Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:34 pm
The less-subtle commentary:
The way you're treating your vote does not strike me as particularly town
The way you're treating your vote does not strike me as particularly town
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You were self-voting earlier. How is Voided's parked vote with an intent to hammer you worse than your self-vote? How is that Oversoul vote scummy, when his pending action is evident?In post 700, Parama wrote:The less-subtle commentary:
The way you're treating your vote does not strike me as particularly town
In post 697, Voidedmafia wrote:WHy can't I have it there? I already told you I'd behammeringyou otherwise.
That's actually hilarious.In post 702, Voidedmafia wrote:The only reason I'd move it right now is if an OS wagon sudeenly pops up.
P-EDIT: So you'd rather Ihammeryou, then?
...No, that's not even close. Actually, you're missing MY point.
OS is currently in no threat of a lynch. IF that happens I will unvote.In post 708, Parama wrote:A: Unvoting if he doesn't want to lynch Oversoul
I currently have no one else, and I need to find that out. Technically, I have Molla, but that is based on you being scum, so that's not really a scumread.In post 708, Parama wrote:B: Voting someone else he finds actually scummy while still declaring intent to hammer me
Given that I've said MULTIPLE TIMES BEFORE that I was gonna hammer you but was holding off in the interest of getting more reads, I'm not entirely sure where you're getting the idea that this is a sudden threat.In post 709, Parama wrote:In LITERALLY EVERY POST FOLLOWING, Voided says the word hammer
That's not a very well disguised threat, you know. I don't see how you could read it any other way
Why?BBmolla wrote:!vote Syryana
(1) - no? I'm pretty sure my main suspicions at the start of D2 were Untrod and Serra and I'm pretty sure that Parama's main suspicion was Shos. Untrod came later as suspicion for Parama.In post 674, The Rufflig wrote:@PimHel:I'm a bit confused about your attitude towards Parama. It seems to me that you didn't really feel that his hammer was scummy. In fact, you went scum hunting on those who felt Parama was scummy (1). It wasn't until Tierce replaced in and made his initial case on Parama that you saw anything scummy about him (2). However, once Tierce made his meta case, you decided that this case proved that Parama was town. However, you really haven't explained this well (I didn't click all the links - was there a particular one that I should have?) (3). Parama looks like he will be lynched today. Therefore, I was wondering why you hadn't really tried to save Parama since becoming convinced of his towniness. You haven't put much effort into explaining why Parama is town or particularly pushed for an alternative wagon (4).
This please. OverSoul, your large wall contained no reasons for the conclusions at the end. I'd rather not take the time to tear apart the conflicting points contained within it.
You've been putting off those reads for awhile now. You now have a partial reason why PimHel is picking on you, too.In post 541, serrapaladin wrote:I'll give in-depth reads first, when I find some time, though. I really don't know why PimHel is calling be out on that so much more than for example Voided or BB, but I'm happy to oblige.
I didn't insist that there are, but the odds are good. This comes from the test setups. I'll clean things up a bit and do some coloring.In post 676, Oversoul wrote:Why do you keep insisting that there are two scum teams?
