In post 6834, Titan wrote:Falcon though as I'm taking a tiny break. What is up with your jumping all over the place with regards to me? In the beginning you *hoped* I was town, then you said after reading my ISO I was definitely town, then day three I was part of scum team that was going to mislynch you and in the midst of that you paralleled my scum game to nacho's (LOL?) was that really what you meant because FMPOV I have one of the worst scum games onsite, to you saying you'd be able to catch me as scum if you were town within 25 posts, to getting paranoid of me trolling at the lynch yesterday, to then saying that my paranoia today is town.
I mean, I get waffling, cuz I mean hello Princess Waffles here, but there's a level of mental whiplash there that is part not quite making sense/I can't figure out.
(I just want mafia to be more fun, I think people have been making it too serious/toxic/hostile environment lately across the board. I play my part, and I just want to have fun and not have it affect *me* as much as it does.)
Here's my thought process tracked down with reasons attached.
1) Beginning
: I skimmed the game somewhat - my fault. It was obvious from reading your posts up until the time I entered that you were town. For whatever reason in the midst of my skimming, I missed some of the reasons why you were obviously town. There was also one specific thing I was looking for: I thought you'd claim that you could read me when FT's post was being discussed. Sort of like how ffery said she was going to wait for me to post. You later clarified that you were waiting for me to initiate interaction with you so it is a moot point. But I was actually hoping at that point that
you
would invite me to the ball.
2) First read-through of ISO
: And then you do something you never did before. You threw an IGMEOU emoticon my way! If I were scum, I'd be quaking in my boots, no better way to make me sweat. Even as town, the effect was fascinating. And so I ask you why. Why, oh why did you look at me that way? And then you say I ought to read you easily, why hadn't I taken you up in my arms and swept you away? And then I look into your ISO and see what I wanted to talk to you about - I pick up those little things that you are so unlikely to do as scum. I see your tone, I see the way you talk, the way you walk, the way you move. Not a chance you are scum, what the hell was I thinking? And so I backtrack. But the great knight Sir Arthur charges after me! Look at that backtrack, it is scum, scum, scummy! And then I realize the way you pushed on me would be incredibly unlikely from a scum-Tammy and I back the heck off and see you for the obvtown that you are. And this townread continued for upto night 2.
3) Deep in the forest, Desperado and I sit together
(Heavily paraphrased conversation):
Desperado: Did you see that Mastin post to Ffery? He's town! New theory: Mastin is town, Titan/Stalin are scum. They are setting us up for a Mastin townflip.
F-16: Come off it. No way Tammy is scum. Sure, Stalin maybe but not Tammy.
Desperado: Tammy's whole thing about a cabal forming to lynch Ffery is ridiculous.
F-16 (after some conversation): Hmm, well she
is
good as scum, I wouldn't discount her fooling me I guess. Will go ask her because we are best mates in this game and it'll go awesome and she'll reassure me that nothing is off and I'll come back and tell you what a wacko you are!
4) In the game thread D2
:
F-16: Tammy, explain this, why would your read on me be affected by Mastin's flip? Desp brought up a few points in the neigborhood.
Tammy!: Where's that coward Desp! Bring him out here and I'll duel him to the death! Your neighborhood blows! I'm coming around with cannonballs and an army of a thousand to lay your itty-bitty neighborhood to seige!
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Neighborhood: We're under attack! Run! Women and children inside. Men, get your armor ready. Ready the battlements. Prepare for battle! IT'S TAMMYYYY!
F-16: That went well...
<a period of calm, peace amongst the bitter battle while
Mastin gets lynched and flips town
>
5) Back to the Forest
: F-16 lies alone in a crazy mood. Wouldn't it be hilarious if Nacho and Tammy are scum together and are pulling this stuff on me. Well, not Tammy but Nacho is definitely a possibility.
F-16: Hey Nacho, why didn't you answer my questions I asked you about your read on Orc and why you pushed him D1 only to never push again?
F-16: Nacho, Nacho, Nacho, why are you avoiding me?
F-16: You've gotta be scum, that's why? Who's scum with you Nacho? Is it AP? Is it Penguin? Heck is it Tammy? That can't be true.
F-16: Are you planning to blow your cover on me tomorrow to get me mislynched? Try it I dare you!
