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In post 6761, Shoshin wrote:NSG's probably town, so it's likely Nico?

Well NSG has to be scum if Nico is town unless you think Meme is scum and just why? Like you are saying that RC makes a role that powers scum and I just don't think that's a thing. I could see Nico hyper bussing Mastin and mainly ignoring the rest of the game.

Am I the only one that's minorly suspicious that JJH's death proof is similar to Profi's role? Do you think that RC gives us two of those? Or is that too simplistic? Just like Chick and Jingle are both claimed vendors.

In post 6478, Vecna wrote:You constantly kept at a rather safe distance from the whole Mastina thing. You wanted her lynched, without -really- sticking your neck out for it, and the follow-up lines up quite nicely with how id imagine a scumteam to formulate a plan here.

Was our treatment all that different? I mean true, I'd look at her play and go "man she's scummy" and then I guess I'd kinda psych myself out into thinking she was a town role and let's be honest I was a little sympathetic if she was actually sick. You pretty much hard town read her b/c you believed you blocked scums kill to wanting her lynched and then were all like "oh I'm just annoyed with her, she's town though"

prodge.

figure it out already

In post 6771, THE MEME MEN wrote:

Votecount 5.04

jingle (1) : nero
nico (6) : jjh, nsg, creat, fb, jingle, lady

Not Voting: Aristophanes, Nicorobin, Whemestar, profi, Gamma Emerald, Porkens, Shiro, Sora, Vecna, Shoshin

With 17 alive it's 9 to lynch.

The day will end on Dec 11/12

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vecna - 3-shot jk, shos - bg, profi/alde/kuroi - able to resurrect & conf town, firebringer - neighbor & conf town, nicorobin - tracker triplevoter, us - parity cop doublevoter, nero/jingle/LA/nsg/aris/wheme/GE/pork - refused to claim

Nvm I miscounted, still only 6 votes. Point still stands though about nico getting us a reads list.

-LH

I claimed Dreaming God, which is why I wanted you to cop me and Creature tonight. If you get a same alignment result, that should also soft confirm redirector.

And Jingle, wouldn't RC at least have told us that Adalbert got killed last night? From what I understand, he resurrects himself when he dies with no flip, which implies that he at least dies. But I've never played with a self-resurrector role, so I could very easily be wrong.

In post 6778, Porkens wrote:prodge.

figure it out already

@Pork vote nico...its quite clear from my vcs.


-LH

@jingle & LA - thanks

-LH

In post 6775, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 6761, Shoshin wrote:NSG's probably town, so it's likely Nico?

Well NSG has to be scum if Nico is town unless you think Meme is scum and just why? Like you are saying that RC makes a role that powers scum and I just don't think that's a thing. I could see Nico hyper bussing Mastin and mainly ignoring the rest of the game.

I don't care what roles anyone claims to have. I care about behaviors. And as I said, I'd lynch Meme before I lynch NSG.

Why are you trying to outguess what RC would do in his games? He likes to do wacky things, in case you haven't realized yet.

wait a minute. What even is a dreaming god??

-LH

I’m gonna just like read real time until about 24 hours from now when I’ll be able to do diligence on those summaries (thanks!)

I don’t have time to read 271 pages (sorry!) but I intend to go look at the bits that have been presented

So if any of yall dispute please speak up and I’ll go form my initial opinions

Thanks!

it has various actions it can perform the nature of which are unknown to the player him or herself and only known by the moderator

these actions are usually given some name or flavor associated with them to distinguish them and perhaps to hint at what the action actually does

In post 6784, profii wrote:I’m gonna just like read real time until about 24 hours from now when I’ll be able to do diligence on those summaries (thanks!)

I don’t have time to read 271 pages (sorry!) but I intend to go look at the bits that have been presented

So if any of yall dispute please speak up and I’ll go form my initial opinions

Thanks!

dude

A for effort
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@nsg thanks. That is one weird, weird role.


