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Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 8:18 pm
by Titan
Acctuasly here's the big glaring how can you call him town so much it hurts dagger in your eyes why aren't you blind from the blood doesn't make sense
They've been fuvking wrong about everything, and I see no resetting whatsoever. None. Nada. Zip.
They're not town.
Smug. I'm gonna be smug.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 8:18 pm
by Titan
Oh wait wait wait.
WHERES THE FUVKING VCA.
Eh?
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 8:18 pm
by CarbonFiber
AP is making logically sound statements while ignoring the context. Something that makes sense for good scum to do. He's right that it is theoretically possible for scum-BRO to have a meltdown but is ignoring that the overall circumstances point to it being much more likely town.
Secondly, BRO and Desp's reads list makes a lot of sense. They are genuinely working to solve the game, putting effort to see where I am coming from (especially with regards to my strong townread on Titan), and most of their analysis heavily resonates. It feels real and not opportunistically manipulative.
Thirdly, what they are saying makes sense. How they are approaching the game makes sense. It is true that PV is very likely town, that Stalin is town, and that Titan is town. It is true that me counterclaiming a slot with zMuffin in it is absurd. AP is continuing to ignore it creating all sorts of hypotheticals about how I could do it as scum when it just makes no fucking sense.
Fourth, Desp's turn-around and paranoia that they were being setup for a Mastin townflip makes so much sense and his attacks on Ffery and her reads list resonate vastly. Those were just the sort of things that bugged me about Ffery initially and Desp was vocalizing a lot of what I was worried about.
No one's play in this game has been more obviously town with the exception of Pieguyn's D1 and D2 play. So, sure, BRO's meltdown COULD come from scum, I just don't believe it to be the case.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 8:20 pm
by CarbonFiber
Tammy, do you realize why I am so frustrated with this game?
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 8:20 pm
by Titan
Can someone point me to one game whee bro backed off a scum read because someone else said too? Please?
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 8:22 pm
by Titan
Because I'm not blindly believing desbro is town when they refuse to act like it?
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 8:22 pm
by CarbonFiber
In post 6905, Titan wrote:
Because I'm not blindly believing desbro is town when they refuse to act like it?
Well, no.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 8:23 pm
by Titan
I mean I already know what they're planning to do, so whatever games lost anyway.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 8:25 pm
by The Fox and the Hound
In post 6885, Red Gyarados wrote:Like this is my biggest issue
I feel really awkward challenging it
Which is what makes me nervous it's a ploy
I feel this. Like, I've been townreading them the whole game, but today/yesterday when I found myself starting to wonder if maybe that was a fakeable thing, my automatic reaction was, "stop that Ceph, you're a bad person". I'm not saying I think that necessarily, but I should be able to consider the possibility.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 8:32 pm
by Titan
I would really really love reasons besides anxiety attack that brodes is town. I don't mean to sound heartless because I believe that was real, and I hate to see people get that stressed, but it doesn't make it town or game related.
So, reasons other than that. Go!
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 8:33 pm
by Titan
Also hood don't count. I don't buy hood shit if it's not in thread.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 8:38 pm
by Titan
Also also I get emotional cuz hi! But it's also proportionate to what I would expect from a player and that's throwing me off.
And it's also concerning an expectation of bros play and if you don't like that suck it you shouldn't spend your time bragging about how awesome you are at this game if you don't want bop type what in the fuck are you doing reactions thrown at you. You either recognize any other time you've been right is pure tucking luck or you see why I think you're attack on Titan full of shit scum this game.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 8:40 pm
by CarbonFiber
Tammy, BRO and Desp let me influence their read on you because I could see eye to eye with them for the most part. BRO even mentioned at the time of his end of D1 wallpost that Pieguy and I were his only allies. I'm also pretty sure that they don't have a massively strong scumread on your slot and possibly trust me to read you.
So, you are annoyed that BRO and Desp say that I can't play like this as scum while continuing to suspect you. Do you disagree with them about me? I don't think I've been more obvtown in any game as I have been here and am still astounded that you haven't come around to realizing that I am town here especially after I walled about my read on you hoping it would be more transparent. Yeah, I don't agree with their suspicion of you and I've made it blatantly obvious. I think they are way off base but at the same time, I see where they are coming from and recognize them as town as I see where your suspicion comes from and I am confident it is coming from a town place.
