Kublai Khan (2) - StrangerCoug, Panzerjager
StrangerCoug (1) - OhGodMyLife
OhGodMyLife (1) - Kublai Khan
Not Voting (3) - semioldguy, Green Crayons, sam.samhorn
I want comments on this.Panzerjager wrote:
But here's my hunch.
Look at the top of the page.
"Vote Count
StrangerCoug (2) - OhGodMyLife, Panzerjager
OhGodMyLife (2) - Kublai Khan, StrangerCoug
Not Voting (3) - semioldguy, Green Crayons, sam.samhorn "
Scum could have quick hammered here, cause I believe we are at LYLO. 3 scum 9 townies so right not is 3 to 4. Scum didn't quick hammer. So that means, one of the not voting crew is scum and the other 2 are voting. So either OGML and Myself are scum or Khan and Coug are scum. The scum can't be on seperate wagons because they'd still have quick hammered, so that rules out any combination between the wagons. Since I'm not scum..than Khan and SC are scum. Probably with Sam.Samhorn.
Your reasoning for grouping Kublai Khan and me (and therefore yourself with OhGodMyLife) is flawed. I've played two games, Mini 630 and Newbie 714, where the Mafia could have quicklynched with a townie at L-2, but elected not to. One of the Mafiates that chose not to quicklynch in Mini 630 knew that I wasn't going to attack him without a good reason (and thinking about it, setting up a quicklynch would likely have given me that reason), and I was online for too much of the last day of Newbie 714 for the Mafia to think they could get away with it.Panzerjager wrote:I want comments on this.Panzerjager wrote:
But here's my hunch.
Look at the top of the page.
"Vote Count
StrangerCoug (2) - OhGodMyLife, Panzerjager
OhGodMyLife (2) - Kublai Khan, StrangerCoug
Not Voting (3) - semioldguy, Green Crayons, sam.samhorn "
Scum could have quick hammered here, cause I believe we are at LYLO. 3 scum 9 townies so right not is 3 to 4. Scum didn't quick hammer. So that means, one of the not voting crew is scum and the other 2 are voting. So either OGML and Myself are scum or Khan and Coug are scum. The scum can't be on seperate wagons because they'd still have quick hammered, so that rules out any combination between the wagons. Since I'm not scum..than Khan and SC are scum. Probably with Sam.Samhorn.
Maybe you can explain this in further detail because, as it currently stands, this makes no sense to me.Pan wrote:The scum can't be on seperate wagons because they'd still have quick hammered, so that rules out any combination between the wagons.
Pan's logic at least makes sense to some degree. Why do you think your two anecdotal examples refute what would seem like a reasonable deduction to make about mafia play?Coug wrote:Your reasoning for grouping Kublai Khan and me (and therefore yourself with OhGodMyLife) is flawed. I've played two games, Mini 630 and Newbie 714, where the Mafia could have quicklynched with a townie at L-2, but elected not to. One of the Mafiates that chose not to quicklynch in Mini 630 knew that I wasn't going to attack him without a good reason (and thinking about it, setting up a quicklynch would likely have given me that reason), and I was online for too much of the last day of Newbie 714 for the Mafia to think they could get away with it.
I'm not sure what you want explained. Day one I was playing low to the ground, more or less, trying to stay just suspicious enough to be left alive. Since then I've been pretty pre-occupied by real life, as has shown in my actions (such as not even bothering to really do the math regarding vig self-shooting).GC wrote:OGML: How do you explain your play this game? It's been... pretty hands off, by and large.
Wow. Scum didn't fall for a hugely obvious gambit. Plus you revealed your trap after 4 posts and didn't wait for everyone to post. Thus making it useless. Except for the fact that the scum team (which you still may be a part of) will use it as "evidence" to frame me.Panzaerjager wrote:Scum could have quick hammered here, cause I believe we are at LYLO. 3 scum 9 townies so right not is 3 to 4. Scum didn't quick hammer. So that means, one of the not voting crew is scum and the other 2 are voting. So either OGML and Myself are scum or Khan and Coug are scum. The scum can't be on seperate wagons because they'd still have quick hammered, so that rules out any combination between the wagons. Since I'm not scum..than Khan and SC are scum. Probably with Sam.Samhorn.
I already explained in 662. Since the switch would happen even if I got NKed, then the best thing I could do was not to increase the amount of WIFOM in the game. The best use of the role is to state a switch early, then expose any liars.Green Crayons wrote:Khan: Why did you lie in the first place, again?
