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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:40 am
by Galron
We have 4 1/2 days to solve the entire game, right?
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:42 am
by Alyssa The Lamb
I kinda want to see if we can disprove a ydra/rh9 team and see if we can determine who is town from those two if we can
I think that might be the best way to just win outright
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:43 am
by Alyssa The Lamb
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:43 am
by GuiltyLion
In post 6751, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:I kinda want to see if we can disprove a ydra/rh9 team and see if we can determine who is town from those two if we can
I think that might be the best way to just win outright
I was just thinking Ydra/RH9 is the one team that I'm scared of atm because we've set up a path for them to win if we go Galron/S_S after a Datisi/GL T-T flip
I don't know how to do something about that though
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:43 am
by Galron
In post 6749, GuiltyLion wrote: In post 2091, Titus wrote:With the amount of shit I am getting for agreeing with LLD, scum has to be in there protecting GL. This further reinforces that I'm right. It's one thing to disagree. Shading me because I agree with a slot I know to be town is utter garbage.
Galron's recent posting tanks my read of him. He was suggesting that my and GLs flips solved the game, but replied with the fact he didn't like my catchup.
That has zero to do with my flip or GL's flip solving the game.
He doesn't show how the flips are related. His response about why he didn't like my catchup doesn't elaborate on how my and GL's flips solve the game.
If GL is town, turbo flip Galron.
This recent interaction suggested Galron wanted to pair with LLD to take out a strong and charismatic voice while I have the charisma of a gnat when prosecuting.
good post here still
are you going to post that and not post
2092?
In post 2092, Galron wrote:Let's look at this. As everyone knows, I was townreading LLD and null scum on GL. LLD and GL were going back and forth at each other. LLD reps out, Titus reps in and completes what looked to me to be a questionable catch-up seeing as how I believe she agreed with LLD on at least 90% of what LLD put out. For two players to have such a common mind on a large theme seems super sketchy to me and leads me to question my read on LLD/Titus and on GL. I don't mind being flipped if it helps solve the game, but I still think the game as a whole hinges on LLD/Titus vs. GL, giving that both slots have been very prolific and interacted with about everyone on the roster.
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:44 am
by GuiltyLion
also your summary of RH9's post in the PT kinda gave me some town vibes from him but I do think his vote on me is kinda awkward here. not the fact that he voted me, but the way he justified it. but then the doubting voice in my head says "does scum!RH9, knowing that I am town, not bother to fake a scumread on me at all??"
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:45 am
by GuiltyLion
Galron,
2092 is not a good post. It's extremely easy to imagine town!Titus agreeing with LLD if she is biased knowing LLD's alignment. I'm pretty sure I even said that at some point
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:46 am
by Alyssa The Lamb
I kinda want to see ydra pt posting
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:46 am
by GuiltyLion
like from my end it became pretty apparent at some point that Titus was town and we were TvTing but you seem to willingly completely discount that possibility in your entire gamestate view
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:50 am
by GuiltyLion
In post 2104, GuiltyLion wrote:Titus I do not think it is inherently scummy that you agree with your predecessor but I would say that if you are town I think you are letting LLD's push on me bias your own read on me and that was reflected in how you treated me on entering the game/catching up
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:52 am
by GuiltyLion
the other thing I'm remembering that I really hate about Galron is how he tried to tie me to Andante before any flips
I thought at the time that'd be bad if Andante is scum, and then forgot about it
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:53 am
by GuiltyLion
In post 1598, Galron wrote: In post 1476, Andante wrote:Someone needs to dance with GL, I've only seen lots of effort from GL, sure town and scum can put in effort, but like, can a gentleman step up and take GL at least to Dance 1?
Why shouldn't he be left out
In post 1599, Galron wrote: In post 1481, Andante wrote:
You should dance with GL, I think you 2 would actually get some real solving done, based on how I remember you being in the past and what I've seen thus far of GL. I think yall are perfect!!! I'm shipping you 2
another push to pair GL with someone
In post 1607, Galron wrote: In post 1522, Andante wrote: In post 1518, Titus wrote: In post 1514, Firebringer wrote:i need to reread to figure out why Titus is so invested in GL. Did she just read LLD posts and be like "this was a good case"? cause i didn't think it was....
and yeah more words doesn't equal more effort but GL been pretty responsive/proactive where if u see his scum game its reserved and more calculated. Like i don't see how this is scum
I'll eat my hat if GL is town.
What about the Titus scum GL town world? is hat still getting eaten?