-LH

A lot of the below is for prof in his catchup:



jingle (1) : nero
nico (6) : jjh, nsg, creat, fb, jingle, lady

Not Voting: Aristophanes, Nicorobin, Whemestar, profi, Gamma Emerald, Porkens, Shiro, Sora, Vecna, Shoshin

With 17 alive it's 9 to lynch.



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vecna - 3-shot jk, shos - bg, profi/alde/kuroi - able to resurrect & conf town, firebringer - neighbor & conf town, nicorobin - tracker triplevoter, us - parity cop doublevoter, jingle - pizza delivery man, LA - dreaming god, jjh - 1-shot bp?, creature - flavor cop?

nero/nsg/aris/wheme/GE/pork - no claim

varsoon - scum blackout (ends day and it turns to night phase immediately)
mastina - scum hated gladiator (-1 vote to be lynched & jjh has defended her most of the game + jjh voted no lynch on d4)


-LH

In post 6783, THE MEME MEN wrote:wait a minute. What even is a dreaming god??

-LH

Essentially, I'm given a list of dreams (With names like "Dream of Happiness" or something) and on night 1 I can pick one. I'm not told what the dreams do, either. Depending on the dream, I can influence the game state passively without realizing it, although I haven't noticed anything whatsoever that could be attributed to the dream I had N1.

And NSG said it way better than I could've.

I had a "Dream of Providence" Night 1, if anyone else wants to speculate.

In post 6790, Lady Angel wrote:And NSG said it way better than I could've.

I had a "Dream of Providence" Night 1, if anyone else wants to speculate.

I have nothing to say about this lol. No idea.

What you just posted though...and the prs so far - 10/10 for creativity from RC.

-LH

Also I'm not sure that's such a good idea to be outing that I should check LA & Creature specifically , since scum could just target 1 of them...so there's that.

-LH

Dreaming God is both a PITA to balance and usually incredibly powerful/swingy.

They also tend to be global modifiers and things like that.

Stuff like: Everyone is loved for a dayphase. Everyone is hated for a dayphase. Nexus. Mass Redirection. Prevent all actions. Prevent all Nightkills. On occasion their dreams can be linked to specific other slots through flavor, although I think the only time I've seen that was in Alisae's Team Mafia setup. That's also the last time I saw a dreaming god setup, though I've probably read/been involved with 5? of them since joining ms.

Basically, super unlikely to be a fakeclaim, but not necessarily indicative past that. I'm kinda okay with backburnering LA based on unlikelihood of fakeclaim, though, because if she's town there's a potential for really useful Dreams.

Targeting me and LA is likely a waste anyway

There's no reason for me to fakeclaim a guilty based on a flavorclaim nor Lady Angel lie about her flavorclaim.

I could also maybe out my other result (but that would hint someone's role)

I wouldn't, Creature.

I would just save it for tomorrow where massclaim is probably optimal anyway.

Save it for afterwards to prevent scum for fakeclaiming effectively.

The problem is if my results keep getting 'tampered' like the one on Lady Angel.

In post 6754, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 6751, Vecna wrote:Or maybe......hidden town jailkeeper that does not want to give scum incentive to kill him?

Did you say that and d2 or d3? You gotta understand though, in a game where scum are outted during a gladiate saying "oh nope, don't gladiate me" is going to be mildly suspicious. Your d1 PR/3x Jailkeeper doesn't make you confirmed town or anything.

In post 6751, Vecna wrote:while his role will have to die regardless for scum to have any shot at this game, youre really just trying to make the datapoints fit your narrative.

you are claiming that you are out of shots. You are basically a glorified VT. Why would scum ever shoot you?

I dno.......because wifom? Look at Jingle's outlook on me if you do believe he is scum.

Regardless it doesnt matter. Ill be dead long before u have a shot at realistically lynching me. Look elsewhere. Honestly. Look elsewhere. Me being alive is clouding your judgement if youre town.