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In post 6846, Gloria Cleary wrote:

In post 6840, MURDERCAT wrote:You realize you don't get to shoot right

Titus is her #1 scroll choice according to her but at no time, did she push Mush to give it her.

She knows, as Mush already said, it’s an act.

I chose not to interact with MUSH's arrogant LARP - or read it.

In post 6844, Tayl0r Swift wrote:hot take: dgb is town. titus wants us to shoot dgb and we're now doing it.

No, I believe she wanted you to be the scroll target. If DGB was town, she’s be pushing Mush to scroll her #1 sr, which is Titus, rather than ask to shoot her tomorrow.

In post 6849, MURDERCAT wrote:Why do you think town is losing?

Your POE is a dumpster fire of lunacy and you're paying attention to Gloria's parcheesi level analysis.

In post 6848, DrippingGoofball wrote:

In post 6841, Gloria Cleary wrote:

In post 6833, Flea The Magician wrote:As much as I agree with Taylor, this is entertaining af. DGB is even ignoring things people are quoting from MUSH's posts

Titus: DGB is lockscum, Lim Tayl0r.
DGB: Titus is confiscum. Kill someone other than her or me, preferably Flea, who is pinging me.

It’s like a comedy of Kamikaze scum here.

I never said to kill Flea.

Mark my words, the town will lose because of your laughable reads.

Which ones do you disagree with? Titus? Then why aren’t you pushing Mush to scroll her?

In post 6851, Gloria Cleary wrote:

In post 6844, Tayl0r Swift wrote:hot take: dgb is town. titus wants us to shoot dgb and we're now doing it.

No, I believe she wanted you to be the scroll target. If DGB was town, she’s be pushing Mush to scroll her #1 sr, which is Titus, rather than ask to shoot her tomorrow.

I have a town read on Tayl0r - are you high?

In post 6853, Gloria Cleary wrote:Which ones do you disagree with? Titus? Then why aren’t you pushing Mush to scroll her?

I DO NOT INTERACT WITH THE LARP

In post 6852, DrippingGoofball wrote:Your POE is a dumpster fire of lunacy and you're paying attention to Gloria's parcheesi level analysis.

So what do you think is wrong? You disagree with the {MC, Bell, Noraa, MUSH} townblock?

I just woke up, Tayl0r. Give me a break, I'm collecting my final thoughts here.

Ahem.


I'm hitting DGB here first because while Titus has a higher chance of actively derailing, DGB stands a higher chance of passive escape by ATEing their way out of trouble. I think this particular town is MORE susceptible to the second one, as long as Gloria makes sure to treat anything and everything from POE slots as pure WIFOM from now until flipped.

I've also done the detailed assessment and DGB is scummier than Titus -- Titus has RL excuses, DGB replaced goddamn Lapsa. Titus is STILL super scummy, don't get me wrong there, just... DGB is more so.

The most likely risk I see in my POE is mistaking a scum slot for locktown. If we hit two scum after this (which DGB->Titus feels VERY likely to hit two red) then we can steamroll by POE effortlessly, almost zero chance of failure even with that risk.

The most serious risk I see for town is trying to adjust the POE mid-run pre-flip. Hitting your preferred slot is a bad idea unless it follows the POE. This is because scum can cast doubt in the townbloc, fake town-confirm scum, and perform all manner of WIFOM operations if there is any dissidence within the town. If town acts as a unitized robot with absolutely zero problem solving power up until it runs out of POE targets and has to eat /itself/, scum have no power. Think like this: if scum knows that EVERY SINGLE TOWN MEMBER is effectively interchangeable until they run out of targets, then ANY WIFOM they drop loses its power.

Let's say Noraa doesn't agree to this -- they could give it to her anyway in the hopes that given power she hits her target instead. Even if /both/ of them are green, this helps, because it gives town scum-provided information on who they choose to hit and then town hits another green next phase and starts to doubt. If one or the other is red, it's always a gambit, but scum /still/ gets to gambit based on what they think Noraa does -- and Noraa has to decide if she's going to follow her heart or follow the POE. There's a chance scum can overtake the game there.

Let's say Noraa and everyone else agrees to follow the POE. Scum can no longer influence the outcome. No matter what, the SAME slots will fall, in the same order. This could be good or bad for scum, we have no way of knowing, but if they only have one scum left after Day 4, town WILL win this anyway. Moreover, if town decides to pivot, it is PURELY A TOWN DECISION. Scum don't get to influence the pivot except by choosing who makes it, and I trust this town to pivot only based on too many green flips if they agree to follow the POE. That is always going to be a town-favored decision. I especially trust the townies who are adamantly agreeing on this POE to pivot based on appropriate flips and hit red if and when they pivot.