More support of GL
In post 1621, Galron wrote: In post 1570, Andante wrote:you just looked for the longest post so you could call it that... I almost always say way more words than needed, like, it feels like how GL genuinely plays, meaning you're SRing GL off of playstyle, which isn't alignment indicative
More GL support
In post 1630, Galron wrote: In post 1622, GuiltyLion wrote:Galron, if you think Andante/GL is S-S, do you think Andante's play is good or logical play if I'm going to flip scum at some point in the game
Not sure. Confused w/ Andante rn.
please remember this entire sequence of posts when you see my townflip
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:55 am
by GuiltyLion
that was at the time too where there was a lot of discussion around me being the lady left out
so remember at the time I was townreading Andante
it would look really bad for Andante if I got left out and flipped scum given how she was campaigning to keep me in the dance, like extremely obviously bad, and I believe Andante would be more smart about her associative than that if I'm in imminent danger of death
the truth of the matter is I was townreading Andante and she prob wanted to stay on my good side (which worked), but Galron doesn't seem interested in considering that possibility at all. Fire called him on this in
1609
from where I'm sitting, feels like agenda-motivated play to set me up to push knowing Andante will flip red
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:08 am
by Galron
I can't help your paranoia, GL.
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:32 am
by GuiltyLion
so you know I'm town then?
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:34 am
by GuiltyLion
pretty sure that's a straight up scumslip lmao
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:35 am
by Datisi
t h o n k
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:41 am
by RH9
In post 6737, GuiltyLion wrote: In post 6705, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:but says that GL's posts seem like he rewrote them several times before posting to avoid causing any offense
RH9 - which posts gave you that impression
I have absolutely not been rewriting any posts this game and I've made several grammatical/memory errors, so this strikes me as an odd remark
Your
1705 felt like you wrote in a way to avoid upsetting me. After, Pre-dance, that would be when I felt like it was off the cuff, without all the 'I'm trying not to hurt your feelings' vibes. Speaking of which, I forgot what made me feel the other posts were rewrote.
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:42 am
by Galron
In post 6756, GuiltyLion wrote:Galron,
2092 is not a good post. It's extremely easy to imagine town!Titus agreeing with LLD if she is biased knowing LLD's alignment. I'm pretty sure I even said that at some point
The over-arching point was that given that you and LLD had been so prolific, I was of the mind that the game was solvable with one of your flips. And you're exactly correct in thinking that at that point in the game I wasn't considering a t/t scenario, which is on me. In the early arguments you had with LLD, you were coming up scummy, and I think I ended up confbiasing.
Now, that doesn't change your townreading Andante and your support for her. But it doesn't necessarily mean you knew her alignment. If you go through that exchange, you'll see where after I was asked by you and Firebringer about it, all I said was possible partner. I don't think anything more was said about it from anyone, at least not for a long while.
I'm not going to talk myself out of not flipping you today. The groundwork has already been laid, and I think that was the plan that Titus had in mind. What I want to figure out is what happens if you flip t/t or t/s. And it may not be you who is the s in the t/s. But everytime the name Datisi is mentioned, all of a sudden woe is me starts in and I don't want to deal with that.
GL, what are your thoughts on leaving?
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:42 am
by Galron
jfc
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:43 am
by Galron
I hate this goddamn game.
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:45 am
by RH9
In post 6742, GuiltyLion wrote: In post 6731, RH9 wrote:
GL hasn't yet. But it is concerning that both of them seem to be lurking.
In post 6732, RH9 wrote:We have four days left. Maybe voting GL and putting him at E-1 will bring him back. It has worked in the past.
VOTE: GL
this kinda feels like it could be scum hopping on our wagon finally
it shouldn't be "concerning" to not post over a holiday weekend, it's pretty easy to imagine my WIM decreasing as town after shoving through a T-T miselim and setting myself up to get limmed as a result (it's possible I'd go MIA as scum too to avoid giving any more associative info, so I don't think this should be a point in my favor, but it's NAI), but what's worst of all is that RH9's reasoning for voting me is to "bring me back" instead of actually expressing a desire to flip me.
like, ok, I'm here. Does that make you not want to flip me anymore?
I don't want to anymore but putting people on E-1 always brings them back. And I'm right again. You came back so I'm unvoting.
UNVOTE: GL
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:46 am
by GuiltyLion
In post 6767, RH9 wrote:Your 1705 felt like you wrote in a way to avoid upsetting me. After, Pre-dance, that would be when I felt like it was off the cuff, without all the 'I'm trying not to hurt your feelings' vibes. Speaking of which, I forgot what made me feel the other posts were rewrote.
ah actually that makes a lot of sense with
1705, I was being careful with that one cause I didn't want you to feel too rejected
thanks, that actually makes me feel a lot better about you
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:49 am
by GuiltyLion
I'll leave if gridlock is occurring and we get dangerously close to deadline but otherwise I want y'all to either vote me out with intention or decide that you don't actually think I'm scum, I'm not going to freely misyeet myself if scum don't have the courage to push for it
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:50 am
by Alyssa The Lamb
I'm really not sure if I can be confident on GL scum anymore