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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:17 am
by Venus Mars and Pluto
In post 6891, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 6888, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:
In post 6579, Xtoxm wrote:yep
skitter town
shockingly
my work here is done
In post 2521, Krazy wrote:During the night, chkflip was killed! He was...

Spoiler:
Miller Even-Night Non-Adjacent Vigilante, Novice Complex Odd-Night VigilanteWelcome to Flavor Leaf vs. Hectic!

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You are a
Miller Even-Night Non-Adjacent Vigilante, Novice Complex Odd-Night Vigilante
.

Miller: Alignment cops will show you as aligned with the mafia. Loyal and Disloyal modifiers will act as though you are aligned with the mafia.

Even-Night Non-Adjacent Vigilante: On even-numbered nights, you may target a player that is not adjacent to you in the player list with a killing action.

Novice: You do not act on night 1.

Odd-Night Complex Vigilante: On odd nights, you may target a player with a killing action. This action will fail on vanilla roles (vanilla town, mafia goon).

Walkies: You can move up or down the player list by one slot at night. This will resolve based on your position in the player order at the start of the night phase.

Win:
You win when the mafia is dead or Hectic concedes by saying "Boon just might be the greatest town player of all time" in bold.

Game thread here: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85656

Confirm:
Please confirm by responding with your alignment and role name
Miller
: Alignment cops will show you as aligned with the mafia.
Loyal and Disloyal modifiers will act as though you are aligned with the mafia.
Can you explain how you got a loyal result on Skitter when you would have gotten a disloyal on chk?

in what world is this for xtoxm to explain?
???

Because it’s not possible for him to have gotten a loyal result on her. So, then maybe your inverse theory is correct? Either way, Skittter’s claim doesn’t add up with this result. That much is obviously clear. But yes, I’d believe Xtoxm > Skitter here. Because I remember that she cleared my slot in MBoS, based off of anti associatives with scum!Mastina despite us hard defending her and trying to stop her flip.

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:18 am
by Flavor Leaf
so why is that xtoxm's problem not skitter's

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:26 am
by Venus Mars and Pluto
In post 6895, Flavor Leaf wrote:what does that have to with anything?
:roll:

Because those 4 roles are not automatically town roles and could be scum and 3 of them have either been claimed or flipped.

We know chk was town and I believe unwnd is as well. So of the following 3/4 roles (because we have no evidence of a vengeful), we have one town flip - chk and I believe 1 town claim - unwnd and then you’re left with 2 miller claims and I think it’s unlikely both are the same alignment. Tweetie has been confirmed to be aesetic 3 times now iirc? but Skitter should not have been confirmed loyal.
Any Alignment


Miller, Super Saint, Vigilante, Vengeful

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:27 am
by Venus Mars and Pluto
In post 6901, Flavor Leaf wrote:so why is that xtoxm's problem not skitter's
I am not even suggesting that, so stop fucking jumping on me, okay? :roll:

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:28 am
by Flavor Leaf
you actively have questioned Xtoxm, this has nothing to do with xtoxm answering, just skitter

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:28 am
by Flavor Leaf
and Krazy's 100% going to put Red Herrings in there, he just is

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:29 am
by Flavor Leaf
and if he didn't, then mafia had a vigilante who's had blocked kills

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:31 am
by Venus Mars and Pluto
In post 6897, Flavor Leaf wrote:what if a scum miller gets seen as town, essentially a godfather
Ahhh yeah, that would definitely explain a lot.

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:33 am
by Venus Mars and Pluto
In post 6904, Flavor Leaf wrote:you actively have questioned Xtoxm, this has nothing to do with xtoxm answering, just skitter
Did you not read ?

I obviously believe Xtoxm > Skitter and it’s ridiculous for you to imply anything to the contrary.

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:35 am
by Venus Mars and Pluto
In post 6906, Flavor Leaf wrote:and if he didn't, then mafia had a vigilante who's had blocked kills
How does a vig block kills?

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:38 am
by Venus Mars and Pluto
I swear FL if Skitter flips red here and you push me as her buddy I will fucking lose it on you!

