Tales of You (Endgame)

[Titan]

What do you the this game is investigative ps and roleblockers galore?

[Titan]

And I don't believe for one second someone who hydras with mollie jumps the fuck all over me for paranoia he can't understand. That shit was fake.

[CarbonFiber]

I mean come on does anyone really believe even night tracker who doubles as a cop who just so happened to track ap to Stalin when katsuki claimed to block him?

I mean seriously, when there's already other investigative tropes out there?

Come on.

So, you are saying they are scum with AP and planned it all together?

Their role does seem somewhat OP but is neutered by being only even night. But, man if they fooled me here, I'll eat a thousand hats, then nominate them for a scummy.

What are your latest thoughts on The Fox and The Hound btw?

Also, I think you said somewhere that you are not as sure about your read on Stalin but I don't remember why.

[Titan]

It's day four!

I still think they're town, but I wouldn't bet the game on it anymore.

[CarbonFiber]

Stalin or Fox?

[Titan]

Stalin is the only person all game I've thought was defo town.

Fox I just don't know.

[Titan]

I would really really love reasons besides anxiety attack that brodes is town. I don't mean to sound heartless because I believe that was real, and I hate to see people get that stressed, but it doesn't make it town or game related.

So, reasons other than that. Go!

Lalala!

[CarbonFiber]

Everyone's manipulating Tammy. It's a game wide adventure!

I don't see how jsu are so town it hurts. They've claimed they have to be read as town cuz breakdown, while ignoring other breakdowns. They've claimed you have to be town cuz sustainability while suspecting me. And when I point out the logical leap, des actually cites too many heads in which I got busted day one, did nothing, had two modkills, as evidence for my sustainability as scum while ignoring your wicked game.

Nope nope sorry not fucking buying it.

Bro fucking brags like a mother fucking bauss about his stellar fucking play, and I REFUSE REFUSE to believe he's not only a) reading me for such shit he should be ashamed of himself and b) deferring and actual "scum read" to someone else.

That's just nope nope sorry. Jsu is scum here.

Your scumgame

is

much better than mine and you said yourself that my posts were obviously scum in Wicked when viewed with knowledge of my affiliation. With regard to their read on me, they are picking up on things that no one else is bothering to look at with any real depth. I mentioned my miller cc earlier which as good as

confirms

me as town but I don't think anyone else (besides Nacho who I think is scum) has actually made an effort to realize how town it was (Rancid themselves did of course but there you go). I think Ffery did to a mild extent. PV did as well.

Fox (if they are town and I think they could be) have annoyingly been scumreading everyone that suspects them which makes it a nightmare to get a proper read.

Notty probably hasn't even read D1.

Penguin is completely ignoring it to push a ridiculously scum agenda.

AP of course has been spouting a theory about how I should expect to skate by which is a massive stretch.

Also, they are the only ones who accurately figured out that it would be impossible for me to play like this as scum. Pushing lynches with conviction D1 and D2 and spending such a ridiculous amount of time working with people and trying to organize the town, I just don't or can't do it as scum. And BRO-Desp being the only one to genuinely pin down why I am obviously town here - I liked the accuracy in their read.

Yeah, they are wrong about you, but I guess they can't read you? Comparing your scumgame to mine is rather modest on your part btw. I made a quick list of your scumgames and saw that almost all of the time, you survive and win the game and that's pretty damn good.

Spoiler: Tammy's amazing scumgames

1) Heterosexual Revolution Lovers Mafia -

Arthur was lynched, not you

2) Otherworld Mafia -

Screwed over by two scummy predecessors

3) Abarat: Days of Magic -

Committed suicide late game

4) NY 157 -

Lynched Day 4

5) American Revolution -

Survived and won

6) Rocky Horror Mafia Show -

Survived and won

7) TM 2012: Closed Normal -

Survived and won

8) Stacking the Deck -

Survived and won

9) The Red Wedding -

Investigated by cop

,

survived to lategame

10) Chosen Mafia -

Survived and won

11) Anything Goes Mafia -

Killed but screwed over by the traitor, would have won otherwise

12) Red Wine -

Survived and won

13) Too Many Heads -

Survived and won

14) Sleepy Hollow -

Recruited so don't count this

I color coded it. Blue is where something extraneous happens unrelated to the game. Green is where you survive and win. Red is where you are caught and lynched. The grand total of the number of times town lynches you without the aid of investigative results, traitors screwing you over, your lover getting lynched etc is: ONE time. Out of fourteen games. (And I'm glad I made this list because I'll bring it up whenever you downplay your scumgame. So, yeah, I wasn't bullshitting about the "Tammy has a spectacular scumgame" thing.