You spent so much time looking at my play through a microscope while not engaging me on my reads or thoughts beyond what it would take to sort me. I don't know, I guess it could be me - if the biggest reason I gave you to townread me was that I wouldn't trash your towngame, then my play must have been pretty crap but I do want to turn things around and I thought it was so obvious that I wouldn't spend this much time trying to sort Nacho, Fox, NotScience etc just looking at my most recent play even ignoring the whole miller stuff.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 8:41 pm
by Titan
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GODS!!!
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 8:47 pm
by Titan
Falcon - if you are indeed town here, be comforted by this one thing. Upon seeing a reads list I posted on day four at westeros and laughing at how much it basically said here's the people I don't trust in this order, a player pretty much familiar with me said " if Tammy's alive past day three, she doesn't trust anyone."
There are very very few people I feel really equipped to read past this point, especially when all we've done is mislynch. You can get after me about it, but it's not going to change the shadows I jump at.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 8:51 pm
by Titan
And that is the main reason I keep thinking you town and that's horrible of me because it also feels like manipulation, but desbro are not bring town and it's so frustrating that no one else sees what they're planning to do tomorrow,
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 8:53 pm
by CarbonFiber
I get that. But you are expecting me or read you correctly (I am), you are expecting BRO to read you correctly (he's not) and using his incorrect read on you as at least a part of the reason for why he is scum. Looking at it from my POV, I'm just as surprised at your read on me as you are that BRO is reading you wrong because I have been BOPing you as you him (although I am not doubting that you are town). But his suspicion of you could come from town. It is really the only read I feel good about besides my read on you. I have weird paranoia of PV but I don't think he is scum either. I have a small amount of paranoia about Stalin but don't think they are scum either.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 8:57 pm
by Titan
Oh and do you want to know why their "I'm being setup for a mastin town flip" makes no literal sense?
THEY DIDNT BACK DOWN.
you think it would cause them some concern if they actually believed that. You'd think they'd unvote and try to get to the bottom of it? Did they once ever? NO. You know what they did do? Said they weren't going to do anything until mastin was lynched. That is not town fucking behavior. They were covering all their fucking bases because they knew mastin would flip town and they were too busy throwing shade at others for what they were pushing.
And it's something that none ever fucking foes. No one goes oh you pushed town, you're scum. People look at cases and reasoning sure but the bs they pulled, nuhuh no fucking way.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 9:04 pm
by Titan
In post 6916, CarbonFiber wrote:I get that. But you are expecting me or read you correctly (I am), you are expecting BRO to read you correctly (he's not) and using his incorrect read on you as at least a part of the reason for why he is scum. Looking at it from my POV, I'm just as surprised at your read on me as you are that BRO is reading you wrong because I have been BOPing you as you him (although I am not doubting that you are town). But his suspicion of you could come from town. It is really the only read I feel good about besides my read on you. I have weird paranoia of PV but I don't think he is scum either. I have a small amount of paranoia about Stalin but don't think they are scum either.
How many times have you sat in a dead thread bragging about your near god status at this game? How many times do you sit in a dead thread shitting on everyone else because they didn't have as good of reads as you did and should sheep your reads. How many times have you, when people have called out that you aren't as wonderful as you think you are, pulled up all your stats to say you're wonderful?
How many times in this game did you use that as reason for people to sheep you?
Now tel me about broseidon. Either he bows at the altar of I suck at mafia this game, he recognizes his pushes have been bad, especially him going back on a strong town read in katsuki, or no I'm going to accept he's scum and his lack of making sense means he's attack on Titan bro scum who came after me for bullshit reasons. And I just got out of he reckoning and watched des makeup bullshit to a high degree.
They're not town.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 9:31 pm
by The Fox and the Hound
In post 6915, Titan wrote:And that is the main reason I keep thinking you town and that's horrible of me because it also feels like manipulation, but desbro are not bring town and it's so frustrating that no one else sees what they're planning to do tomorrow,
Have you already said what this means?
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 9:31 pm
by CarbonFiber
Who is scum with them?
Also, what happened to your Stalin townread?
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 9:34 pm
by Titan
In post 6919, The Fox and the Hound wrote: In post 6915, Titan wrote:And that is the main reason I keep thinking you town and that's horrible of me because it also feels like manipulation, but desbro are not bring town and it's so frustrating that no one else sees what they're planning to do tomorrow,
Have you already said what this means?
They're going to fake a guilty tomorrow in lylo. It's fucking obvious.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 9:34 pm
by Titan
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 9:35 pm
by Titan
Everyone is scum!
I'm the only town!
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 9:38 pm
by Titan
I mean come on does anyone really believe even night tracker who doubles as a cop who just so happened to track ap to Stalin when katsuki claimed to block him?
I mean seriously, when there's already other investigative tropes out there?
Come on.