Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

[Secret Tunnel]

That action resolution question is the key to the game I think

[Remilia Scarlet]

Scum decided to block a town bomb from going off on a pool of two townies, when said town bomb explicitly had both mafia so far in their 100% town list.

someone who wanted to get value on a claimed PR imo

[morph the cat]

Scum decided to block a town bomb from going off on a pool of two townies, when said town bomb explicitly had both mafia so far in their 100% town list.

someone who wanted to get value on a claimed PR imo

? Explain like I'm five.

[Bell]

Night 2:

Question #2: How does the removiser have priority but not activate and then get redirected?

[Remilia Scarlet]

i don't think there was any necessary guarantee they were going to flip what they claimed on D1 at that point and leaving it till later in the game could've potentially either clarified that for scum or muddied the waters for town

[zMuffinMan]

How does the removiser have priority but not activate and then get redirected?

think maybe youre confused with all the NAR talk

it's usually a method of resolving conflicts, but the only real conflict with a lightning rod would be if they were directly blocked (which is what is being claimed happened N1)

at least that's how i think about it

[morph the cat]

i don't think there was any necessary guarantee they were going to flip what they claimed on D1 at that point and leaving it till later in the game could've potentially either clarified that for scum or muddied the waters for town

I mean I don't think as mafia one expects town to lie about a claim that is provable like that?

Why not target april, who explicitly claimed provable PR during day one?

[morph the cat]

How does the removiser have priority but not activate and then get redirected?

think maybe youre confused with all the NAR talk

it's usually a method of resolving conflicts, but the only real conflict with a lightning rod would be if they were directly blocked (which is what is being claimed happened N1)

at least that's how i think about it

Right, NAR is a tiebreaker mechanism, not a hierarchy for ALL actions by default.

[Remilia Scarlet]

Why not target april, who explicitly claimed provable PR during day one?

well that i can't answer

[Bell]

I don't think a 1-shot role blocker Alien make sense together.

[Bell]

Or, however many shots they have.

[morph the cat]

I mean from that logic, if maid is town then the final mafia is in {tunnels, remelia}

Unless I can convince myself one of {Bell, Muffin} straight up doesn't target april N1 AND chooses to not let the town bomb boom town for a 3-dead-town on day two start.

[Secret Tunnel]

Bell the alien is the role blocker

[Bell]

Nevermind I think I understand it now.

The alien's ability is a role blocker.
There's no such thing as an escape velocity ability (all abilities get redirected to a lightning rod, but which one gets there first will depend on NAR).
N1: The first that got there was the alien so everything proceeded as normal.
N2: They were not targeted, everything got redirected to the lightning rod, but the lightning rod was then sent out to space first. So the NK, Neighborize, Protect all went poof and missed.
N3: Proceed as normal.

[morph the cat]

Notsci, is your vote still on maid in spirit?

[morph the cat]

Nevermind I think I understand it now.

The alien's ability is a role blocker.
There's no such thing as an escape velocity ability (all abilities get redirected to a lightning rod, but which one gets there first will depend on NAR).
N1: The first that got there was the alien so everything proceeded as normal.
N2: They were not targeted, everything got redirected to the lightning rod, but the lightning rod was then sent out to space first. So the NK, Neighborize,

Protect all went poof

and missed.
N3: Proceed as normal.

There was no N2 protect, the white mage could only act on non-consecutive nights.

[zMuffinMan]

i could see april being left unchecked if they thought it was pure bravado maybe, even if that's kind of a silly assumption

i dont really see scum not believing the bomb claim and targeting mariaboy anyway

muddying the waters isn't really a good explanation for it unless they were absolutely certain mariaboy is lying AND thought it was a more worthwhile use of that role than like... literally anyone else? i guess maybe if i squint i could see scum thinking mariaboy was a super powerful role that was fake-claiming to stay alive but didnt wanna seem like a threat? maybe? *shrug*

[Bell]

Straight up, I don't NK S_S N1.

Did I already say how in my notes PT or in thread that I had a very difficult time believing almost anyone in this game that is experienced let scum shoot S_S N1?

[zMuffinMan]

i mean i guess technically that is what happened kind of, if mariaboy is town

[Bell]

Didn't Maid said he protected you N2 morph?

[morph the cat]

Nevermind I think I understand it now.

The alien's ability is a role blocker.
There's no such thing as an escape velocity ability (all abilities get redirected to a lightning rod, but which one gets there first will depend on NAR).
N1: The first that got there was the alien so everything proceeded as normal.
N2: They were not targeted, everything got redirected to the lightning rod, but the lightning rod was then sent out to space first. So the NK, Neighborize,

Protect all went poof

and missed.
N3: Proceed as normal.

There was no N2 protect, the white mage could only act on non-consecutive nights.

there was a protect, though, just not a new target?

[Secret Tunnel]

No if my posts haven’t been indicative it’s looking like Bork

[morph the cat]

I think it's just within tunnel and remillia at this point, no?

[morph the cat]

Didn't Maid said he protected you N2 morph?

420 said he targeted us N1 for a 2-night protect.

[morph the cat]

Didn't Maid said he protected you N2 morph?

They claimed lightning rod, they didn't protect us. Our protection from night one was presumably still active but moot in town-mariaboy world.