How many "investigative" roles does that make in this game again? Scum.OhGodMyLife wrote:Now that I'm outed as investigative and pitted in an either/or with Kublai I'll most certainly be the nightkill tonight, so I'd like to reiterate that the scumteam is Kublai Khan, StrangerCoug and sam.samhorn.
Because he implies the assumption that if the Mafia can quicklynch someone, they always will. I'm saying there may be a reason why scum's holding off quicklynching (perhaps making such an obvious move will kill the other player's town read on them? I'm not scum, so I don't know).Green Crayons wrote:Pan's logic at least makes sense to some degree. Why do you think your two anecdotal examples refute what would seem like a reasonable deduction to make about mafia play?Coug wrote:Your reasoning for grouping Kublai Khan and me (and therefore yourself with OhGodMyLife) is flawed. I've played two games, Mini 630 and Newbie 714, where the Mafia could have quicklynched with a townie at L-2, but elected not to. One of the Mafiates that chose not to quicklynch in Mini 630 knew that I wasn't going to attack him without a good reason (and thinking about it, setting up a quicklynch would likely have given me that reason), and I was online for too much of the last day of Newbie 714 for the Mafia to think they could get away with it.
Quoting as a case in point to my answer to Green Crayons's question.Kublai Khan wrote:Wow. Scum didn't fall for a hugely obvious gambit. Plus you revealed your trap after 4 posts and didn't wait for everyone to post. Thus making it useless. Except for the fact that the scum team (which you still may be a part of) will use it as "evidence" to frame me.
That's retarded. I'm assuming 3 scum 4 townies. A mislynch means game over. You and Sam's shitty defenses of Kublai are really telling here.StrangerCoug wrote:Because he implies the assumption that if the Mafia can quicklynch someone, they always will. I'm saying there may be a reason why scum's holding off quicklynching (perhaps making such an obvious move will kill the other player's town read on them? I'm not scum, so I don't know).Green Crayons wrote:Pan's logic at least makes sense to some degree. Why do you think your two anecdotal examples refute what would seem like a reasonable deduction to make about mafia play?Coug wrote:Your reasoning for grouping Kublai Khan and me (and therefore yourself with OhGodMyLife) is flawed. I've played two games, Mini 630 and Newbie 714, where the Mafia could have quicklynched with a townie at L-2, but elected not to. One of the Mafiates that chose not to quicklynch in Mini 630 knew that I wasn't going to attack him without a good reason (and thinking about it, setting up a quicklynch would likely have given me that reason), and I was online for too much of the last day of Newbie 714 for the Mafia to think they could get away with it.
Yet the paragraph after that in your post implies a pair:Panzerjager wrote:That's retarded. I'm assuming 3 scum 4 townies. A mislynch means game over.StrangerCoug wrote:Because he implies the assumption that if the Mafia can quicklynch someone, they always will. I'm saying there may be a reason why scum's holding off quicklynching (perhaps making such an obvious move will kill the other player's town read on them? I'm not scum, so I don't know).Green Crayons wrote:Pan's logic at least makes sense to some degree. Why do you think your two anecdotal examples refute what would seem like a reasonable deduction to make about mafia play?Coug wrote:Your reasoning for grouping Kublai Khan and me (and therefore yourself with OhGodMyLife) is flawed. I've played two games, Mini 630 and Newbie 714, where the Mafia could have quicklynched with a townie at L-2, but elected not to. One of the Mafiates that chose not to quicklynch in Mini 630 knew that I wasn't going to attack him without a good reason (and thinking about it, setting up a quicklynch would likely have given me that reason), and I was online for too much of the last day of Newbie 714 for the Mafia to think they could get away with it.
Comprised of = consisting only of.Panzerjager wrote:The only way that the scum team isn't comprised of either Myself and OGML or SC and Kublai Khan is if OGML and Khan are scum together.
I agree that it is possible for OhGodMyLife and Kublai Khan to be scum together, but I also agree that it's unlikely. I think you and OGML are the same alignment (leaning town based on recent events) and that KK is scum, but if all three of you are the scum, then I am going to shoot myself in the head for thinking scum wouldn't be so stupid as to act the way you've been.Panzerjager wrote:I wouldn't completely rule this out but it seems highly unlikely. Either way, I call for a Khan lynch.
Wouldn't that mean you targeted yourself then?OhGodMyLife wrote:sam:
Bus driver flips the places of two players, aka redirecting all other actions which target Player X to Player Y and vice versa. In this case, you and I were players X and Y, so when pan targeted me for weak tracking it got redirected to you, thus giving him the result of "Didn't go out last night," and when I targeted you to investigate it was redirected to me, so I stole from myself.