In post 53, Kublai Khan wrote:mafia:Tracker, Gunsmith, Ascetic;sk:Soulshifter; town: Mirror, Jack of All Trades, Amnesiac (Doctor), Cop, Alien, Secret Role (Super-Saint), Inspector Gadget (Naive), Townie, Townie (Death Miller)
mafia:Mafioso (x2), Randomizer;sk:Mad Monk; town: Bodyguard, Night Watchman, Astrologer, Hot Nurse, Magistrate, Paranoid Suicide Bomber, Townie (x2), Secret Role (Radiant)
mafia:Cheater, Witch;mafia2:Delayer, Watcher; town: Mystery Role (Bodyguard), Voteblocker, Coward, Ascetic, Amnesiac (Disabler), Secret Admirer, Doctor (Quack), Townie (x2)
mafia:Mad Gunman, Mafioso;mafia2:Mafioso, Witch; town: Morpher, Doctor, Radioactive Friendly Neighbor, Reviver (False), Twin, Townie (x3), Townie (Death Miller)
mafia:Redirecter, Mafioso, Malfunctioning Inventor; mafia-ally: Inventor; town: Watcher, Role Cop (0%), Unlynchable, Eavesdropper, Twin, Cop (Paranoid), Mystery Role (Magnet), Townie, Retired Cop (Paranoid)
town: Cop, Watcher, Cheater, Retired Arsonist, Ascetic, Townie (x3), Radiant, Lovestruck Townie;wolf:Beta Werewolf, Vicious Werewolf, Alpha Werewolf
mafia:Roleblocker, Mafioso, Ascetic;sk:Devil's Advocate; town: Arms Dealer, MUP, Vigilante (SK Miller), Gunsmith, Secret Role (Ascetic), Angel (Fallen), Townie, Cop (Naive), Townie (Miller)
mafia:Godfather, One-Shot Redirecter;mafia2:Godfather, Watcher; town: Cop, Gunman with a Conscience, Malfunctioning Inventor, Computer Hacker, Retired Arsonist, Twin, Townie, Sibling (x2)
So, that is 18 test setups. 15 of 18 have multi-ball scum in them. I'd say the odds are good that there is more than 1 scum team. There is exactly 1 setup where there is 1 scum team and 1 vigilante.In post 183, Kublai Khan wrote:mafia:Mafioso, Paranoid Suicide Bomber;mafia2:Redirecter, Frame Artist; town: Cop, Reviver, Witch, Cheerleader, Magistrate, Unlynchable, Reviver (False), Secret Role (Ascetic), Townie (SK Miller)
mafia:Tracker, Mafioso;sk1:Death Arsonist;sk2:Serial Killer; town: Census Taker, Kill-Immune Townie, Darwin, Day Cop (Naive), Delayer, Unlynchable, Sleeper Bodyguard, Townie, Cop (Naive)
mafia:Mafioso, Eavesdropper;mafia2:Disabler, Watcher; town: Double Voter, Mystery Role (Mad Monk), Role Cop (0%), Retired Arsonist, Eavesdropper, Ascetic, Cop (Naive), Radiant, Townie (Death Miller)
mafia:Doctor, Mafioso, Hitman;sk:Poisoner; survivor: Ascetic; town: Anarchist, Reviver, Sleeper Vigilante, Sleeper Reviver, Voteblocker, Mystery Role (Magnet), Townie (x2)
mafia:Day Disabler, Cheater;mafia2:Mafioso, Ascetic; town: Double Voter, Cop, Gunsmith, Coward, Townie (x4), Skulker
mafia:Role Cop, Frame Artist; town: Turncoat, Cop, Faerie Godmother, Death Vigilante, Magistrate, Cop (Random), Townie (Miller), Sibling (x2);wolf:Beta Werewolf, Alpha Werewolf
Cult Leader;cult:mafia:Reflecter, Godfather; town: Mason (x2), Cop, Mutant, Amnesiac (Jackie Chan), Disabler, Super-Saint, Cheerleader, Doctor (Quack), Townie (SK Miller)
mafia:Role Cop, Mafioso;mafia2:Godfather, Spy; town: Cop, Mystery Role (Inventor), Doctor, Thief, Nervous Watchman, Super-Saint, Day Cop (Naive), Townie, Townie (Death Miller)
sk:Vampire; town: Vigilante, Jack of All Trades, Combat Medic, Magistrate, Townie (x3), Secret Role (Green Goo), Lovestruck Townie;wolf:Beta Werewolf, Vicious Werewolf, Alpha Werewolf
mafia:Doctor, Mugger, Secret Admirer; survivor1: Ascetic; survivor2: Witch; town: Double Voter, Bomb, Turquoise Goo, Delayer, Death Vigilante, Role Cop (0%), Mystery Role (Magnet), Lovestruck Townie
Raise your hands if you think vig Parama would kill Sharper. Go on. Go read his previous posts, and how his scumread on shos is much stronger than anything he says about Sharper.In post 165, Parama wrote:I'm so glad shos won't possibly survive the night
and if he does it should be a quicklynch d2