F-16: Come on, Nacho, try it, try it, try it. You know there is not fucking chance I am scum here. Scumclaim to me by pushing me at daystart! Even tell Tammy to attack me if she's scum with you! Is this the day you are both going to blow your cover and mislynch me? I know you'll probably kill Yggdra to take away one of my best allies.
6) Daystart
: PieInFreezer is dead!
F-16: (A little panicky that my worst fears came true but not genuinely believing it beyond some crazy, irrational part of my head, all this while morally sunk with Mastin's and Rancid's blood on his hands): Tammy, explain your hammer.
Tammy: Vote CF
(and you know the rest)
After that, I head off to class, bike back home, breathe some air and realize that I was being silly sitting in a dark lab in real life, sitting in a metaphorical room with paranoid Desp in the game, and venting about things that had nothing with you and little to do with the game.
As for your scum game, I think you are competent as scum, it is just that when you are town, your alignment is exceedingly obvious that someone who has played enough games with you would probably notice the lack of blatant towniness. I've played with you enough to know what your towngame looks like although whether or not I'll be able to catch you as scum is a mystery that remains to be seen.
7) End of D3: Cupcakes have been eaten
:
I wasn't seriously considering you being scum when you made that post about me being scum hammering and I didn't think you were either (unless you really were in which case you know where to turn in your can-read-F-16 card. From the point, I read your responses to me early D3, I had you as strong enough town that no one was going to convince me otherwise.
8) Today
, JSU came out attacking you and I told them to drop it since it was so obviously a distraction.
As far as my play, I was wrong about Mastin and Rancid and completely off-base but I felt like I've been really obviously town as well. I just disagree with a lot of your characterizations of my play. You say that I'm part of the undercurrents to lynch Ffery and have been asking "gotcha" questions to her. I don't see how and I was genuinely trying to understand her thought process all through the game. You said that I wasn't trying to figure out what happened with the game when Cupcake claimed that role. I was. Probably more than anyone else. I wondered about the number of investigative roles in the game. I considered why in the world scum-Kats would want to claim a guilty while Nacho quickly shut down that discussion. I was considering everything and mulling things over and you saying that you were the only one who did this and not me just isn't true. If you truly read my posts D3, you'd realize I brought this up plenty of times. I asked why would Cupcake-scum have any reason to fake-claim but was shut down by AP and Nacho. Then you came into D4 implying that I never did anything about it and that's just not true. At some point though, I'd had enough of the noise and thought that Cupcake's flip would help us all reset. I offered to hammer but waffled hard on it and DV did it instead. I still stand by the fact that the day ending when it did was good considering a Cupcake lynch was pretty much set in stone and we weren't going to change that.
Next day begins and you discounted how much I worried about Cupcake or how I was considering the possibility of too many investigative roles. I was more worried than you were! And why would I as scum do such a ridiculous thing as asking someone else to hammer while I stay off for moral reasons? It would be a lot less convoluted if I had just hammered. It was me as town not wanting to contribute to a crap lynch and my desire to have the day end quickly if the lynch was a foregone conclusion. I didn't want to hammer someone I thought was town. I was frustrated at the way the day was going. I was frustrated that no one was considering alternative possibilities (except you), and I was frustrated that Nacho was acting like everything was obvious that Cupcake was so obviously scum that he didn't need to list any of his other suspects as well.
To say that I wasn't considering everything and am confbiasing is a bit unfair. I very obviously was. I am not even sure if you are reading any of my latest posts. I'm genuinely concerned about DV's posts. They feel scummy. I didn't play this game optimally but I put in more time and effort into it than any other recent game and I can't even convince you that I am obviously town let alone random players that don't know me and it is probably my fault and the frustration was building up for a while. I just don't
care
this much as scum. Wicked was probably one of my better scumgames and how many times did you prod us? And that was a hydra with Nacho in it. I wondered if we were going to get replaced after three prods. I see you as being obviously town here but so am I and I think my contribution to the game and genuineness in my posting is just as obvious. I spent so much time and effort trying to sort Nacho and digging at every possible thing to see if I could get a definitive read. I spent a considerable amount of time pushing AP. During this time, you were trying to see if I fit in on a scumteam with Nacho and AP which just didn't make any sense because I am not scum in the first place.
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