen
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:42 am
by MonkeyMan576
In post 680, bnuuy wrote: In post 678, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Intended post:
I don't buy it. Wanting to eliminate the beloved princess is definately NOT a towntell.
That’s not what I’m saying, I feel like the underlying logic is town-indicative in that it doesn’t feel orchestrated
Just because I dislike someone’s push doesn’t make them scum
Sometimes a duck is a duck.
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:43 am
by Save The Dragons
fuck it
watch how easy it is to slay a beloved princess
VOTE: mastina
watch how the wagon forms and tell me what you think
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:43 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 681, MegAzumarill wrote:VOTE: Tracer Bullet
Bbecause I forggot to put. a vote out as I like to start of day 1.
Also because 2 of the same avatar confuses me
The reasoning behind this vote is so bad i wonder if i should townread it.
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:44 am
by MonkeyMan576
In post 682, Save The Dragons wrote: In post 678, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Intended post:
I don't buy it. Wanting to eliminate the beloved princess is definately NOT a towntell.
do you believe her claim? okay i don't know that i do
do you believe that cephrir would put it in the game after bloodstained? okay you don't know what that means but i do it means i have doubts he would randomize a beloved princess because it could end up on one of the scum teams
do you think that it's possible if the claim is real that it has anything to do with alignment? no, she could still be scum and we have to get her some way or another if she is.
but saying "omg the person attacking the beloved princess is scum because they obviously want to blow up the beloved princess" is pretty shallow thinking because it's obviously not going to happen
I believe Mastina's claim.
I don't see the point of proposing such an elimination unless you believe it. Maybe it is shallow thinking but if we're not taking him at his word it seems like a bunch of WIFOM.
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:45 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 684, Save The Dragons wrote:fuck it
watch how easy it is to slay a beloved princess
VOTE: mastina
watch how the wagon forms and tell me what you think
VOTE: Mastina omg so easy.
Waiting for the hammer guys.
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:46 am
by bnuuy
In post 682, Save The Dragons wrote: In post 678, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Intended post:
I don't buy it. Wanting to eliminate the beloved princess is definately NOT a towntell.
do you believe her claim? okay i don't know that i do
do you believe that cephrir would put it in the game after bloodstained? okay you don't know what that means but i do it means i have doubts he would randomize a beloved princess because it could end up on one of the scum teams
do you think that it's possible if the claim is real that it has anything to do with alignment? no, she could still be scum and we have to get her some way or another if she is.
but saying "omg the person attacking the beloved princess is scum because they obviously want to blow up the beloved princess" is pretty shallow thinking because it's obviously not going to happen
Do you believe mastina would jeopardize her perfect record of true-claiming for this game?
Also, I don’t think that would be a good move for scum!mastina given there’s a separate scumteam to worry about
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:47 am
by butterchurn
I didn't really understand the wagon on Klick or where it came from, so I took a look through their ISO to see if anything stood out to me.
In post 63, Klick wrote: In post 41, butterchurn wrote:
The one experience I have with you is you having very good reads (and also, he didn't respond to me when I said hi to him), so I'm tempted. If it's a serious vote, can you explain the reason?
Oh sweet! I vaguely remember your username as being pleasant to play with? Gonna have to go back and look at the game we were in at some point, a boost of confidence is always nice
catboi's entrance feels very... limp? Make a few small comments, kinda game related but noncommittal, so you can't say he's not talking about the game but he's not actually moving anything forward. It's what I'd post if I wanted to start the game without eyes on me.
PEdit: yes, sorry, posting on phone, it likes to glitch
In post 85, Klick wrote: In post 77, catboi wrote:In general in the early game I joke around and banter, maybe float a serious read if something strikes my fancy, but otherwise hang back and observe until I find things more readable.
Which is why it came across as strange that you're accusing me of being "noncommittal" and "not advancing the game", because...I'm not sure what you're expecting on page 1?
When I read your posts it feels like you
want
me to think you're advancing things though.