[Titan]

Spoiler: Falcon takes shit out of context to say Tammy's amazing scumgames

1) Heterosexual Revolution Lovers Mafia -

Arthur was lynched, not you

Except I was heavily suspected and was nearly lynched myself until I sounded *reasonable* and then they lynched Arthur anyway.

2) Otherworld Mafia -

Screwed over by two scummy predecessors

Yes, and I'm not good enough at scum to overcome that AND I got called out for being scummy immediately upon replacing in.

3) Abarat: Days of Magic -

Committed suicide late game

Yes, but I was obvious scum. Chamber knew I was scum and left me alive because he needed me to be. (He's still a bit bitter about this too.)

4) NY 157 -

Lynched Day 4

You mean after i did shit for nothing and more nothing at all?

5) American Revolution -

Survived and won

Got caught lying immediately upon replacing in. Nero misunderstood a message from the mods which confirmed my phantom role blocker and MoI did bad meta analysis that cleared me based off of partnership meta.

6) Rocky Horror Mafia Show -

Survived and won

Clusterfuck where I didn't do anything, and town imploded and I took advantage of that while doing nothing.

7) TM 2012: Closed Normal -

Survived and won

Town imploded. I bussed my godfather upon replacing in. There was a derp hammer and porochaz had cool dog move his vote to MoS in Lylo FROM ME which allowed me and Jason to hammer.

8) Stacking the Deck -

Survived and won

This is my best scum game onsite. I'm proud of this one, I tried really hard here.

9) The Red Wedding -

Investigated by cop

,

survived to lategame

Did a bit more than troll the game. Tried to bus my partner generic for days. Let myself be investigated so my partner would win in lylo.

10) Chosen Mafia -

Survived and won

I have no idea how this happened. Another game with modkills that fucked up the game.

11) Anything Goes Mafia -

Killed but screwed over by the traitor, would have won otherwise

I was obviously fucking scum here, and anyone who played this game with me and still even remotely suspects me is smoking crack. This goes for Bro who had me as obvscum here.

12) Red Wine -

Survived and won

I replaced out day one.

13) Too Many Heads -

Survived and won

Yeah, awesome scum game of mine. I didn't do shit in this game. Town imploded in the most toxic of environments.

14) Sleepy Hollow -

Recruited so don't count this

And got recruited because I was obvious fucking town day one by playing so fucking similar to!

I color coded it. Blue is where something extraneous happens unrelated to the game. Green is where you survive and win. Red is where you are caught and lynched. The grand total of the number of times town lynches you without the aid of investigative results, traitors screwing you over, your lover getting lynched etc is: ONE time. Out of fourteen games. (And I'm glad I made this list because I'll bring it up whenever you downplay your scumgame. So, yeah, I wasn't bullshitting about the "Tammy has a spectacular scumgame" thing.

[Titan]

So Falcon if my scum game is so amazing, why did you say you could catch me in 25 posts?

[Titan]

OH WAIT!

[Titan]

Eaglekit so you both admit Tammy is quite a competent player and good at scum faking their town meta but are willing to be fooled by it here


yeah ok no thanks

she's talking about mollie you fucking idiot,

tammy has NO SCUMGAME certainly not one that's capable of maintaining this level of vitriol.

The word of the person who knows how to read me best.

That's not even me saying it so doobie doobie doo.

[Titan]

I would really really love reasons besides anxiety attack that brodes is town. I don't mean to sound heartless because I believe that was real, and I hate to see people get that stressed, but it doesn't make it town or game related.

So, reasons other than that. Go!

Lalala!

STILL WAITING ON AN ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION! TIA!!!

