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RedCoyote

( 1 ) goodmorning

²

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Mr E Roll

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goodmorning

( 1 ) RedCoyote

GuyInFreezer

EspeciallyTheLies

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² , Mr E Roll , GuyInFreezer

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline is in

In post 698, GuyInFreezer wrote:All i know is 2 and MER aint scum together

how so? and who could we be scum with?

- f

In post 691, ² wrote:@GM and RC

Who do you think is the 2nd scum and why?

- f

In post 697, GuyInFreezer wrote:Also i want rc to answer 2's question.
MER you should too.

The most likely team is GM/RC. Individually they are the two weakest reads of mine left in the game. Reading them in ISO together it is amazing how little interaction they had together until today. Even after RC voted GM with nothing more than an emoticon as a case GM doesn’t comment on it. I think in the words of GM she was trying to hike in a certain direction to get the town to look at strong connections while she and her partner maintained a low profile with each other. Also I thought it was telling how after you gambited a cop investigation they both took an almost instant interest in each other, felt like scum looking to be on the right side of a cop investigation.

Less likely is GM/2. Once again reading them in ISO GM doesn’t have much interaction with 2 so the low profile point is present here also. Also I’m slightly concerned with 2’s voting as it relates to GM. Day one 2 sucks up the hammer for GM after saying they would refuse to compromise. On day two 2 again states a refusal to compromise but the counter wagon this day is GM. Looked like they really didn’t want to see a GM lynch. Which is what my questioning today was trying to ascertain.

In post 658, Mr E Roll wrote:

In post 652, ² wrote:You'll get lynched regardless of his flip.

- b

How do you feel about this now?

In post 689, Mr E Roll wrote:

In post 687, ² wrote:So are we lynching RC or GM?

- b

Who would you prefer? Do you think it makes a difference?

I’d liked f’s response to the first question not so much b’s. Neither one answered the second question.

The least likely remaining possibility is a RC/2 scum team. The main concern here is that they were each on both the town mislynch wagons. But even that almost makes it less likely that they are a team as mafia theory says that some but not all scum will be on any major bandwagon which again points towards GM being the partner.

Mr E Roll

I was under the impression that your questions are for buldermar, so I didn't reply.

I tried to do a complete reset on this game after A_Stone's flip. I don't think I was entirely successful because I wound up with nearly the same reads I had before, i.e, you, ETL/GiF, town, RC questionable after being one of my stronger town reads, and GM scum.

So, I still feel that GM is the best lynch option.

Re your second question, it probably doesn't make a difference. If GM is town and is right about you being scum, then way too many of my reads have been shit this game. And I am arrogant enough to think that's not the case.

- f

In post 702, Mr E Roll wrote: The most likely team is GM/RC.

What motivation would I have to roll on my partner so early in the Day?

In post 704, goodmorning wrote:What motivation would I have to roll on my partner so early in the Day?

So you do have a partner?

Fear. When we thought GIF was a cop we knew he didn’t have a second innocent since otherwise he could just claim and guarantee a win so you knew the investigation was either you or your partner so that’s how you framed the argument. Just because GIF pulled the rug out from under you doesn’t mean you could backpeddle without raising major suspicion.

GM why didn’t you vote me today?

You’re setting me up!

You know that there is a good chance that you are going to be lynched today when you flip scum it’s going to make it look like I’m your partner since you never really tried to lynch me even though I was your strongest scum read just about all game.

If RC gets lynched today no sweat off your back since you can just continue tunneling on me.

You voted RC figuring it helps him tomorrow if you die today and doesn’t hurt you at all tomorrow if he dies today. Motivation enough?

VOTE: Good Morning

You’ve been asking for this show down for days now is as good as time as any.

Just doing a few posts now to make sure everyone understands where things are:

One or both of RC and GM is scum, so we need to be lynching one of GM and RC today (if neither were scum, then the two scum would have hammered either of them).

- b

thank god you didn't hammer

In post 701, ² wrote:

In post 698, GuyInFreezer wrote:All i know is 2 and MER aint scum together

how so? and who could we be scum with?