The early read on catboi seems okay to me. It's not bad reasoning, even though I don't really pick up on the same things that they're noticing. It could be scum looking for an early read that they can sound confident about, but I can believe it being a genuine gutread. In addition, as some people have already pointed out, in multiball scum can be genuinely scumhunting. So, in this case, I find the early read to be fairly null. This post, I think, is where it starts to get a little interesting:
In post 135, Klick wrote:The main impression I get from catboi's latest posts is that he's actually rather uncomfortable with the votes on him
The context here is that catboi had picked up a few very pile-on type votes, following the push that Klick had started. I think this post feels, in a way, like it is just adding fuel to the fire to try to keep the wagon going. What's interesting, then, is how they
vote bnuuy shortly after. I would like to know from Klick: Did something change between
135 and
155 for you, to make you no longer interested in continuing to add pressure onto the catboi wagon?
After that, they had a few small comments, including going somewhat against the grain and saying that they found mastina's entrance to be very suspicious. In summary, I see a player who doesn't seem uncomfortable or awkward, and feels very willing to poke at players who are considered to be strong or well-established in a way that I think can be town-indicative. The plausible counterargument is that a strong scum player may want to avoid hunting the "low hanging fruit" that could be the typical wagons on Day 1 in a larger game like this for the sake of optics, and that pushing at other more challenging targets could give the impression of genuine hunting (which would be fairly successful, since I had that exact response). I still come away from the reread leaning town, though. The one thing I would like clarity on is the switch to bnuuy, as I don't fully understand the timing of it or the reasoning behind it.
Next I want to look at the reasons people gave for voting them.
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:48 am
by bnuuy
In post 686, MonkeyMan576 wrote: In post 682, Save The Dragons wrote: In post 678, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Intended post:
I don't buy it. Wanting to eliminate the beloved princess is definately NOT a towntell.
do you believe her claim? okay i don't know that i do
do you believe that cephrir would put it in the game after bloodstained? okay you don't know what that means but i do it means i have doubts he would randomize a beloved princess because it could end up on one of the scum teams
do you think that it's possible if the claim is real that it has anything to do with alignment? no, she could still be scum and we have to get her some way or another if she is.
but saying "omg the person attacking the beloved princess is scum because they obviously want to blow up the beloved princess" is pretty shallow thinking because it's obviously not going to happen
I believe Mastina's claim.
I don't see the point of proposing such an elimination unless you believe it. Maybe it is shallow thinking but if we're not taking him at his word it seems like a bunch of WIFOM.
Taking who at whose word?
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:48 am
by Save The Dragons
i don't think it's likely that scum mastina claims beloved princess if she actually is a beloved princess
i also don't take any weight in true-claiming mastina because what if one day she decides to fuck with that maybe today is the day maybe there never will be a day but maybe it's today
i don't think mastina's scum i'm just grumpy this morning and trying to make a point
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:49 am
by MegAzumarill
People should stop acting like every role is forced to be able to be from any faction. The setup has elements of randomization but nothing says its entirely random. So, the takeaway should be any role can be any faction, but any role can also just not be randomized. Saying you don't believe a claim because it would be able to be randomized where the game would be unbalanced is not a valid arguement because that literally may not be a possibility
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:50 am
by NorwegianboyEE
VOTE: MalcolmTucker
One of my first somewhat convinced votes as they shaded me but then it seemed like they didn't go anywhere with it.
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:50 am
by Save The Dragons
...but it also could be randomized though
just because it may not be doesn't mean it mayn't not be
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:51 am
by Save The Dragons
i don't think this conversation is fruitful
VOTE: MalcolmTucker
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:54 am
by Save The Dragons
my point is that people should be wary
In post 686, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I don't see the point of proposing such an elimination unless you believe it. Maybe it is shallow thinking but if we're not taking him at his word it seems like a bunch of WIFOM.
and mastina is a she if you were referring to her
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:56 am
by MonkeyMan576
I was referring to those wanting to elm her, who are male.
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:56 am
by Save The Dragons
oh
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:56 am
by Save The Dragons
well i don't actually want to elim her