[CarbonFiber]

"Catching" is different from lynching. I'm sure there were quite a few people who "caught" you in all those amazing scumgames. They just didn't succeed in getting you lynched because of your rhetorical abilities. I understand and appreciate your playstyle (or so I think). I wouldn't expect someone who doesn't to be able to read you as well? Also, I'm pretty sure I caught Nacho in less than 25 posts in more than one game anyways. Like here and fairly quickly here.

[CarbonFiber]

And I think Nacho has just as amazing a scumgame.

[CarbonFiber]

I would really really love reasons besides anxiety attack that brodes is town. I don't mean to sound heartless because I believe that was real, and I hate to see people get that stressed, but it doesn't make it town or game related.

So, reasons other than that. Go!

Lalala!

STILL WAITING ON AN ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION! TIA!!!

Part of my response was in that post I wrote up (you've skipped straight to the section about your scumgame, I see. I knew you would!) I'll get to the rest of it soon.

[Titan]

So, do you think Bro/des's scum game sucks?

Never mind des has also bragged that he's undefeated as scum with his brother as messiah complex. Also, never mind that Bro said that his scum game was good in the dead thread in Wicked.

And he's town because meltdown??!?!?!?!?!?!!?!??!?!?!?!!??!

I HATE THIS FUCKING GAME.

[Titan]

OMG

you do realize if you're town here and they're scum, they know you're fucking town?

OH MY FUCKING GODS.

I'm just gonna go get a lobotomy or something. Then maybe just maybe the lamest ass limp wristed cognitive dissonant arguments this game will make fucking sense.

And then maybe just maybe I'll be like oh yeah you you who can call me out for having paranoia.

THEY'RE FCUKING SCUM JEEZUZ FUCKING CHRIST IT'S SO GODDAMNED OBVIOUS.

THEY'RE GOING TO FAKE CLAIM A GUILTY ON SOMEONE TOMORROW IN LYLO AND LAUGH AS YOU FUCKS HAVE LET THEM SLIDE BY ON SHIT AND SHIT.

[CarbonFiber]

Did you read Fall of Gondolin? Desp just lurkaderped and let Tierce and Shadoweh carry the team. Then he did sort of the same thing in the Reckoning, didn't he?

It's not just meltdown though. Their reads on Mastin and Rancid made sense to me and resonated. Their pushes made sense. I don't know how best to explain this. Remember how you said D2 that Ffery was your strongest townread because she viewed the game in a similar lens as you? That's how I feel about BRO-Desp and

that's

the biggest reason I am townreading them. I was townreading Pie even harder for the same reason and my read here isn't as strong as my read on Pie but it is still pretty strong.

I HATE THIS GAME TOO. I wish we could both teleport into some other game and have more fun there.

[Titan]

Yeah, I thought that about Des too in the Reckoning, until Mollie was fucking town and he said in the dead thread he was just going to loltunnel mollie.

Bro/Des are not fucking town.

[CarbonFiber]

I don't know. I have a crazy paranoia they could be scum because I've never seen you so sure and wrong.

[Nachomamma8]

I have!

[CarbonFiber]

THEY'RE GOING TO FAKE CLAIM A GUILTY ON SOMEONE TOMORROW IN LYLO AND LAUGH AS YOU FUCKS HAVE LET THEM SLIDE BY ON SHIT AND SHIT.

This is what I was partly worried AP would do but then he'd have a hard time selling that scum let him view one of them.

Now that I think about it, I actually wonder why he would claim the role he claimed since scum-AP brags about fake-claiming guilities so IDK. If he is town, I'm not sure what a scumteam would look like.

Who do you think are their partnered with BRO-Desp though? I want to see your theory even if you are somewhat vague on scum/townreads at this point.

[CarbonFiber]

Nacho! Did you see the posts where I congratulate you?

[Titan]

I have!

I have too!

My best one?

I made the most delicious of cases. Begged and pleaded with the town to get my lynch. Told the town that when I died because I was right they needed to heed my words. Got my lynch. He flipped town.

I spent the next three games paralyzed on lynching him when he was scum in case I was wrong. ^ that case is the beginning of my supreme waffling. I've never been the same.

But (*^&%^&$^%&^&*&*^*( Nacho.

YOU DO SOMETHING BECAUSE I DON'T TRUST YOU EITHER.