If you're town and you're earlier in the POE, you should hit the target next in the POE with a vote. Do not hurt-tag it, do not discuss, do not let doubt linger. This signals to town that they did indeed hit green and lets them make a meaningful pivot on that basis without waiting for flips. This is optimal play in this scenario, and it denies scum power to an enormous degree. I'm making sure town moves from here with absolute certainty and denies scum even the tiniest foothold in the gamestate, please listen to me.

You don't need to follow my exact POE, but town DOES need to agree on a POE, period, and I feel like if it deviates too far from mine it will impact town's chances. Noraa's is acceptable, if everyone else agrees, but I really must stress that it must be universal agreement here. Remember this is a game that will be extremely town-favored starting when Titus goes down, and slight disagreements in the POE really do not matter, the time for your favorite target will come if you are right. It's more important to deny scum any influence at this stage.

I'll be voting DGB in the next hour.

OK.

Cleary can't possibly be town. The misreps are repeated, and grotesque. I recant my town read on this slot.

At first I thought town because of high effort and dumb takes.

But maybe I was mistaken, and it's high effort scum takes.

In post 6852, DrippingGoofball wrote:

In post 6849, MURDERCAT wrote:Why do you think town is losing?

Your POE is a dumpster fire of lunacy and you're paying attention to Gloria's parcheesi level analysis.

In post 6857, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:I'll be voting DGB in the next hour.

Just do it now.

ehhh ok I mean I think it flips scum and I guess it makes the vote target clear

There is way more evidence for Titus though

In post 6856, MURDERCAT wrote:

In post 6852, DrippingGoofball wrote:Your POE is a dumpster fire of lunacy and you're paying attention to Gloria's parcheesi level analysis.

So what do you think is wrong? You disagree with the {MC, Bell, Noraa, MUSH} townblock?

Bell is townbloc. MUSH is a ninny. Noraa is scum. Who is MC?

In post 6854, DrippingGoofball wrote:

In post 6851, Gloria Cleary wrote:

In post 6844, Tayl0r Swift wrote:hot take: dgb is town. titus wants us to shoot dgb and we're now doing it.

No, I believe she wanted you to be the scroll target. If DGB was town, she’s be pushing Mush to scroll her #1 sr, which is Titus, rather than ask to shoot her tomorrow.

I have a town read on Tayl0r - are you high?

No, I was referring to Titus.

Noraa isn’t scum.

In post 6861, MURDERCAT wrote:ehhh ok I mean I think it flips scum and I guess it makes the vote target clear

There is way more evidence for Titus though

That's one of the reasons I'm going with DGB here, actually. DGB has a better chance of survival if left to live to Day 4.

In post 6862, DrippingGoofball wrote:MC

Me

In post 6861, MURDERCAT wrote:There is way more evidence for Titus though

Ah c'mon

There's more evidence for me LOL

Joking aside, you need me out of the way to start to walk back that disaster POE.

In post 6841, Gloria Cleary wrote:

In post 6833, Flea The Magician wrote:As much as I agree with Taylor, this is entertaining af. DGB is even ignoring things people are quoting from MUSH's posts

Titus: DGB is lockscum, Lim Tayl0r.
DGB: Titus is confiscum. Kill someone other than her or me, preferably Flea, who is pinging me.

It’s like a comedy of Kamikaze scum here.

Yeah this is a stretch... DGBs last read of me was null. You comparing DGB to Zdenk stinks a bit too, I point you to my own reads list people seem to love to hate, where I open stated I'd not been paying attention to slots.

People should be questioning their town reads of you after these.

Noraa isn’t scum.

~_~

Actually, looking through the iso I would much rather give it to Titus and I hope you will hear me out MUSH. If Goofball is town then we are giving Titus a shot for free.

You guys won't rest until I'm dead and you don't care for my player slot.

Noraa
Is
Not
Scum

I do not want to hear another post about Noraa being scum. I will die.

In post 6851, Gloria Cleary wrote:

In post 6844, Tayl0r Swift wrote:hot take: dgb is town. titus wants us to shoot dgb and we're now doing it.

No, I believe she wanted you to be the scroll target. If DGB was town, she’s be pushing Mush to scroll her #1 sr, which is Titus, rather than ask to shoot her tomorrow.

if scum wants me scrolled 3rd it implies pooky is scum.

Noraa's POE can be it. Gloria is unquestionable at this stage until town needs to eat itself. (Hint: if you get to that stage, Gloria dies first.)