- f

This is what I get for playing Mafia at 2 AM.

I meant GM and MER.

In post 708, GuyInFreezer wrote:thank god you didn't hammer

why?

- f

because the fact that you didn't hammer means that I read you correctly.

In post 639, Mac wrote:I am trusting you buldermar. don't let me down.

Mac, if you read this: I'm sorry I let you down, but I think f and I are THIS close to have solved this game now. Will post soon.

- b

Alright so I just looked through every conversation between GM and RC in this game and it doesn't add up. Firstly, there is a lot of akward conversations. For instance, at one point RC votes GM and GM doesn't react to it at all (very unlike GM because GM was reacting to all sorts of things at that time).

I think they went into this day with a plan of bussing each other, as evident by the huge walls by RC. If you look at all of RC's previous posts, they have been lazy as fuck. Suddently he got motivated - no wonder; they're quite close to winning.

GiF is town because it's very unlikely for scum to claim a PR at this point when it could easily be challenged and, in addition, he didn't even claim the PR with the most utility (he claimed JK when he could have claimed cop). Mr E is town as well. He has been wary of everyone throughout the entire game and his thoughts has been logical.

We take full responsibility if we lose this game, and yala yala, but we are absolutely convinced that the team has to be GM and RC.

VOTE: GM

In post 688, goodmorning wrote:I am incredibly confident about this so

Vote: RC

I think this is one of GM's rare sincere posts.

- b

Close, but no cigar.

oh well Mr E deserves it.

Welp

This is the second time I didn't listen to my gut instinct and cost the game q.q
(First time being 5p vengeful. Nacho hosted it.)

I wasn’t going to post until N did the lynch scene but I think RC already spoiled that so…

In post 716, ² wrote:oh well Mr E deserves it.

Thank you. But to be fair I think it’s only because I was willing and to be more active than some of the town players. I think if TNE, Rach, SOAT, ETL and to a lesser extent GM had been more present and active things could have gone much differently. I hope everybody who experienced misfortunes during the course of this game are seeing their circumstances improve.

In post 718, GuyInFreezer wrote:This is the second time I didn't listen to my gut instinct and cost the game q.q

Don’t blame yourself too much you didn’t even vote. But you are responsible in that you didn’t even share what your gut feelings were. I think it was still possible to persuade 2 that it was a RC/MER scum team but it was going to take some effort.

Anyhow I didn’t think this was the most interesting or active game but I did enjoy the player list and would definitely play with you all again. I hope you all feel the same way.

RC it was great being your partner and you did exactly what you said you would you played it cool.

And finally thanks for modding N. I thought you didn’t a flawless job.

GIF all kidding aside was the hammer accidental?

I was serious when I said it was accidental.

Re: gut feeling
I tend to not post stuff that I'm not sure of. I really need to get rid of that habit.

Anyway, gg folks.

In post 719, Mr E Roll wrote:I wasn’t going to post until N did the lynch scene but I think RC already spoiled that so…

In post 716, ² wrote:oh well Mr E deserves it.

Thank you. But to be fair I think it’s only because I was willing and

able

to be more active than some of the town players. I think if TNE, Rach, SOAT, ETL and to a lesser extent GM had been more present and active things could have gone much differently. I hope everybody who experienced misfortunes during the course of this game are seeing their circumstances improve.

In post 718, GuyInFreezer wrote:This is the second time I didn't listen to my gut instinct and cost the game q.q

Don’t blame yourself too much you didn’t even vote. But you are responsible in that you didn’t even share what your gut feelings were. I think it was still possible to persuade 2 that it was a RC/MER scum team but it was going to take some effort.

Anyhow I didn’t think this was the most interesting or active game but I did enjoy the player list and would definitely play with you all again. I hope you all feel the same way.

RC it was great being your partner and you did exactly what you said you would you played it cool.

And finally thanks for modding N. I thought you didn’t a flawless job.

I'd be happy to read the scum QT if possible. Congratulations on the win to both of you =)

Also thank you N for being the mod of this game!

Thank you all for playing.

- b