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:46 am
by skitter30
I do not have that paragraph/sentence in my role pm
To the best of my knowledge loyal and disloyal should act as they normally would on me

Its fine if u dont believe that tho, and vote me out, so long as u listen to my reada afterwards, and do not expect all millers to have that ability post flip

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:48 am
by Morning Tweet
In post 4261, Morning Tweet wrote:Wording suggests that that loyal/disloyal will work normally on me, cause it only mentions that i screw with cop results
We probably ignored this bit up til now cuz i know at least i already addressed it. totally missed that part of chkflips pm tho

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:55 am
by Venus Mars and Pluto
In post 6911, skitter30 wrote:I do not have that paragraph/sentence in my role pm
To the best of my knowledge loyal and disloyal should act as they normally would on me

Its fine if u dont believe that tho, and vote me out, so long as u listen to my reada afterwards, and do not expect all millers to have that ability post flip
Miller
: Alignment cops will show you as aligned with the mafia.
Loyal and Disloyal modifiers will act as though you are aligned with the mafia.
But you’re both millers? It specifically says this about chk’s being miller?

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:58 am
by Morning Tweet
Don't have the loyal disloyal bit

Apparently Krazy had a reputation of red herrings about him, that would be my guess. Doesn't clear skitts but she is definitely not caught scum off of that particular bit

in fact the godfather stuff does seem a bit unlikely doesnt it

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:03 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 6909, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:
In post 6906, Flavor Leaf wrote:and if he didn't, then mafia had a vigilante who's had blocked kills
How does a vig block kills?
rolestopper....

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:04 am
by Flavor Leaf
that actually does check out a bit considering i have the same roles in games, but that are slightly different mutations of them

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:07 am
by Starcrossed
In post 6887, Flavor Leaf wrote:so if Skitter is a miller, the loyal shouldn't have gone through.

I believe Skitter is an inverse of this type of thing now, and that she gets hit from loyal as scum
or xtox is a scum mailman

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:09 am
by Flavor Leaf
that's also a possibility im considering.

we arent in a rush by any means.

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:09 am
by Flavor Leaf
just take our time, talk it through

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:11 am
by Venus Mars and Pluto
In post 6912, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 4261, Morning Tweet wrote:Wording suggests that that loyal/disloyal will work normally on me, cause it only mentions that i screw with cop results
We probably ignored this bit up til now cuz i know at least i already addressed it. totally missed that part of chkflips pm tho
The only result anyone has gotten on you was aesetic and I specifically asked Krazy about that. Iow, aesetic trumps everything else, including miller. So any loyal/disloyal/alignment cop etc. will get a “no results” result on you.

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:12 am
by Flavor Leaf
there's only one loyal/disloyal claim, and Chkflip's flip kinda implies that Xtoxm is likely town, and Xtoxm doesn't get results, for the last time....

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:38 am
by Venus Mars and Pluto
In post 6921, Flavor Leaf wrote:there's only one loyal/disloyal claim, and Chkflip's flip kinda implies that Xtoxm is likely town, and Xtoxm doesn't get results, for the last time....
Yeah, Xtoxm has to be mech confitown based on that.

I just rechecked Fire flip and he was a flavour cop and based off of my role pm, I think every player in this game has another player’s avatar in their spoiler text.

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:40 am
by Flavor Leaf
eh, scum could have a disloyal role, I guess, but that's tinfoil

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:44 am
by Venus Mars and Pluto
In post 2521, Krazy wrote:During the night, chkflip was killed! He was...

Spoiler:
Miller Even-Night Non-Adjacent Vigilante, Novice Complex Odd-Night VigilanteWelcome to Flavor Leaf vs. Hectic!

Image

You are a
Miller Even-Night Non-Adjacent Vigilante, Novice Complex Odd-Night Vigilante
.

Miller: Alignment cops will show you as aligned with the mafia. Loyal and Disloyal modifiers will act as though you are aligned with the mafia.

Even-Night Non-Adjacent Vigilante: On even-numbered nights, you may target a player that is not adjacent to you in the player list with a killing action.

Novice: You do not act on night 1.

Odd-Night Complex Vigilante: On odd nights, you may target a player with a killing action. This action will fail on vanilla roles (vanilla town, mafia goon).

Walkies: You can move up or down the player list by one slot at night. This will resolve based on your position in the player order at the start of the night phase.

Win:
You win when the mafia is dead or Hectic concedes by saying "Boon just might be the greatest town player of all time" in bold.

Game thread here: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85656

Confirm:
Please confirm by responding with your alignment and role name
@mod, what was chk’s flavour?